Is Thompson getting the call?

[Uncle Ruckus]

The Thunder and Lightning Twitter says “change is coming at quarterback” and I saw something else today that insinuated Thompson is playing. I havent listened to anything MSU related since last Friday because of apathy and ****. Did Mxxrhead say Thompson is playing?

 

[MSUDC11]

He basically said Fitz is still the starter but they have discussed giving KT a series or two in the first half to see if he has the hot hand.

 

[WutheringDawg]

Direct quote from Moorhead's presser yesterday.

"To answer your question we have discussed in the offensive staff room, not making a change you know, but during the first half and the second half giving KT an opportunity to start a drive for two reasons - as a change of pace to give him an opportunity because he's a talented player, and secondarily to take some of the physical wear and tear off of Nick, who's got 121 carries in six games and is the fifth leading rusher in the SEC."

Seems almost academic at this point that we see KT vs A&M.

 

[Xenomorph]

Paralyzed by indecision because you don't know WT17 to do.

 

[BossDawg78]

Paralyzed by indecision because you don't know WT17 to do.

This all day.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

I'm still hoping to see Chang...

 

[DAWG61]

Direct quote from Moorhead's presser yesterday. "and is the fifth leading rusher in the SEC."

What's the point of Moorhead pointing out he's the 5th leading rusher in the SEC? Sounds like a little Croomhead arrogance poking out there. Hey Moorhead where does Fitz rank as a passer in the SEC? Ya know cause he's a QUARTERBACK and all.

 

[stateu1]

What's the point of Moorhead pointing out he's the 5th leading rusher in the SEC? Sounds like a little Croomhead arrogance poking out there. Hey Moorhead where does Fitz rank as a passer in the SEC? Ya know cause he's a QUARTERBACK and all.

Yeah but are quarterback passing stats a thing?**

 

[SyonaraStanz]

I'm still hoping to see Chang...

Brian may have said "QB Chang," but we all know that man was thinking "PF Chang."

 

[Dawgtruc]

I never want to throw shade on what Fitz has done for this program (on the field). However, he seems preoccupied with outside influences. KT, on the other hand, from all I've heard, is a student of the game, and therefore, IMO knows this offense good enough to execute it better. One thing that seems apparent, is Fitz does not read defenses well at all. And his vision of the field is first read covered and then run, throw into double coverage, or throw it 10 yards over everyone's head.

If A&M loads up to stop the run, KT gives the best chance.

 

[FordhamBulldog]

I never want to throw shade on what Fitz has done for this program (on the field). However, he seems preoccupied with outside influences. KT, on the other hand, from all I've heard, is a student of the game, and therefore, IMO knows this offense good enough to execute it better. One thing that seems apparent, is Fitz does not read defenses well at all. And his vision of the field is first read covered and then run, throw into double coverage, or throw it 10 yards over everyone's head.

If A&M loads up to stop the run, KT gives the best chance.

Totally agree. Fitz is more concerned with having a good time than getting better. He's always been an A+ runner, C passer (at best)

Moorhead is not the problem.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

Totally agree. Fitz is more concerned with having a good time than getting better. He's always been an A+ runner, C passer (at best)

Moorhead is not the problem.

What the hell! Moorhead IS the problem because he didn’t recognize Fitz passing deficiencies when he watched film of last year’s team. Dude is like Ronnie Milsap trying to lead Stevie Wonder across the Santa Monica Freeway!

 

[FordhamBulldog]

What the hell! Moorhead IS the problem because he didn’t recognize Fitz passing deficiencies when he watched film of last year’s team. Dude is like Ronnie Milsap trying to lead Stevie Wonder across the Santa Monica Freeway!

Couple reasons why that's wrong--

1) maybe kt is worse in practice

2) maybe he felt pressure like many coaches do to stick with the guy who's been starting the past two seasons. It would have been beyond a bold move if he named KT the starter preseason. People would have been calling for his head before they ever even played a game.

Like I said in another thread, just wait until he gets a qb who can read defenses and throw. His Penn state offense was unreal. You don't just forget how to coach.

 

[HumpDawgy]

If it takes another QB in there to get Kylin and Aeris more carries, then I am all for it. If he brings Key out and tries to air it down the field to our ADHD receiving corp, then expect more of the same.

 

[Seinfeld]

By your logic, if the New England Patriots hired Moorhead next year, and he immediately took them to 0-16 while trying to make Tom Brady a read option QB, that would also not be his fault. He just needs time to get HIS QB into the system

Do some of you understand how insane it sounds to fully recognize the fact that our scoring offense has regressed by nearly 70% since last season in SEC play with the only significant uncommon denominator being a change at head coach, yet this is somehow in no way Moorhead's fault?

 

[ShrubDog]

Totally agree. Fitz is more concerned with having a good time than getting better. He's always been an A+ runner, C passer (at best)

Moorhead is not the problem.

Did you play for Moorhead at Fordham or something? Sticking your neck out.

Not the problem? He is part of the problem along with a bunch of other things. If Mullen was still coaching we wouldn’t be in this spot. All I know is Moorhead is the coach and we are in a bind.

 

[ShrubDog]

Like I said in another thread, just wait until he gets a qb who can read defenses and throw. His Penn state offense was unreal. You don't just forget how to coach.

We were ready to win now, not wait on HIS qb to run the show. We aren’t promised anything in the future. We don’t give two ***** how good his offense was at Penn State because it means nothing to us right now. He will probably never have another team this talented again while he is at State. He ran Fitz 23 17ing times last week all while our RB’s are holding their helmets or playing decoy. You must be new to SEC football

 

[thatsbaseball]

AND we didn't need an offensive juggernaut to win this season. An average+ offense would have gotten us 10 or 11 wins and a top 10 season. I will guarantee you Croomhead would not be here if Cohen and the administration had the luxury of hindsight. They had no idea this cluster would happen.

 

[Seinfeld]

I love Cohen as a Bulldog, I think he adores MSU athletics, and I know he’s working insanely hard. That said, I do have to question whether he was really cut out for this role

 

[Bullldawg78]

Couple reasons why that's wrong--

1) maybe kt is worse in practice

2) maybe he felt pressure like many coaches do to stick with the guy who's been starting the past two seasons. It would have been beyond a bold move if he named KT the starter preseason. People would have been calling for his head before they ever even played a game.

Like I said in another thread, just wait until he gets a qb who can read defenses and throw. His Penn state offense was unreal. You don't just forget how to coach.

I could be wrong, but I remeber many people (announcers, talking heads, I think I even remember hearing Matt Wyatt say it) saying that Dak wasn't a practice player but a gamer and knew how to lead and win. Any chance KT could be the same, practice eiant his thing but game time the switch flips? Just curious anyone's thoughts.

 

[tcdog70]

Couple reasons why that's wrong--

1) maybe kt is worse in practice

2) maybe he felt pressure like many coaches do to stick with the guy who's been starting the past two seasons. It would have been beyond a bold move if he named KT the starter preseason. People would have been calling for his head before they ever even played a game.

Like I said in another thread, just wait until he gets a qb who can read defenses and throw. His Penn state offense was unreal. You don't just forget how to coach.

Dude-our very same offense last year averaged 35 points and 400 yards a game. Nick as a soph. was the SEC total yardage leader. If you can't install your offense and be effective--then run the one the players know. Joe's offense is running about 15 plays a game less than last year. 3 points a game doesn't look very guruish to Me. We had second and 2 and goal to go and kicked a fricking FG. How stupid is that. We have probably top 3 defense in Nation, go for the TD and if you don't get it they have it on the 1 yard line. I feel confident our D would have got the ball right back. We don't need to be punting on 4th and 1 either..

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

 

[tired]

Couple reasons why that's wrong--

1) maybe kt is worse in practice

2) maybe he felt pressure like many coaches do to stick with the guy who's been starting the past two seasons. It would have been beyond a bold move if he named KT the starter preseason. People would have been calling for his head before they ever even played a game.

Like I said in another thread, just wait until he gets a qb who can read defenses and throw. His Penn state offense was unreal. You don't just forget how to coach.

If you're not a State fan and just a Moorehead fan, gtfo. You don't get a say.

If you are a State fan, I apologize and carry on.

 

[FordhamBulldog]

Did you play for Moorhead at Fordham or something? Sticking your neck out.

Not the problem? He is part of the problem along with a bunch of other things. If Mullen was still coaching we wouldn’t be in this spot. All I know is Moorhead is the coach and we are in a bind.

I did not know who Joe Moorhead was until State hired him. State fan first and foremost.

 

[boatsandhoes]

We have to make a change. If for nothing other than to see, or to try to create some chemistry.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Here's the problem- Penn State players are smart, Mississippi State players are

His Penn state offense was unreal. You don't just forget how to coach.

,uhhhh, "Special". Penn State has players who value academics as much as they value playing football. Mississippi State players need tutors, untimed tests, and prayer chains to score a freaking 18 on the ACT.

 

[DAWG61]

Yup we dumb. Maybe that's why Moorhead is suiciding his offense. He misses having a team that can spell RPO without the moniker.

 

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

Don’t know if he is but HE SHOULD get some series.
If nothing else to give Fitz a chance to look at where the receivers are and how to go thru his progressions.
Fitz is just not a pocket passer and has NEVER been !

 

[deadheaddawg]

Saban kept Jalen in as a starter over Tau in every single game last year.

I am sure all these great coaches who post here, the ones that are great coaches but choose to work in other professions, would have pulled Jalen way earlier in the season and did what saban failed to do last year and win a SEC championship.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

Please little 6lb 8oz baby Jesus let it be KT This Saturday.

 

[JoMo MoJo]

Honestly I don’t know what the 17 they do at practice on the offensive side of the ball. I wouldn’t take any evaluations based on practices as any indication of who is better.

I do speculate that Moorhead has no concept of practicing like you play. He obviously didn’t spend 2 weeks leading up to LSU blasting fan noise over the practice field so our offense can figure it out in a noisy environment. He probably doesn’t even run defenders at our QB and RB in practice based on how many times these 17’ers have tried to run it up the middle into a brick wall.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

I could be wrong, but I remeber many people (announcers, talking heads, I think I even remember hearing Matt Wyatt say it) saying that Dak wasn't a practice player but a gamer and knew how to lead and win. Any chance KT could be the same, practice eiant his thing but game time the switch flips? Just curious anyone's thoughts.

It's possible. It can work the other way too.

I played baseball with a guy that was tits in BP and even live BP and we had live BP against a few guys that were drafted... He absolutely hit rockets everywhere... Come game time he was a mess, swinging at everything and when he didn't strike out, it was a pop-up. I assume Fitz is this way... Every week the coaches see him looking good in practice and think "this is the week." At a certain point you have to realize he's can put on a show in BP, but if you start him, he's going to be a liability. After Florida I knew for sure what Fitz is.. 15 lbs shy and 2 years late to being an All American Tight End.

 

[sandwolf.sixpack]

I love Cohen as a Bulldog, I think he adores MSU athletics, and I know he’s working insanely hard. That said, I do have to question whether he was really cut out for this role

I hear what you're saying and I'm not fully sold that he is a great fit as an AD either.

That said, it's hard for me to hold the Moorhead hire against him. He was arguably the top offensive coordinator in the country, had a good track record as both an assistant and a head coach and pretty much everyone considered it to be a home run hire. I know that it ultimately falls on him if Moorhead is a bust, but I have a hard time seeing how anyone could have predicted this. He also did a really good job with the transition/hiring process. He pretty much forced Mullen to show his hand by trying to get him to sign an extension early in the season, which allowed him to get a head start on the coaching search. Then he handled the entire process during the season (without it leaking) and announced a highly regarded coach just a few days after the Egg Bowl....no drama, and the fan base had moved on from Mullen inside of a week.

Again, I know that it ultimately falls on Cohen and that this is definitely not the time to speak well of anything that lead to our current situation, but I just can't hold this against him.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

KT should start... if he falters, bring Fitz in. But faltering should involve multiple interceptions or a string of 3 and outs.

 

[BossDawg78]

I don't think ANYBODY predicted this, and I definitely don't think Cohen is at fault here (provided Moorhead doesn't dig the team out of this hole). There wasn't a single outside person criticizing this hire and State fans were excited. Many though Moorhead was an upgrade from Mallard. I'm not sure how anyone can blame Cohen for what it going down now. Moorehead had many, many people fooled....and he still might end up being a stellar HC here.

 

[bddawg]

KT should start... if he falters, bring Fitz in. But faltering should involve multiple interceptions or a string of 3 and outs.

Gonna be a long Saturday either way we go. This isn't going to improve overnight. Cluster****. Absolute cluster.

 

[NCDawgs15]

If Moorhead won’t make the obvious change that needs to be made then he is in fact now the problem.

 

[Dawgzilla]

I have convinced myself that having a deep threat at the QB position is all we need for the offense to open up. I'm probably wrong.