Is Quade too far gone

[AlbanyWildCat]

Sounds like hes bitter that Hero is getting the bulk of the minutes at the 2.

I say bench his *** if he cant compete.

Can you blame Quade? I mean, what has Herro done to deserve run? Herro can't play D (neither can Quade), turns the ball over frequently (as does Quade), and can't shoot.

Quade is probably looking at Herro and saying, I am the better shooter of the two and coach is sticking with the Great White Hope.

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

Green is giving us nothing and don't get me started on Richards. The one thing I am growing increasingly tired of hearing is, all of the NBA talk with these players. This player has to do this, to get to the next level, this player needs to work on this to get the next level. This player won't be playing inside in the NBA so he has to stretch his game. This player won't be a point guard at the next level, so he needs to work on his shooting. Cal has turned UK into a training camp for the NBA. I don't watch the NBA due to the fact that over half of the players don't belong in the league. They are basically stealing money from these teams. Take the game last night between the Celtics and Bulls. Boston beat them by over 50 points and the players on the Bulls are "professional players." I can't believe people actually pay good money to watch these games. Hell some teams shoot 30-40 3's per game.

Why are you so worried about other people's money. You must be fun to hang around with...

 

[RalphDaltonFan]

or can he still be a factor this year? Just seems like he is halfway out the door to me. He was a descent player last year, just wondering is playing Green at SG and deep benching Herro at least for a couple of games maybe a solution.

Cal gotta do something!

He is an undersized shooting guard who literally is turning the ball over anytime he passes. He's a liability on the defensive end and yet he insists on trying to make plays passing. Either he catches and shoots or sits. He doesn't do enough without scoring to warrant playing and his biggest asset was trying to land Bamba and that didn't happen either.

 

[sam_o]

uk fans have been trained to give up on guys so fast. kid is a sophomore, played pretty decent in spots as a freshman. and here not even 10 games into his 2nd year, people are closing up shop on him because he's not john wall or deaaron fox

calipari has really did a number on this fanbase

 

[JAC71]

I think you know the answer. He will contribute here and there. May even be key player in a game or two. But he is never gonna be a go to. He had a really bad game today. He does not need a lot of PT. He is too inconsistent. Is he gone? I’d say he never arrived.

Sad thing is there are probably people in his inner circle telling him that he's being held back. And if he was playing somewhere else he would shine. He will have some good games for us yet and i hope he keeps a positive attitude and just blocks out all of the noise.

 

[JC43]

Him and Richards. Staff has done terrible job developing Richards.

Agreed on Quade, not so much on Richards. Nick had a good game yesterday, outplayed EJ for sure. Quade is done, I think a cancer now on the team. With all the buzz at the end of season from his former coach, family members etc.,like he did us a favor for returning.really wished he left and let Hagans and IQ split duties....Quade is not a NBA player. I'm sorry he is avg athletically and undersized. To get over his physical liabilities he either has to be a)lights out shooter b)high IQ general on the floor.
C) combination of both.
I hate to blast any of our players but what has Quade done to show he belongs on the floor. He hasnt shown any say on the court, he makes bone headed plays, he is a turnover ready to happen.
I believe in addition by subtraction.
Quade needs to man up, accept his role, play to make everyone better..give his minutes to baker...

 

[stoneycat_20]

or can he still be a factor this year? Just seems like he is halfway out the door to me. He was a descent player last year, just wondering is playing Green at SG and deep benching Herro at least for a couple of games maybe a solution.

Cal gotta do something!

QG is an undersized 2G..He will never be UK PG..He can't handle the ball, makes bad decisions..He had what 10 TO vs SH?

 

[dckala2_rivals16641]

Quade threw the ball at keldon Johnson’s feet, not really sure what else you can say about his play.

 

[Randy Bob]

Green did not play a lot yesterday the same with Richards Green make a couple shots when he was in he is a good shooter of course is defense and passing is not good sometimes

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Quade is the type of player that has to start to be effective. Him coming off the bench and playing 15 minutes will never work. Might as well not even play him. He should start at Sg and Herro come off the bench. Also give Herros green light to Quade.

 

[MychalG]

Why are you so worried about other people's money. You must be fun to hang around with...

What the hell is that all about?? I made a comment about NBA players and you come back with this stupid comment. Trust me I don't worry about other people's money. I have plenty of my own. I certainly don't worry about your money or lack there of. On the 2nd part..I have plenty of friends, probably more friends than you have $$ in your bank account, dip ****. Take a hike moron..

 

[SpeedyAmish]

Quade is like an appendix. Not sure of the purpose and often painful.

 

[FFWhite]

Not being able to come off the bench tells me he is pouting. No room for pouters throwing soft cross court passes. Cal needs to get two grown men to stand on his shoulders to pop his head out of his ***.

 

[JC43]

Not being able to come off the bench tells me he is pouting. No room for pouters throwing soft cross court passes. Cal needs to get two grown men to stand on his shoulders to pop his head out of his ***.

Bwahh!! Literally belly laughed, thank you needed that

 

[Cowboys&Wildcats]

That's what happens when you recruit the 5 stars instead of style of play. Green doesn't fit Calipari's type of point guard or style of play and it has hurt both Kentucky and Quade Green.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

Agreed on Quade, not so much on Richards. Nick had a good game yesterday, outplayed EJ for sure. Quade is done, I think a cancer now on the team. With all the buzz at the end of season from his former coach, family members etc.,like he did us a favor for returning.really wished he left and let Hagans and IQ split duties....Quade is not a NBA player. I'm sorry he is avg athletically and undersized. To get over his physical liabilities he either has to be a)lights out shooter b)high IQ general on the floor.
C) combination of both.
I hate to blast any of our players but what has Quade done to show he belongs on the floor. He hasnt shown any say on the court, he makes bone headed plays, he is a turnover ready to happen.
I believe in addition by subtraction.
Quade needs to man up, accept his role, play to make everyone better..give his minutes to baker...

Can't disagree with a lot of this. I don't know what's happened to Quade but he's turned into a turnover machine. I liked his game last year and thought he was a nice player to have on the team. He looks unhappy when he's on the floor so that says quite a bit.

 

[kgargus]

Quade is a 10 minute role player to me against top competition . Just not athletic enough and just wants to be the guy too much .

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

I’ve already told you all that there are chemistry issues on this team; it’s stemming from a couple of players for the most part; and QG is the one causing most of the venom. He sure isn’t happy, and he doesn’t get along with a few others and it’s causing problems for the entire team. You can watch QG on the bench and even on the floor - you can see it. Just watch him. Watch how he acts when we are playing well - watch how he interacts with certain other players. You’ll see it.

 

[JC43]

I’ve already told you all that there are chemistry issues on this team; it’s stemming from a couple of players for the most part; and QG is the one causing most of the venom. He sure isn’t happy, and he doesn’t get along with a few others and it’s causing problems for the entire team. You can watch QG on the bench and even on the floor - you can see it. Just watch him. Watch how he acts when we are playing well - watch how he interacts with certain other players. You’ll see it.

Absolutely believe it...when you first brought this up several weeks ago, quade came to mind...so rewatched games and watched him on bench, then when Cal subbed dome one in, think it was Hagans and Hagans wentry to high five but quade kinda walked past leaving him hanging...
Or I maybe I'm still pissed bout how he held everyone hostage if he was returning or not...
Lasalle may have his services, nova won't want him

 

[IrishMike409]

Can you blame Quade? I mean, what has Herro done to deserve run? Herro can't play D (neither can Quade), turns the ball over frequently (as does Quade), and can't shoot.

Quade is probably looking at Herro and saying, I am the better shooter of the two and coach is sticking with the Great White Hope.

What a dumb take.

 

[Woodrow24]

I don’t think anyone should give up on Quade. He’s just a sophomore! I think he should stay all 4 years here and be a leader for us as an upperclassmen. The attitude with this one and done culture sucks because it seems like the kids and fans see it as a negative situation if higher ranked kids stay in college four years. Walking away after four years in college with a degree, and getting yourself ready for life as a professional both physically and mentally is never a bad thing.

Sometimes players have to take a different route to play professional basketball. Having a backup plan (a degree) is always great considering it is so difficult to make it in the NBA. Richards is another player that should stay 4 years as well. I’m not saying that all of them should stay so I hope no one twists my words around but I have seen more than a few situations that kids should have stayed and played another year or more for our program.

 

[IrishMike409]

I don’t think anyone should give up on Quade. He’s just a sophomore! I think he should stay all 4 years here and be a leader for us as an upperclassmen. The attitude with this one and done culture sucks because it seems like the kids and fans see it as a negative situation if higher ranked kids stay in college four years. Walking away after four years in college with a degree, and getting yourself ready for life as a professional both physically and mentally is never a bad thing.

Sometimes players have to take a different route to play professional basketball. Having a backup plan (a degree) is always great considering it is so difficult to make it in the NBA. Richards is another player that should stay 4 years as well. I’m not saying that all of them should stay so I hope no one twists my words around but I have seen more than a few situations that kids should have stayed and played another year or more for our program.

I don't think either want to be here for 4 years.

 

[Woodrow24]

I don't think either want to be here for 4 years.

I hope you’re wrong but I won’t bet against that.

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

What a dumb take.

Maybe you were watching a different game than I was yesterday, but Herro was getting torched all day long on defense, couldn't hit an outside shot and had issues with keeping his hands on the ball.

Statistically speaking, Quade is a much better shooter than Herro.

Herro 3 Point % - 27% on 44 shots
Quade 3 Point % - 42% on 26 shots

 

[Tapemaster8]

I’m pretty sure he’s our all time leader in “fast breaks started for the other team per minute played.” Its uncanny. I’ve never seen a “point guard” with such a knack for throwing away cross court passes.

Can you blame Quade? I mean, what has Herro done to deserve run? Herro can't play D (neither can Quade), turns the ball over frequently (as does Quade), and can't shoot.

Quade is probably looking at Herro and saying, I am the better shooter of the two and coach is sticking with the Great White Hope.

Hero hasn’t shot well patience is needed until his shot comes around! He is the best post entry passer in the team. I believe he is doing most everything Cal is asking him to do except put the ball in the basket from three point range. I can remember we fans giving up on too many players during the 57 years I have been a Cat fan! I remover Goose Givens shooting an air ball during the 1975 NCAA Game against UCLA from 6 feet! Sure glad he stuck around.
All I am saying way to early to give up on any of our players or the coaching staff.

 

[IrishMike409]

Maybe you were watching a different game than I was yesterday, but Herro was getting torched all day long on defense, couldn't hit an outside shot and had issues with keeping his hands on the ball.

Statistically speaking, Quade is a much better shooter than Herro.

Herro 3 Point % - 27% on 44 shots
Quade 3 Point % - 42% on 26 shots

My response was dumb, and I apologize for that.

That said- Herro is faster with the ball and plays with more energy. This shots will start to fall. Herro is always engaged, while Quade at times has bad body language.

I'll go to battle w Herro right now, even while he works out of this shooting funk.

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

All I am saying way to early to give up on any of our players or the coaching staff.

No one is saying to give up on Herro, but it is time to start playing others players. Our SG is playing like hot garbage and needs some pine time.

The number 1 job of the SG is to hit shots...that is not happening and it is time to start others. Quade, Quickly, and Baker need run.

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

My response was dumb, and I apologize for that.

That said- Herro is faster with the ball and plays with more energy. This shots will start to fall. Herro is always engaged, while Quade at times has bad body language.

I'll go to battle w Herro right now, even while he works out of this shooting funk.

No apologies necessary....

Statistically speaking, Herro does nothing better than Quade. Looking at the basic and advance statistics clearly shows Quade is a better player and Quickly is not that far away from Herro as well.

Our shooting guard has stunk it up for 11 games thus far. His inability to hit shots only makes it more difficult for our interior guys to function.

A quarter of the season has passed...time to start others.

Not sure what all the love with Herro comes from. Hopefully it changes, but so far, he's been a liability and the bench is where he needs to be.

 

[UK90]

No apologies necessary....

Statistically speaking, Herro does nothing better than Quade. Looking at the basic and advance statistics clearly shows Quade is a better player and Quickly is not that far away from Herro as well.

Our shooting guard has stunk it up for 11 games thus far. His inability to hit shots only makes it more difficult for our interior guys to function.

A quarter of the season has passed...time to start others.

Not sure what all the love with Herro comes from. Hopefully it changes, but so far, he's been a liability and the bench is where he needs to be.

Well put. The Quade bashing on this thread ignores the fact that statistically he's doing better than our other guards.

Imagine how frustrated Quade must feel. He's clearly got the best shooting percentages of any of our guards, He's more experienced than any of our other guards. He got a ton of playing time last year. But this year Cal's got him buried behind three freshmen that can't hit the broad side of a barn from outside.

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

He was a descent player last year!

Think you're on to something. Started out ok but his level of play went down as the year progressed.

 

[HalHR2500]

Yeah, but he’s bringing a Bamba with him and the other elites want to play with him...

Yeah Cal bought that hook line and sinker

Greene doesn’t do much of anything well

 

[UK90]

Greene doesn’t do much of anything well

He shoots the three better than anyone else on this team.

And three point shooting is something this team desperately needs.

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

The upshot is in this thread.

Quade recruited to get Bamba.

As a productive pg, he has to control the ball but Cal doesn't allow that.

Quade wants to be the man, and tries to do too much, mostly to try and get more run.

He will always be a role player at UK and is never going to be preferred because he has ZERO NBA potential.

He has some shooting ability, is not athletic, and nothing more than average ability to defend.

He can get more PT somewhere else. He is not going to be rehabilitated. Whatever he was told to get him to stay, seems almost assuredly not to be occurring.

Nothing against him. He occasionally does some good things but will never consistently do so.

He will leave as he is not happy and the reasons for that are not going away.

BTW, using statistics to say he's better than Herro is just foolishness. You can see he clearly is not.

 

[Aike]

Well put. The Quade bashing on this thread ignores the fact that statistically he's doing better than our other guards.

Imagine how frustrated Quade must feel. He's clearly got the best shooting percentages of any of our guards, He's more experienced than any of our other guards. He got a ton of playing time last year. But this year Cal's got him buried behind three freshmen that can't hit the broad side of a barn from outside.

Quade has by far the worst assist/turnover ratio of the four guards who are splitting time. For someone who is supposed to be the experienced, steadying force, it’s unacceptable.

Quade’s A/TO ratio is 1, while the other 3 are all 1.5 or above. He also has more turnovers per game than the others, despite playing less minutes.

Quade has really played poorly. I would love for him to be able to play more, but he has to be a lot smarter with the ball.

 

[UK90]

Quade recruited to get Bamba.

You know, the guy was a five star recruit ranked 22nd in the nation.

Jeez, only at UK would fans act like a recruit ranked that high was just some throwaway recruit meant to lure someone else.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

Can you blame Quade? I mean, what has Herro done to deserve run? Herro can't play D (neither can Quade), turns the ball over frequently (as does Quade), and can't shoot.

Quade is probably looking at Herro and saying, I am the better shooter of the two and coach is sticking with the Great White Hope.

Why am I not surprised to see you make this a race thing

 

[turkeywildturkey]

or can he still be a factor this year? Just seems like he is halfway out the door to me. He was a descent player last year, just wondering is playing Green at SG and deep benching Herro at least for a couple of games maybe a solution.

Cal gotta do something!

He’s 9 games into his 2nd season. Should we just get it over with and shoot him? Geez, what an idiot.

 

[Burly]

Can you blame Quade? I mean, what has Herro done to deserve run? Herro can't play D (neither can Quade), turns the ball over frequently (as does Quade), and can't shoot.

Quade is probably looking at Herro and saying, I am the better shooter of the two and coach is sticking with the Great White Hope.

Look. Love having Green on the floor but his turnovers are crazy. You really need to look at a stat page and give your racist take a rest. Herro is struggling at one area 3pt shooting - he is shooting 55% inside the line 90% from FT line is ahead of Green in steals rebounds assist to turnover and block shots - you must hate Herro for a different reason - can't imagine why

 

[Mike-D]

Quade looks confused to me. Seems like he doesn’t know whether he’s a point guard or shooting guard. And I don’t mean confused as in he doesn’t know the game. Confused as in he doesn’t know what the coaches want from him.

Him consistently passing the ball to the other team, and taking dumbass shots means he doesn’t know what Cal wants from him? Probably to make shots and to pass the ball to his team. This is rocket science.

 

[Mike-D]

Him and Richards. Staff has done terrible job developing Richards.

I’ve never seen a staff develop hands for a kid. Dude should have never been recruited.