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I’ll do you one better:
    • In Matthew 18:6, Jesus states, "If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea”

Explain how this is about sexuality?

Also, explain how any of the actions of this admin to eliminate funding for education,Medicaid,mental health care, etc is caring for "These Little Ones"

Listen, different denominations have different beliefs and teaching a about sexuality. They can all support their beliefs based on the Bible and their own discernment. I don't know a single Christian Denomination who doesn't believe in caring for the poor and the weak, loving your neighbor, or caring for children.

It feels like you are weighing sins in your mind that support your beliefs.

I am not suggesting that God makes mistakes, I am suggesting we don't know God's plan. I can't explain why God would make animals with birth defects, or why he would allow the atrocities we see all over the planet.

What I do know is the main teachings of Jesus all were around loving each other and taking care of the least of us. That's what I try to do daily. I fail all the time, but I'm still trying.
 

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Explain how this is about sexuality?

Also, explain how any of the actions of this admin to eliminate funding for education,Medicaid,mental health care, etc is caring for "These Little Ones"

Listen, different denominations have different beliefs and teaching a about sexuality. They can all support their beliefs based on the Bible and their own discernment. I don't know a single Christian Denomination who doesn't believe in caring for the poor and the weak, loving your neighbor, or caring for children.

It feels like you are weighing sins in your mind that support your beliefs.

I am not suggesting that God makes mistakes, I am suggesting we don't know God's plan. I can't explain why God would make animals with birth defects, or why he would allow the atrocities we see all over the planet.

What I do know is the main teachings of Jesus all were around loving each other and taking care of the least of us. That's what I try to do daily. I fail all the time, but I'm still trying.
Again, you’re conflating a generic Christian ideals with a very specific ideology. No christian that has any understanding of Christ or the Bible is going to agree with transitioning a young boy to to a young girl. Period. You can try and spin it but it’s just your way of affirming your beliefs. Do you think pedophiles should be loved on and coddled?

And you absolutely are saying God made a mistake if you’re affirming that trans is a real thing, you are 100% saying that God messed up. Jesus also went into the temple and wrecked the tax collectors, you’re trying to make him into a weak man when that’s not accurate. Why didn’t he go and love on the tax collectors? I’ll tell you, tax collectors were seen as collaborators of the oppressive Romans and he was standing up to them. Just like we are now. You are the ones demanding everyone comply. Not the other way. Remember that.
 

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Some more of the good, wholesome live and let live crowd. This is a video of tranny supporters protesting near the school a tranny just shot up and murdered some children. What could they possibly be protesting? I guess we are supposed to just sit on our hands while they violently attack us, live and let live.

The interesting part of this video is there was no trans flag shown, which is why it's important to get past a LibsofTikTok headline so you won't suffer a myocardial infarction about things that didn't happen.
 
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Here’s a passage telling us to trust God and not lean on human understanding. That wrong too?
Proverbs 3:5

5Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight. a
Yoshi. Believe what you want. But from this perspective it’s not Christian. It’s a mashup of your personal beliefs sprinkled in with Christian ideas where it’s convenient and removed where it’s not. That’s probably why you keep getting asked what church you go to.
 

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Yoshi. Believe what you want. But from this perspective it’s not Christian. It’s a mashup of your personal beliefs sprinkled in with Christian ideas where it’s convenient and removed where it’s not. That’s probably why you keep getting asked what church you go to.

I am an Episcopalian. Again, we really don't need to argue about this, but here are my basic thoughts about this discussion.

1. I don't support permanent sex change operations on children, full stop. I never have, and neither does any person I know, or any poster on this board. It's also extremely rare and not a common thing. I don't have any issues with it for adultsas a Christian, but even more, it's not my right to tell an adult what they can or can't do with their body.

2. I didn't say God made a mistake, I said we don't know God's mind or why he does the things he does. That doesn't mean that there aren't very clear instances in nature where we see examples of homosexuality, transexuality, and simple birth defects. Are those a mistake, or is that part of God's plan? Is a child born With Downs Syndrome or with a heart defect an example of a mistake of God's.

3. Again, Jesus never addressed or discussed sexuality, and yet this has become a huge issue with the Christian right, why? Why aren't we focused on the things Jesus did ask us to do?

Jesus revealed the “new commandment” in John 13:34–35, while speaking to His disciples on the night He was betrayed by Judas. He had watched His traitorous disciple leave the dinner table to complete the evil deed. After Judas was gone, Jesus spoke to the remaining eleven: “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
 

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I am an Episcopalian. Again, we really don't need to argue about this, but here are my basic thoughts about this discussion.

1. I don't support permanent sex change operations on children, full stop. I never have, and neither does any person I know, or any poster on this board. It's also extremely rare and not a common thing. I don't have any issues with it for adultsas a Christian, but even more, it's not my right to tell an adult what they can or can't do with their body.

2. I didn't say God made a mistake, I said we don't know God's mind or why he does the things he does. That doesn't mean that there aren't very clear instances in nature where we see examples of homosexuality, transexuality, and simple birth defects. Are those a mistake, or is that part of God's plan? Is a child born With Downs Syndrome or with a heart defect an example of a mistake of God's.

3. Again, Jesus never addressed or discussed sexuality, and yet this has become a huge issue with the Christian right, why? Why aren't we focused on the things Jesus did ask us to do?

Jesus revealed the “new commandment” in John 13:34–35, while speaking to His disciples on the night He was betrayed by Judas. He had watched His traitorous disciple leave the dinner table to complete the evil deed. After Judas was gone, Jesus spoke to the remaining eleven: “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
If this statement is true and I assume you believe it to be true:

1. I don't support permanent sex change operations on children, full stop.

How do justify and rationalize voting for people that support that to the fullest extent it can be? To the point of bringing in drag queens to elementary schools. To the point of not telling parents their children are thinking about this stuff. Again you say you don’t support that but you vote that way. That’s indirectly supporting it. You have one vote, claim your Christian, yet use that vote to put people in power that want to mutilate kids. The antithesis of Christ. What kind of mental gymnastics does that require on your part? You keep saying it’s not that many, one life is too many. Full stop. And there are thousands of “transitioned’ children killing themselves and sharing their stories of the horrors of this. But you justify it in your mind bc it’s just a few people. That’s not a Christian mindset. Sorry man it’s just not.

Jesus said protect the children. These policies endanger them drastically.
 

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If this statement is true and I assume you believe it to be true:

1. I don't support permanent sex change operations on children, full stop.

How do justify and rationalize voting for people that support that to the fullest extent it can be? To the point of bringing in drag queens to elementary schools. To the point of not telling parents their children are thinking about this stuff. Again you say you don’t support that but you vote that way. That’s indirectly supporting it. You have one vote, claim your Christian, yet use that vote to put people in power that want to mutilate kids. The antithesis of Christ. What kind of mental gymnastics does that require on your part? You keep saying it’s not that many, one life is too many. Full stop. And there are thousands of “transitioned’ children killing themselves and sharing their stories of the horrors of this. But you justify it in your mind bc it’s just a few people. That’s not a Christian mindset. Sorry man it’s just not.

I don't vote based on a single issue, particularly when it's only favored by the very far Left, isn't really an issue that effects me or many people at all. There are not thousands of transitioned children who are killing themselves. You have been angered by a phantom issue. This isn't reality.

I would argue that you and other Christians who are supporting Donald Trump are supporting policies that are completely antithetical to Christian beliefs and the words of Christ himself.

Again, there are many reasons for why I vote for the candidates I vote for. I want to know they are competent, I want to know that they are people who are qualified to do the job, and have the leadership skills required to do the job. I also want my leaders to be able to articulate their positions and to be willing and able to compromise. I also want my politicians to have a moral compass, whatever that may look like. I don't vote for people based on whether they are a Christian, Muslim, Jew or atheist.

I bring up Christianity as frequent as I do because it baffles me that people who claim to be Christian not only support treating people in an incredibly unChritian way, but also the borderline worship fo Trump who claims to be a Christian, but at every turn has stated he doesn't know the Bible, has never asked Jesus for forgiveness because he didn't need to, and has acted throughout his life with a terrible moral compass, he has cheated on all his wives, he has sexually assaulted women, he has cheated and lied constantly. He does not demonstrate any sort of a moral compass, his compass always points in the direction that makes him the most money.

I appreciate your willingness to try and discuss the topic. Again, you want to group me and others on this board with the most liberal members of the Democratic party and none of us are really aligned with that group. Maybe with a little less aggression, we can all talk more about the issues that unties us and less about these fringe issues that are only there to distract and anger.
 
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One more thing, it seems disingenuous to me to be so concerned about trans children, and not upset about the president calling those victims of sexual assault at the White House a hoax, and claiming those Republicans were acting treasonous.

Why is one different than the other in your mind?
 

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One more thing, it seems disingenuous to me to be so concerned about trans children, and not upset about the president calling those victims of sexual assault at the White House a hoax, and claiming those Republicans were acting treasonous.

Why is one different than the other in your mind?
It’s not. But it’s not 100% agreed on like the libs and mutilating children. There’s republicans standing up to that. Not true on the left while they sexually mutilate children. Every single one of them voted to promote that garbage. Your silence is compliance.
 

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If this statement is true and I assume you believe it to be true:

1. I don't support permanent sex change operations on children, full stop.

How do justify and rationalize voting for people that support that to the fullest extent it can be? To the point of bringing in drag queens to elementary schools. To the point of not telling parents their children are thinking about this stuff. Again you say you don’t support that but you vote that way. That’s indirectly supporting it. You have one vote, claim your Christian, yet use that vote to put people in power that want to mutilate kids. The antithesis of Christ. What kind of mental gymnastics does that require on your part? You keep saying it’s not that many, one life is too many. Full stop. And there are thousands of “transitioned’ children killing themselves and sharing their stories of the horrors of this. But you justify it in your mind bc it’s just a few people. That’s not a Christian mindset. Sorry man it’s just not.

Jesus said protect the children. These policies endanger them drastically.
Holy Eyeroll

There is a 13 page thread on children abused by ministers or other church officials and we know the majority of those are Republican. There are 400,000 churches in this country so what kind of mental gymnastics does that require on your part to vote for these monsters who molest children? I'm sure you'll say that's not all churches but one church is one too many. There are tens of thousands of children sharing their horror stories of being abused. But you justify it in your mind because the percentage of all churches is small. That's not a Christian mindset. Sorry man, it's just not.

See how easy that is?
 
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It’s not. But it’s not 100% agreed on like the libs and mutilating children. There’s republicans standing up to that. Not true on the left while they sexually mutilate children. Every single one of them voted to promote that garbage. Your silence is compliance.

Come on man. It's not close to 100% agreed by liberals to mutilate children. That's just not true.

Does your vote mean you support adultery?

Does your vote mean you support Sexual Assault and grabbing women by the pussies?

See how ridiculous that is.
 
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It’s not. But it’s not 100% agreed on like the libs and mutilating children. There’s republicans standing up to that. Not true on the left while they sexually mutilate children. Every single one of them voted to promote that garbage. Your silence is compliance.
I'm sorry man, but you are a full on hyperbolic maniac who cannot be reasoned with. Kudos for Yoshi trying but you're completely unable to reasonably discuss this issue because of the galaxy sized monster you've created in your mind about this topic that affects a miniscule amount of the population.
 

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I'm sorry man, but you are a full on hyperbolic maniac who cannot be reasoned with. Kudos for Yoshi trying but you're completely unable to reasonably discuss this issue because of the galaxy sized monster you've created in your mind about this topic that affects a miniscule amount of the population.
Justifying mutilating children is a wild stance.
 

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Come on man. It's not close to 100% agreed by liberals to mutilate children. That's just not true.

Does your vote mean you support adultery?

Does your vote mean you support Sexual Assault and grabbing women by the pussies?

See how ridiculous that is.
No sir. Those are things that are typically experienced by adults. Hence the name adultety. Adults have full function, children do not. I’m referring to children. Big difference. Why does it bother you so much? You two have a hard on for trying to either convert or shame me for believing in protecting innocent children. It’s so weird.
 

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Holy Eyeroll

There is a 13 page thread on children abused by ministers or other church officials and we know the majority of those are Republican. There are 400,000 churches in this country so what kind of mental gymnastics does that require on your part to vote for these monsters who molest children? I'm sure you'll say that's not all churches but one church is one too many. There are tens of thousands of children sharing their horror stories of being abused. But you justify it in your mind because the percentage of all churches is small. That's not a Christian mindset. Sorry man, it's just not.

See how easy that is?
Did you personally vote for the people in churches that molest kids. That’s nuts! Great comparison btw. Completely missed the mark as usual. Why is this such a big deal to you? Why is it so important to you to cheerlead for this minuscule group as you say? Why’s it so important to change a child’s sex?
 
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No sir. Those are things that are typically experienced by adults. Hence the name adultety. Adults have full function, children do not. I’m referring to children. Big difference. Why does it bother you so much? You two have a hard on for trying to either convert or shame me for believing in protecting innocent children. It’s so weird.

I'm trying to get you to see reality. This isn't the issue you think it is.

You are claiming that 100% of liberals support surgical sex change operations on children. That's not only completely hyperbolic, it's also just untrue.

If you really cared about innocent children you be in favor of gun control since gun violence is the most common form of death for children in America.
 
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I'm trying to get you to see reality. This isn't the issue you think it is.

You are claiming that 100% of liberals support surgical sex change operations on children. That's not only completely hyperbolic, it's also just untrue.

If you really cared about innocent children you be in favor of gun control since gun violence is the most common form of death for children in America.
Any time the state starts deciding and declaring nonsense it is reality. It’s not a state issue, they’re not to be involved. I’m not participating bro. Idc what you think or say. I do not agree with it at all. Zero. You should respect my beliefs. It’s ridiculous that you two constantly badger and attack me for my personal beliefs but cry about others doing it to you. Hell you typed out a book berating me for doing that very thing to you. Hypocrite.
 
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I'm trying to get you to see reality. This isn't the issue you think it is.

You are claiming that 100% of liberals support surgical sex change operations on children. That's not only completely hyperbolic, it's also just untrue.

If you really cared about innocent children you be in favor of gun control since gun violence is the most common form of death for children in America.
I never ever said this:

You are claiming that 100% of liberals support surgical sex change operations on children. That's not only completely hyperbolic, it's also just untrue.

I did say that 100% of the democrat politicians support it and by voting for them, that is indirect support. How’s that debatable? I have yet to see a single liberal come out and say, “enough, get it out of the bathrooms, locker rooms and sports.” Not one. It would be like someone saying they voted for Hitler because he’s a great organizer and overlooking the evil he’s doing. That’s how I see this. You don’t have to agree or like it dude. Jmo.
 
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Did you personally vote for the people in churches that molest kids. That’s nuts! Great comparison btw. Completely missed the mark as usual. Why is this such a big deal to you? Why is it so important to you to cheerlead for this minuscule group as you say? Why’s it so important to change a child’s sex?
Again, you're a lunatic. Nobody I know and certainly nobody on this board agrees with sex changes for minors - nobody! I haven't looked up the numbers recently but the last time I looked there was only an average of 19 children with body modification surgeries a year and they were all top surgeries - not genital. Later surveys of these children who had reached adulthood showed that almost none of them regretted their decision.

I'm not cheerleading for anybody because it's not my business, nor is it yours. You are not wiser or more informed than the experts and the parents who grapple with these difficult decisions, so why it's such a monumental focus for you makes no sense. I've seen interviews with some of these parents who were struggling mightily with this issue that affects their families and they were begging for some grace and understanding because it's very difficult for them too. This is not being taken lightly by them, that I can assure you, so how about you leave these decisions to those in the inner circle and stop making their lives so impossibly hard because of your angry political goals. You are not them.
 
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Again, you're a lunatic. Nobody I know and certainly nobody on this board agrees with sex changes for minors - nobody! I haven't looked up the numbers recently but the last time I looked there was only an average of 19 children with body modification surgeries a year and they were all top surgeries - not genital. Later surveys of these children who had reached adulthood showed that almost none of them regretted their decision.

I'm not cheerleading for anybody because it's not my business, nor is it yours. You are not wiser or more informed than the experts and the parents who grapple with these difficult decisions, so why it's such a monumental focus for you makes no sense. I've seen interviews with some of these parents who were struggling mightily with this issue that affects their families and they were begging for some grace and understanding because it's very difficult for them too. This is not being taken lightly by them, that I can assure you, so how about you leave these decisions to those in the inner circle and stop making their lives so impossibly hard because of your angry political goals. You are not them.
I’m making people lives difficult by being anti-sex change for kids and anti drag queens in school and anti men in women’s sports? Ok. I guess that’s what’s going to happen then, I’m not changing on those things. Count me as part of the problem guys, I do not agree with that.
 

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I never ever said this:

You are claiming that 100% of liberals support surgical sex change operations on children. That's not only completely hyperbolic, it's also just untrue.

I did say that 100% of the democrat politicians support it and by voting for them, that is indirect support. How’s that debatable? I have yet to see a single liberal come out and say, “enough, get it out of the bathrooms, locker rooms and sports.” Not one. It would be like someone saying they voted for Hitler because he’s a great organizer and overlooking the evil he’s doing. That’s how I see this. You don’t have to agree or like it dude. Jmo.

How is what you just posted not exactly what I said?

Man, I've tried, but you just refuse to even hear my position, instead you attack, use wild accusations, and continue to echo the same things.

You aren't here to debate or listen to others positions, you are here to berate,attack and confirm your decided positions.

Have a good day.
 
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How is what you just posted not exactly what I said?

Man, I've tried, but you just refuse to even hear my position, instead you attack, use wild accusations, and continue to echo the same things.

You aren't here to debate or listen to others positions, you are here to berate,attack and confirm your decided positions.

Have a good day.
All you have to do is read yoshi. I didn’t say that. It’s not that difficult to understand. If you voted D you indirectly supported child sex change. And you did it knowingly. It’s not a secret that this is a pet project and has full support by the left. They literally just lost an election on these very issues. Trans and border were huge factors. To act like I’m some one off rube is disingenuous. This is very important to a lot of Americans. Especially parents.
 
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All you have to do is read yoshi. I didn’t say that. It’s not that difficult to understand. If you voted D you indirectly supported child sex change. And you did it knowingly. It’s not a secret that this is a pet project and has full support by the left. They literally just lost an election on these very issues. Trans and border were huge factors. To act like I’m some one off rube is disingenuous. This is very important to a lot of Americans. Especially parents.

The number 1 issue was the economy.

The created issue of trans children is just not a big issue in real life. There are far greater issues that effect us everyday.

Your claim that by voting Democrat I support every single thing any Democrat thinks or wants is ludicrous and not reality.

Again, do you support every single thing any Republican wants to do? JD Vance supports eliminating the rights of women to vote. There are numerous Right Wing Military groups who want to cause violence and hurt people, do you agree with that? I now know that you support Adultery, you support Sexual assault, etc

I know you don't, but that is literally what you are trying to say in regards to me.

I respectfully hope that you start to realize that these issues are not without nuance. I hope that you start to see that this issue has been created to give you something to vote against so you feel ok about voting for MAGA, while they are robbing you blind with amazing Grift.
 
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All you have to do is read yoshi. I didn’t say that. It’s not that difficult to understand. If you voted D you indirectly supported child sex change. And you did it knowingly. It’s not a secret that this is a pet project and has full support by the left. They literally just lost an election on these very issues. Trans and border were huge factors. To act like I’m some one off rube is disingenuous. This is very important to a lot of Americans. Especially parents.
Don't let your neighbors in Cowpens convince you of what voters thought were the biggest issues.

According to a November 2024 exit poll released by the Human Rights Campaign, just 4% of voters named policies related to transgender people as an important issue driving their vote. Other analyses confirmed that transgender issues were not a top priority for most voters in the 2024 election.

More details from 2024 election polling include:
  • Voter priority: Multiple polls, including one from Gallup, showed that transgender issues consistently ranked among the least important concerns for the general electorate. For example, a September 2024 Gallup poll found that only 18% of respondents said transgender rights were "extremely important" to their vote, ranking last among the issues listed. The economy, inflation, and immigration were far more significant issues for most voters.
  • Response to anti-trans rhetoric: Despite the low overall salience of the issue, polling showed that anti-trans rhetoric was not an effective campaign strategy for candidates. A Data for Progress survey found that a majority of voters (55%) viewed the increasing number of bills targeting transgender people as "political theater".
 
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I’m making people lives difficult by being anti-sex change for kids and anti drag queens in school and anti men in women’s sports? Ok. I guess that’s what’s going to happen then, I’m not changing on those things. Count me as part of the problem guys, I do not agree with that.
Why is it your business what other familes are grappling with?

I think you mean drag queens at libraries, so if you don't want your child exposed to them, don't take them but you shouldn't be able to prevent other parents from taking their kids.

Everybody agrees except for the fringiest fringe that men shouldn't compete in women's sports and Trump signed an executive order banning it in schools so you no longer need to obsess over that one.

My advice for you - touch grass
 
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Why is it your business what other familes are grappling with?

I think you mean drag queens at libraries, so if you don't want your child exposed to them, don't take them but you shouldn't be able to prevent other parents from taking their kids.

Everybody agrees except for the fringiest fringe that men shouldn't compete in women's sports and Trump signed an executive order banning it in schools so you no longer need to obsess over that one.

My advice for you - touch grass
Bro. I agree it’s private. The left made it this weird thing everyone has to accept carte blanche, not me. You’re bent outta shape, not me. Biden signed trans day of awareness on Easter, not trump. Biden made a huge statement having women with beards celebrated at the White House, not trump. I do things in my private life you probably don’t agree with right. That’s fine. I’m not forcing anything on anyone. I’m not doing anything. It’s not your business to go into schools and have drag queens reading to kids. That’s insane. Take your kids on your private time to drag queen shows. Don’t lump everyone in to one group. And you are absolutely full of crap, this happens all the time where parents aren’t advised until after the fact. Leave the kids alone at school man. School is for learning math not gender fluidity.

the other issue is this. If we were talking about a Christian extremist going into libraries at public school to read stories about the great crusades, you would have a stroke.
 
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Bro. I agree it’s private. The left made it this weird thing everyone has to accept carte blanche, not me. You’re bent outta shape, not me. Biden signed trans day of awareness on Easter, not trump. Biden made a huge statement having women with beards celebrated at the White House, not trump. I do things in my private life you probably don’t agree with right. That’s fine. I’m not forcing anything on anyone. I’m not doing anything. It’s not your business to go into schools and have drag queens reading to kids. That’s insane. Take your kids on your private time to drag queen shows. Don’t lump everyone in to one group. And you are absolutely full of crap, this happens all the time where parents aren’t advised until after the fact. Leave the kids alone at school man. School is for learning math not gender fluidity.

the other issue is this. If we were talking about a Christian extremist going into libraries at public school to read stories about the great crusades, you would have a stroke.

You truly have no idea what is actually happening in schools. Lord the internet has really fed you a ton of garbage which you just believe.

Also, show a school where they tried to have drag queens in the school. Not saying it never happened anywhere,but certainly not a common occurrence. I think you mean libraries where people have the choice to go or not.

also, in this post we see the reality you have tried to avoid saying. You hate trans people, this isn't about kids. Why do you care if an adult was at the White house in drag? How in the world does that matter to you, not to mention, would you have even heard about it if some twitter or YouTube account hadn't posted it for you to get mad about?
 
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Bro. I agree it’s private. The left made it this weird thing everyone has to accept carte blanche, not me. You’re bent outta shape, not me. Biden signed trans day of awareness on Easter, not trump. Biden made a huge statement having women with beards celebrated at the White House, not trump. I do things in my private life you probably don’t agree with right. That’s fine. I’m not forcing anything on anyone. I’m not doing anything. It’s not your business to go into schools and have drag queens reading to kids. That’s insane. Take your kids on your private time to drag queen shows. Don’t lump everyone in to one group. And you are absolutely full of crap, this happens all the time where parents aren’t advised until after the fact. Leave the kids alone at school man. School is for learning math not gender fluidity.

the other issue is this. If we were talking about a Christian extremist going into libraries at public school to read stories about the great crusades, you would have a stroke.
Biden did not sign trans day of awareness on Easter, it falls on the same date every year and that day just happened to fall on Easter that year.

And I sincerely doubt drag queens going into schools is a thing though I am sure you can find a LibsofTikTok post that says otherwise - the hysteria was over drag queens reading to kids in libraries, and no one is forcing you to take your kids to that.

And I couldn't care less if Christian extremists read to kids in libraries because it's voluntary and people who want to hear that message have every right to be there and I'd have no interest or concern about them doing so, so you're wrong. The Crusades are a historical fact and not something controversial in my book so why would I care if they learned about them?

You've allowed your imagination to run wild based on the social media you consume, so for someone like you, it would be healthy to update that algorithm before you stroke out.
 
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Biden did not sign trans day of awareness on Easter, it falls on the same date every year and that day just happened to fall on Easter that year.

And I sincerely doubt drag queens going into schools is a thing though I am sure you can find a LibsofTikTok post that says otherwise - the hysteria was over drag queens reading to kids in libraries, and no one is forcing you to take your kids to that.

And I couldn't care less if Christian extremists read to kids in libraries because it's voluntary and people who want to hear that message have every right to be there and I'd have no interest or concern about them doing so, so you're wrong. The Crusades are a historical fact and not something controversial in my book so why would I care if they learned about them?

You've allowed your imagination to run wild based on the social media you consume, so for someone like you, it would be healthy to update that algorithm before you stroke out.
It’s not only drag in libraries. It’s men in women’s spaces. All you need to do is search this stuff. Right here in black and white. Is this my imagination? You want to apologize now or at the very least admit you’re wrong?

Straight from Grok:
Yes, there are initiatives in some schools that support transgender students, often aimed at creating inclusive environments. These can include policies allowing students to use preferred names and pronouns, access restrooms and locker rooms matching their gender identity, and participate in sports consistent with their gender identity. Some schools also incorporate gender identity topics into curriculums, often focusing on respect for diverse identities or challenging gender stereotypes, particularly in states like California and New York. For example, New York City’s Department of Education has guidelines to support transgender and gender-expansive students, ensuring they’re treated according to their gender identity without requiring medical documentation.
 

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It’s not only drag in libraries. It’s men in women’s spaces. All you need to do is search this stuff. Right here in black and white. Is this my imagination? You want to apologize now or at the very least admit you’re wrong?

Straight from Grok:
Yes, there are initiatives in some schools that support transgender students, often aimed at creating inclusive environments. These can include policies allowing students to use preferred names and pronouns, access restrooms and locker rooms matching their gender identity, and participate in sports consistent with their gender identity. Some schools also incorporate gender identity topics into curriculums, often focusing on respect for diverse identities or challenging gender stereotypes, particularly in states like California and New York. For example, New York City’s Department of Education has guidelines to support transgender and gender-expansive students, ensuring they’re treated according to their gender identity without requiring medical documentation.
Holy heck dude, I can't play whack-a -mole with you all day.

You started off with child genital mutilation which isn't really a thing, then transitioned to drag queens in elementary schools which isn't really a thing, and now it's men in women's spaces, pronouns and trans teens being treated like human beings in school like it's a bad thing.

You've set this up so there's no way to end this debate because there will just be another thing that I'm supposed to disavow or I'm an evil being. So I'm going to stop trying to solve all the random, extremely rare demons that keep you up at night.

I could do the same thing with issues I find abhorrent on your side, things that are much more prevalent but we will just continue running around in circles until I'm forced to disavow hermaphrodite hummingbirds on children's playgrounds.

Have a good one.
 
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Holy heck dude, I can't play whack-a -mole with you all day.

You started off with child genital mutilation which isn't really a thing, then transitioned to drag queens in elementary schools which isn't really a thing, and now it's men in women's spaces, pronouns and trans teens being treated like human beings in school like it's a bad thing.

You've set this up so there's no way to end this debate because there will just be another thing that I'm supposed to disavow or I'm an evil being. So I'm going to stop trying to solve all the random, extremely rare demons that keep you up at night.

I could do the same thing with issues I find abhorrent on your side, things that are much more prevalent but we will just continue running around in circles until I'm forced to disavow hermaphrodite hummingbirds on children's playgrounds.

Have a good one.
You’re full of ****. I’ve been 100% consistent. I have been unwavering on child sex change, men in women’s spaces and sports, and leave kids alone. They’re all directly tied to this ideology. You may not like that but that doesn’t make it false. You’re wrong here.
 

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So you support his call to ban an entire religion in America?

And I never renounce my faith. I act by the dictates of my faith and the teachings of Jesus.

I saw a funny post the other day which seems to relate to many of you:

"When someone says they are a Christian I ask them, are you a Jesus Christian or a Maga Christian?
Good example of a fake Maga Christian. Indicted on security fraud charges and his wife just left him for adultery.

Texas AG goes step further in push for Christianity in public schools​

Ken Paxton urged students to recite the Lord’s Prayer after backing a law allowing designated prayer periods in schools.

"Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has backed laws requiring his state’s public schools to display the Ten Commandments and enabling the schools’ adoption of a state-backed, Bible-based curriculum along with designated prayer periods.

This week, the Republican went a step further — urging children to recite “the Lord’s Prayer, as taught by Jesus Christ,” if their public schools established a prayer period as permitted by a state law that took effect Monday.

“In Texas classrooms, we want the Word of God opened, the Ten Commandments displayed, and prayers lifted up,” Paxton said in a news release on his office’s letterhead. “Our nation was founded on the rock of Biblical Truth, and I will not stand by while the far-left attempts to push our country into the sinking sand.”

 
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You’re full of ****. I’ve been 100% consistent. I have been unwavering on child sex change, men in women’s spaces and sports, and leave kids alone. They’re all directly tied to this ideology. You may not like that but that doesn’t make it false. You’re wrong here.

Good example of a fake Maga Christian. Indicted on security fraud charges and his wife just left him for adultery.

Texas AG goes step further in push for Christianity in public schools​

Ken Paxton urged students to recite the Lord’s Prayer after backing a law allowing designated prayer periods in schools.

"Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has backed laws requiring his state’s public schools to display the Ten Commandments and enabling the schools’ adoption of a state-backed, Bible-based curriculum along with designated prayer periods.

This week, the Republican went a step further — urging children to recite “the Lord’s Prayer, as taught by Jesus Christ,” if their public schools established a prayer period as permitted by a state law that took effect Monday.

“In Texas classrooms, we want the Word of God opened, the Ten Commandments displayed, and prayers lifted up,” Paxton said in a news release on his office’s letterhead. “Our nation was founded on the rock of Biblical Truth, and I will not stand by while the far-left attempts to push our country into the sinking sand.”


Its honestly shocking to hear and see. This is 1909s era America stuff we are seeing out of MAGA. I guess their version of when America was great is 1950? Guess who America wasn't good for in 1950, Anybody who wasn't a white, Christian, heterosexual man.
 
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🚨 BREAKING: Gov. @GregAbbott_TX has just signed a law BANNING compounds like the planned Muslim “EPIC City”


It also:


✅ Prevents “no go zones”
✅ Prevents selling land only to Muslims
✅ Requires disputes to be brought under Texas laws & Texas courts — NOT Sharia law


This should be National!