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Boomboom521

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Its tough to say. Probably should have set up the trap with less traffic around. Live and learn.
Looks like everyone will live, thankfully

A lot of cruisers are ordered to fall back in high speed chases when there is heavy traffic to avoid accidents. PIT maneuvers and spike strips should only be attempted in areas where it’s safe.

Although, I haven’t read the article....and it’s always easier to armchair quarterback the situation. I was just commenting that if it was me and my wife and kids in that vehicle that was hit, I’d be pissed the police weren’t more careful.
 

wvu2007

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Sent a unit ahead 1/2 mile of the area where we throw out the strips to block the road and not let anyone pass?

“Tucker made threats of going to a residence in Windham and causing harm,” Goulet said.

Deputy Joseph Dyer stopped Tucker at the intersection of Routes 302 and 35. Tucker sped off when the deputy asked him to pull into a nearby parking lot, Goulet said.

The area is a dense commercial zone with five traffic lanes bordered on both sides by strip malls.

Dyer pursued Tucker, but stopped following him a half-mile later, after Tucker began driving recklessly at a high speed, Lt. David Hall said in an interview Sunday. The crash happened about 3 miles north of where Tucker was first stopped.

Investigators are reconstructing the accident to find how fast Tucker was speeding, Hall said.

When officers use a pursuit termination device, like a spike mat, other drivers are supposed to be kept far away from the area to avoid crashes, according to Hall. In this instance, everything happened too quickly and there were not enough officers available to do that, he added.

“Usually, when spike mats are deployed, it is rapidly unfolding,” Hall said. “We try to make it as safe as possible. If the suspect just drives over the strips, it is not a problem; if he tries to go around it or take other action, it becomes a problem.

“The spike strips does not cause someone to lose control of their vehicle; they deflate the tires very gradually so they can keep control over the vehicle,” Hall added.

“Him crashing was not caused by the spike strips, but was caused by him overcorrecting.”
 

wvu2007

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Sounds like the cops put citizens at risk to get the guys. Thats a tough call

Yeah, tough situation. The one officer backed off because he was driving recklessly. The only option was to completely not pursue him but then there is the risk that he is going to show up at the residence before the cops do and murder someone.
 

dave

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“Tucker made threats of going to a residence in Windham and causing harm,” Goulet said.

Deputy Joseph Dyer stopped Tucker at the intersection of Routes 302 and 35. Tucker sped off when the deputy asked him to pull into a nearby parking lot, Goulet said.

The area is a dense commercial zone with five traffic lanes bordered on both sides by strip malls.

Dyer pursued Tucker, but stopped following him a half-mile later, after Tucker began driving recklessly at a high speed, Lt. David Hall said in an interview Sunday. The crash happened about 3 miles north of where Tucker was first stopped.

Investigators are reconstructing the accident to find how fast Tucker was speeding, Hall said.

When officers use a pursuit termination device, like a spike mat, other drivers are supposed to be kept far away from the area to avoid crashes, according to Hall. In this instance, everything happened too quickly and there were not enough officers available to do that, he added.

“Usually, when spike mats are deployed, it is rapidly unfolding,” Hall said. “We try to make it as safe as possible. If the suspect just drives over the strips, it is not a problem; if he tries to go around it or take other action, it becomes a problem.

“The spike strips does not cause someone to lose control of their vehicle; they deflate the tires very gradually so they can keep control over the vehicle,” Hall added.

“Him crashing was not caused by the spike strips, but was caused by him overcorrecting.”
Without enough time and officers to do the manuever safely was it a good idea?
 

dave

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Yeah, tough situation. The one officer backed off because he was driving recklessly. The only option was to completely not pursue him but then there is the risk that he is going to show up at the residence before the cops do and murder someone.
the cops could have protected the residence and passed off the tail on the idiot.

The problem now is 4 people got hurt.
 

wvu2007

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the cops could have protected the residence and passed off the tail on the idiot.

The problem now is 4 people got hurt.

That would seem like the logical thing to do. Not sure if they did send someone to the residence but they certainly should have first.
 

wvu2007

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Nice 00, discuss it calmly with Dave....but jump on me like I’m an idiot.

LOL! I didn't say you were an idiot. I imagine if I was the guy who got hit I would be pissed too but without knowing the details I wasn't going to jump all over the police about it. The dumb *** who is threatening people and driving like a maniac is who I would be pissed at.
 

wvu2007

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Nice 00, discuss it calmly with Dave....but jump on me like I’m an idiot.

LOL! I didn't say you were an idiot. I imagine if I was the guy who got hit I would be pissed too but without knowing the details I wasn't going to jump all over the police about it. The dumb *** who is threatening people and driving like a maniac is who I would be pissed at.
 

Boomboom521

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LOL! I didn't say you were an idiot. I imagine if I was the guy who got hit I would be pissed too but without knowing the details I wasn't going to jump all over the police about it. The dumb *** who is threatening people and driving like a maniac is who I would be pissed at.
Hence the word TOO