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Caravan6410

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Is there any scenario rice plays in 8A? Would be fun! Although I’m not sure the score would be any better.
 

HuskieFan2020

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Why wait for the playoffs and an impossible request to petition down? Just schedule them in a non-con game like the current #1 team in 8A did two years ago. ;)
Too bad LWE wouldn't ever do this. An East St. Louis- LWE matchup to open the season in week 1 would require playing the game in a different location to accommodate the number of fans showing up.
 

jha618

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Too bad LWE wouldn't ever do this. An East St. Louis- LWE matchup to open the season in week 1 would require playing the game in a different location to accommodate the number of fans showing up.
Clyde C. Jordan has more than enough seats to accommodate the LWE fans. There is also plenty of room to tailgate just outside of the stadium.
 

cornerrat#1

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Clyde C. Jordan has more than enough seats to accommodate the LWE fans. There is also plenty of room to tailgate just outside of the stadium
All.... Absolutely. And Estl fans are the kings of the state with college and pro grade tailgating that has been written up in the St. Louis newspaper periodically. A huge area with everything imaginable cooking. With fans that show up on afternoon postseason games at the crack of dawn to set up and for the earliest ones get a spot right next to the stadium endzone watching the Flyers pound their rival of the day though the fence. Ratsy
 
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Some kind of annual showcase with maybe the top 3 teams from Illinois playing the top 3 from Indiana would be intriguing. Rotate between Univ of Illinois and Purdue/Indiana U each year, a reasonable distance for travel. IN has a few highly ranked programs like Brownsburg.

With U of IL and IU being programs on the rise maybe they could build upon that, show off the campus, chat with respective staff, and keep a few guys in state that wouldn't otherwise.
 

ramblinman reborn

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I don’t believe LWE has dodged anyone in the 25 year history of existence. The program has done just fine for a public HS representative. Let the fun begin.
I don't believe anyone was accusing LWE of dodging. We might, however, be insinuating that LWE hasn't picked up the phone to call ESL to schedule a game, which is not the same as dodging. :cool:
 
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jha618

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Because both schools don't want it to happen.
Yea I'm going out on a limb and saying that's not the case. MC and LA on the schedule the last two years for in state opponents. IMG (x) Bosco, Gorman, SFA. What about that non con schedule would make you believe esl would avoid playing lwe.
 
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LWN_Pheonix

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Yea I'm going out on a limb and saying that's not the case. MC and LA on the schedule the last two years for in state opponents. IMG (x) Bosco, Gorman, SFA. What about that non con schedule would make you believe esl would avoid playing lwe.
LWE is just to big and too strong

there is a huge difference in play when you look at what is going on in 6A as compared to the largest class in the state
 
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The815

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Can ESL petition up and say they want to play in the 8A for playoffs? Let's figure out who the #1 is this year with a bracket loaded with LW-East, ESL, Loyola, and MC!
 

The815

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Why hasn't LWE put East St. Louis on the schedule? Or vice versa? It's a fair question to ask.

I don’t believe LWE has dodged anyone in the 25 year history of existence. The program has done just fine for a public HS representative. Let the fun begin.
LWE was supposed to go down to ESL last season and play in their classic. They were supposed to play a team from Florida but a few weeks before the classic the team from Florida cancelled on them. LWE tried finding another opponent but no one was available or willing to play. LWE ended up with a forfeit win and only an 8 game regular season schedule.
 

McCaravan

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Can ESL petition up and say they want to play in the 8A for playoffs? Let's figure out who the #1 is this year with a bracket loaded with LW-East, ESL, Loyola, and MC!
I believe, and maybe wrong, that you can only go up 2 classes from where you were originally slated to be by your actual enrollment and ESL would be 4A by their enrollment size so 6A is as high as they can go. Since they've switched to the 8 class system ESL has never been higher then 7A
 

JCHillmen10

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I believe, and maybe wrong, that you can only go up 2 classes from where you were originally slated to be by your actual enrollment and ESL would be 4A by their enrollment size so 6A is as high as they can go. Since they've switched to the 8 class system ESL has never been higher then 7A
You can petition up to any class you want. The rest of ESL's conference put in a bylaw saying you could only petition up one class (effectively keeping ESL out of 7A and 8A where the rest of the conference doesn't feel like being eliminated by them).

So ESL is left with a choice. Max out at 6A or bump up to 8A but get kicked out of their own league. Logistically from an athletic department standpoint, there really isn't an option. They must comply or have no realistic good fit conference to call home across their sports.
 

jha618

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I believe, and maybe wrong, that you can only go up 2 classes from where you were originally slated to be by your actual enrollment and ESL would be 4A by their enrollment size so 6A is as high as they can go. Since they've switched to the 8 class system ESL has never been higher then 7A
ESL enrollment is 5a.
 

HuskieFan2020

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LWE was supposed to go down to ESL last season and play in their classic. They were supposed to play a team from Florida but a few weeks before the classic the team from Florida cancelled on them. LWE tried finding another opponent but no one was available or willing to play. LWE ended up with a forfeit win and only an 8 game regular season schedule.
So why didn't LWE end up playing East St. Louis last week?
 

WIU@78

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Again LWE had plans last year to be in the EStl classic…Florida team bailed.
 
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WIU@78

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I still believe a Joliet Catholic Academy vs Lincoln-Way East should happen also.
Providence Catholic happened for 5-6 years. St. Rita had a home and home. Richards HS. Edwardsville did two years at ISU for non-cons and of course Maine South from the early 2000’s has scheduled the Griffins.
 

4Afan

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I still believe a Joliet Catholic Academy vs Lincoln-Way East should happen also.
Providence Catholic happened for 5-6 years. St. Rita had a home and home. Richards HS. Edwardsville did two years at ISU for non-cons and of course Maine South from the early 2000’s has scheduled the Griffins.
JCA has to get back on track first. Going to come down to the last game of the season against Provi to see if they even get into the playoffs.
 

WIU@78

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Understood with JCA….but this game had 25 years now to happen and Providence proved that it could be done. I believe in the next few years a window may open.
 

crusader_of_90

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I am sensing that you don’t like me for some reason. It is a shame. We could’ve had brunch sometime.