Israeli settlers

[AFM22]

What you said is that current actions are more likely to produce another Boston Marathon bomber than "informants" (the wrong word, but we're dealing with you, so let's go with it) ... and then you meme'd "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions" - a snarky reference to "this is your fault because of what you did" - i.e., you deserve it.

Do you dispute this? Do you not understand words?

So, we've established that you said, in the event of a future Boston Marathon bomber, that eventuality would be our fault - a consequence of our actions. We will have deserved it.

Now, that logic would extend to the PAST Boston Marathon bomber ... otherwise, why would you even think of that event while stating this? In your opinion, our actions led to the past Boston Marathon bomber ... therefore our actions may lead to the next Boston Marathon bomber. Or is your contention that, while the past bombing was totes not our fault, that you still think the same type of thing might happen again, and, this time, it would be our fault? That, somehow, in the past, the snarky "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions" wouldn't apply to the same hypothesized event that, in the future, it will apply to? So, if the future Boston Marathon bombing, and the past Marathon bombing were our fault, in your eyes, so would be 9/11. We deserved it, according to you. A terrorist attack on our soil, based on the same generalized grievances, by the same generalized ideology. In your assessment, why wouldn't we deserve it?

Hence the reason I brought up the innocent victim of rape. Imagine, for a second, that a female family member or other loved one, was walking down the street, minding her own business, and she was raped. Now, imagine the usual a-holes came out and said things like "why was she there?" "why was she dressed like that?" ... and then some utterly inhuman deplorable POS came out and said "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of our own actions." and if people acted shocked at their callousness, he tried to say "what? I didn't say she deserved it! Show me, verbatim where I said she deserved it." You'd want to throat-punch that guy in perpetuity for being such a complete waste of matter.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Cool ... let's condemn these violent folks ... and then get back to condemning the various Muslim factions that have perpetrated far worse violent acts, over decades, on not just Israelis, but Americans, as well.

Credit to the Muslim and Palestinian information agents who are putting out enough anti-Israel propaganda that they're probably developing the next Boston marathon bombers, or even 9/11 WTC dive-bombers from within our own geographic boundaries. They saw how easily our populace could be duped into supporting an absolute idiot criminal like Trump, and knew we could easily be duped into turning on Israel, and America, just as easily.

Lot's of knee-jerk supporters here (and across America) of pretty much anything Israel does.

By contrast, nobody here and hardly any in America support Islamist terrorism.

 

[fskillet]

No, I'm explaining that their actions, while not themselves justifiable, do not change the overarching narrative that they are, in fact, the attacked, the abused and the hunted.




That's thuper. Now apply that to what set this off - the October 7th attacks where Hamas conducted a sneak attack that resulted in the death, injury, rape, kidnapping, etc. of thousands of innocent Israelis ... then ran and hid amongst the "general public" of the Gaza Strip, whose inhabitants helped hide them, or did nothing to "out" them so they could be held accountable.

Yes, and the innocent children and others forcibly under Hamas rule being shot, bombed, and beaten are now “the attacked, abused, and the hunted.”

Oct 7 was tragic - however that doesn’t give Israel carte blanche to commit war crimes on women and children.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Ah, yes ... are you with Hasan Piker in proclaiming that the US deserved 9/11?

I bet the Oct. 7th attacks on Israel were Israel's fault, as well, right?

Something something chickens something roost....

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

You don't know what whataboutism means.

Whereas you seem to have trouble with "consequences of their actions."

 

[Moogy]

Yes, and the innocent children and others forcibly under Hamas rule being shot, bombed, and beaten are now “the attacked, abused, and the hunted.”

Oct 7 was tragic - however that doesn’t give Israel carte blanche to commit war crimes on women and children.

How do you suppose they get to those Hamas oppressors, who the general Palestinian public is apparently powerless to oppose, when they're hiding amongst the "every day people," still fully intent on destroying Israel the second they get the chance to do so, as they believe it is their religious duty to exterminate the Jews? They just have to let them go, and wait for the next murdering and raping spree, at which time AFM will say "well well well if it isn't the consequences of their own actions" and WWJD will say "chickens coming home to roost" ... and Israel will have to sit there, saying "welp, you got us good. And we can't get you back because you're hiding among the general populace, you sly dogs. Hey, while we're burying our dead, I was thinking ... you want your own country, even though you're going to continue trying to exterminate us?"

 

[Moral]

Just to clear something up, Hamas isn't in charge in West Bank the Palestinian Authority is.

 

[fskillet]

How do you suppose they get to those Hamas oppressors, who the general Palestinian public is apparently powerless to oppose, when they're hiding amongst the "every day people," still fully intent on destroying Israel the second they get the chance to do so, as they believe it is their religious duty to exterminate the Jews? They just have to let them go, and wait for the next murdering and raping spree, at which time AFM will say "well well well if it isn't the consequences of their own actions" and WWJD will say "chickens coming home to roost" ... and Israel will have to sit there, saying "welp, you got us good. And we can't get you back because you're hiding among the general populace, you sly dogs. Hey, while we're burying our dead, I was thinking ... you want your own country, even though you're going to continue trying to exterminate us?"

You’re telling me the greatest intelligence operation in the world, bankrolled in large part by the U.S., who has been able to conduct innumerable political and military assassinations across the planet for 60+ years without managing to indiscriminately kill women and children is just incapable of doing that in this one instance?

Idk man. I guess Hamas leaders are just savvier and have better resources than everyone else.

 

[Moral]

You’re telling me the greatest intelligence operation in the world, bankrolled in large part by the U.S., who has been able to conduct innumerable political and military assassinations across the planet for 60+ years without managing to indiscriminately kill women and children is just incapable of doing that in this one instance?

Idk man. I guess Hamas leaders are just savvier and have better resources than everyone else.

Hamas losing control of 70% of Gaza is all part of their secret plan.

 

[AFM22]

Hamas losing control of 70% of Gaza is all part of their secret plan.

Imagine the number if the toddler enlisted.

 

[Moral]

 

[Moogy]

You’re telling me the greatest intelligence operation in the world, bankrolled in large part by the U.S., who has been able to conduct innumerable political and military assassinations across the planet for 60+ years without managing to indiscriminately kill women and children is just incapable of doing that in this one instance?

Idk man. I guess Hamas leaders are just savvier and have better resources than everyone else.

Dang, so Israel is capable of ending all this senseless violence, and living in peace and harmony, in quick and relatively painless, inexpensive fashion, and, instead, they chose to live under the constant threat of extinction, sacrificing their lives and their well-being in the process? Why, if I didn't know better, it's almost like you built them up into this super-powered financially savvy sneaky animal that needs to be corralled and/or eliminated.

 

[JayDeeSC]

Lot's of knee-jerk supporters here (and across America) of pretty much anything Israel does.

By contrast, nobody here and hardly any in America support Islamist terrorism.

I don't disagree, but there are lots of knee-jerk opponents to pretty much anything they do, too.

 

[fskillet]

Dang, so Israel is capable of ending all this senseless violence, and living in peace and harmony, in quick and relatively painless, inexpensive fashion, and, instead, they chose to live under the constant threat of extinction, sacrificing their lives and their well-being in the process? Why, if I didn't know better, it's almost like you built them up into this super-powered financially savvy sneaky animal that needs to be corralled and/or eliminated.

When in doubt, it’s always good to start flirting with calling whoever you’re arguing with antisemitic.

I don’t know the reasons why Israel seemingly can’t refrain from killing innocent women and children, nor why you seem to be fine with it, but I would expect them to be able to engage in warfare without committing war crimes… especially given their historical prowess with targeted eliminations.

I think I just expect better from superpowers, especially ones who have no historical pattern of killing innocent people…except with this one adversary.

 

[Moogy]

When in doubt, it’s always good to start flirting with calling whoever you’re arguing with antisemitic.

I don’t know the reasons why Israel seemingly can’t refrain from killing innocent women and children, nor why you seem to be fine with it, but I would expect them to be able to engage in warfare without committing war crimes… especially given their historical prowess with targeted eliminations.

I think I just expect better from superpowers, especially ones who have no historical pattern of killing innocent people…except with this one adversary.

Woah! Now who is flirting with such a thing? Moi? Show me where I said it. Quote me! (is that how it's done, AFM?)

You laid it out there. Israel is the most high-tech, advanced operation out there, capable of killing anyone, anywhere, at any time ... and were able to get all this funded by another party ... so why aren't they out there just doing that, amirite? Boom! Boom! Pow! and, within seconds, all those who oppose them should be laid to waste and they can go about their business in bliss, no? What kind of awful things would have all this ... for free, basically (boy, are they good with money, or what?) ... yet allow their own people to suffer endlessly, and cause so much suffering to be hoist onto the backs of others. Animals. Sneaky, smart animals, no?

 

[fskillet]

Woah! Now who is flirting with such a thing? Moi? Show me where I said it. Quote me! (is that how it's done, AFM?)

You laid it out there. Israel is the most high-tech, advanced operation out there, capable of killing anyone, anywhere, at any time ... and were able to get all this funded by another party ... so why aren't they out there just doing that, amirite? Boom! Boom! Pow! and, within seconds, all those who oppose them should be laid to waste and they can go about their business in bliss, no? What kind of awful things would have all this ... for free, basically (boy, are they good with money, or what?) ... yet allow their own people to suffer endlessly, and cause so much suffering to be hoist onto the backs of others. Animals. Sneaky, smart animals, no?

Alright cool good talking with you

 

[baltimorened]

Evil and Unjustified.

Even worse because of the customary support or looking the other way by Israeli police and military.

I have a first hand story from a trip I made to Israel, and the opportunity to meet with members of the Palestinian government...But it was in the late 80s, so definitely stale...I'm reluctant to post it, because it is stale, but I think the underlying thoughts might be similar today. If you're interested, I'll post it.

 

[stillh8unlv]

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has no solution and that's the problem, IMO..

Religious zealots will bring about end times whether we want it or not. Hitchens was right.

 

[Moogy]

Alright cool good talking with you

You too. Heil Al-Sayed, my brother.

Oh, I almost forgot, based on the comments at the end of your previous post … so now Israel is a superpower? Boy, such a small country, able to get that much power. They really band together and consolidate power, don’t they? Where have I heard that characterization before? My memory fails me, unfortunately.

But you bring up an excellent point … it’s so weird that they don’ go around wielding this power, super or otherwise, and killing people .. except this one foe. You might think, oh, maybe they just don’t like them some Muslims … but, then, there are plenty of Muslim countries that they don’t ever fight with at all. It’s almost like, they’re just trying to survive while being constantly threatened with extermination, and they’re fighting simply for their existence amongst folks who don’t want them to exist. But, yeah, let’s support the terrorists and turn on the Jews. That seems the prudent move. It’s not like they would ever lie or propagandize to try to sway international opinion. They’ve never done that. Just ask the UN, who seems totes impartial throughout this conflict.

 

[fskillet]

You too. Heil Al-Sayed, my brother.

Oh, I almost forgot, based on the comments at the end of your previous post … so now Israel is a superpower? Boy, such a small country, able to get that much power. They really band together and consolidate power, don’t they? Where have I heard that characterization before? My memory fails me, unfortunately.

But you bring up an excellent point … it’s so weird that they don’ go around wielding this power, super or otherwise, and killing people .. except this one foe. You might think, oh, maybe they just don’t like them some Muslims … but, then, there are plenty of Muslim countries that they don’t ever fight with at all. It’s almost like, they’re just trying to survive while being constantly threatened with extermination, and they’re fighting simply for their existence amongst folks who don’t want them to exist. But, yeah, let’s support the terrorists and turn on the Jews. That seems the prudent move. It’s not like they would ever lie or propagandize to try to sway international opinion. They’ve never done that. Just ask the UN, who seems totes impartial throughout this conflict.

That’s cool man. I have no intention to continue carrying on this discussion with someone so intent on responding in bad faith.

 

[Moogy]

That’s cool man. I have no intention to continue carrying on this discussion with someone so intent on responding in bad faith.

Yeah, yeah ... that's cool, man. Sort of like someone who is promoting all the classical tropes, while relying on, and expressing, irrational characterizations in order to justify his beliefs, and when asked to explain how these characterizations don't seem to align with how things are happening, in reality, he just bows out and says "that's cool, man."

 

[Ktrain1969]

JHP > MOOGY. AINEC.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

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[Moral]

UK, France among 12 states backing sanctions on illegal Israeli settlements | Occupied West Bank News | Al Jazeera

 

[Rahskie]

I don't get the Israel hatred. For much of their history and specifically in the last 30 years, they have been threatened by Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran with being wiped out.....constantly. Not a here or there threat, but a constant mission and actions taken to eliminate them from the planet.

They have organizations on their borders that openly say they want to eliminate them, have launched thousands of rockets at their cities, have carried out suicide bombings, shootings, kidnappings, and in 2023 conducted the deadliest attack in Israeli history.

1988 Hamas Charter Stated:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it."
The charter described the goal of liberating all of Palestine and rejected permanent peace with Israel, emphasizing jihad as the means to achieve its objectives

Post 2023 Attack:
"We will repeat the October 7 attack time and again until Israel is annihilated." This quote is from Hamas political bureau member Ghazi Hamad.
In the same interview, he stated that Israel "has no place on our land" and confirmed that Hamas sought its removal.

What exactly are they supposed to do, ignore that?

I get that some think the response is tough, I get that there are Palestinian civilians in Gaza, but Israel had to build the freaking Iron Dome to protect themselves from rocket fire from Gaza (literally 10's of thousands since 2021).

They didn't go in an wipe out Gaza, they built a military defense system. THEN, they were invaded (cause the rockets weren't getting the job done) and slaughtered in the streets.

At some point, enough is enough in my opinion. This whole genocide label being put on Israel boggles my mind when in fact Hamas and others have ACTIVELY been trying to wipe out all the Jews (the actual definition of genocide) and when Israel finally decides that they HAVE to do something or else they may be wiped out, THEY are accused of genocide.

Help me understand?????

 

[THE_DEVIL]

I don't get the Israel hatred. For much of their history and specifically in the last 30 years, they have been threatened by Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran with being wiped out.....constantly. Not a here or there threat, but a constant mission and actions taken to eliminate them from the planet.

They have organizations on their borders that openly say they want to eliminate them, have launched thousands of rockets at their cities, have carried out suicide bombings, shootings, kidnappings, and in 2023 conducted the deadliest attack in Israeli history.

1988 Hamas Charter Stated:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it."
The charter described the goal of liberating all of Palestine and rejected permanent peace with Israel, emphasizing jihad as the means to achieve its objectives

Post 2023 Attack:
"We will repeat the October 7 attack time and again until Israel is annihilated." This quote is from Hamas political bureau member Ghazi Hamad.
In the same interview, he stated that Israel "has no place on our land" and confirmed that Hamas sought its removal.

What exactly are they supposed to do, ignore that?

I get that some think the response is tough, I get that there are Palestinian civilians in Gaza, but Israel had to build the freaking Iron Dome to protect themselves from rocket fire from Gaza (literally 10's of thousands since 2021).

They didn't go in an wipe out Gaza, they built a military defense system. THEN, they were invaded (cause the rockets weren't getting the job done) and slaughtered in the streets.

At some point, enough is enough in my opinion. This whole genocide label being put on Israel boggles my mind when in fact Hamas and others have ACTIVELY been trying to wipe out all the Jews (the actual definition of genocide) and when Israel finally decides that they HAVE to do something or else they may be wiped out, THEY are accused of genocide.

Help me understand?????

 

[firegiver]

yah I think the solution is we should move Israel to Venezeula and call it a day.

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

I don't get the Israel hatred. For much of their history and specifically in the last 30 years, they have been threatened by Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran with being wiped out.....constantly. Not a here or there threat, but a constant mission and actions taken to eliminate them from the planet.

They have organizations on their borders that openly say they want to eliminate them, have launched thousands of rockets at their cities, have carried out suicide bombings, shootings, kidnappings, and in 2023 conducted the deadliest attack in Israeli history.

1988 Hamas Charter Stated:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it."
The charter described the goal of liberating all of Palestine and rejected permanent peace with Israel, emphasizing jihad as the means to achieve its objectives

Post 2023 Attack:
"We will repeat the October 7 attack time and again until Israel is annihilated." This quote is from Hamas political bureau member Ghazi Hamad.
In the same interview, he stated that Israel "has no place on our land" and confirmed that Hamas sought its removal.

What exactly are they supposed to do, ignore that?

I get that some think the response is tough, I get that there are Palestinian civilians in Gaza, but Israel had to build the freaking Iron Dome to protect themselves from rocket fire from Gaza (literally 10's of thousands since 2021).

They didn't go in an wipe out Gaza, they built a military defense system. THEN, they were invaded (cause the rockets weren't getting the job done) and slaughtered in the streets.

At some point, enough is enough in my opinion. This whole genocide label being put on Israel boggles my mind when in fact Hamas and others have ACTIVELY been trying to wipe out all the Jews (the actual definition of genocide) and when Israel finally decides that they HAVE to do something or else they may be wiped out, THEY are accused of genocide.

Help me understand?????

Satanayhu knew in advance about the Oct 7th attacks and he did nothing. He also orchestrated the funding of Hamas for years

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Morning Joey vs Dumas Donnie Deutsch

 

[firegiver]

Morning Joey vs Dumas Donnie Deutsch

When I learned about Bibi funding Hamas, I learned it from a palestinian comedian. I thought, no way is that true. Looked into it and yep. He funded Hamas for years so that they would remain in power, because they were the boogey man he needed to froth up his base to support humanitarian atrocities. Because this polish man, thinks his purpose in life, is to exterminate those people and seize their land. He's doing it right now in front of our eyes.
But no one can call it a genocide. Nope, thats anti-semitic.

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

When I learned about Bibi funding Hamas, I learned it from a palestinian comedian. I thought, no way is that true. Looked into it and yep. He funded Hamas for years so that they would remain in power, because they were the boogey man he needed to froth up his base to support humanitarian atrocities. Because this polish man, thinks his purpose in life, is to exterminate those people and seize their land. He's doing it right now in front of our eyes.
But no one can call it a genocide. Nope, thats anti-semitic.

And, we’re funding it

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Family of 4 killed yesterday

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[RockyMtNole]

I believe Ben-Gvir manages Israel’s prisons

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[TC_Nole_OX]

Hillary sux but she's mostly correct here. The opposition party is almost as bad as Satanayhu




In this clip, Hillary Clinton floats the possibility that Netanyahu deliberately allowed the 10/7 attack to go forward so that he could capitalize on it and strengthen his political position. Given all the evidence we have, it is very difficult to escape that conclusion. That even Hillary Clinton is willing to voice it is rather extraordinary.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[THE_DEVIL]