Is Nebraska the most over hyped program?

SoFL Husker

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Can't find your name on the roster, SoFa. Never see you post anything positive on here, as if you were a fan. How you can use the word "we"? No one would argue your right to use "I".

That would finish your last comment as "I pretty much suck".

WTF? Frost is 9-15 at Nebraska. I have a lot of hope for a REAL turnaround, with a strong pipeline of talent and real depth.

But who is more over-hyped than Nebraska?

You guys want to Sunshine Pump at every turn. Facts are facts.
 

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We are overhyped because we are a blue blood. To me, Notre Dame tops the list of overhyped. But then I have a different definition than just the preseason/closing polls. Basically, the media expects NU to return to form. We just haven't done it yet.

I would argue Notre Dame has played in more Big Games in the last 15 years, lost every one of them, but we havent' even been there. Just don't piss off the Sunshine Pumping gallery around here.
 

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I’d rather be overhyped Nebraska , than never looked at Iowa
This is honestly not a troll or a dig, although I fully admit it will sound like one.
Many say on this board that you are a "blue blood" program, can you explain why you think you are one? Yes I know you won multiple national championships (last in 1997 if I recall correct). But really what has happened since? I cannot speak for other Iowa fans, but I know we at Iowa are not a blue blood program. We are a pretty consistent 8-9 win program and are (for the most part) VERY happy with the kids Ferentz brings into the program and turns them into good solid football players. We don't get the 5 stars, rarely get the 4 stars, but we can pretty much compete with anyone who doesn't have Christian McCaffrey as a running back. Again, I enjoy college football and the smack talk between our programs, but honestly I do not see Nebraska as a blue blood anymore
 
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Nothing triggers Hawk trolls like the words “Nebraska is a blueblood”...RollingLaugh

it’s amusing that they still feel the need to come over here to tell us they don’t see Nebraska as a blueblood.....RollingLaugh

Nebraska is still a top 8 all time program, call it what you want, but the fact remains Iowa is not and never will be in any conversation about bluebloods or top 10 all time programs. RollingLaugh
 

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This is honestly not a troll or a dig, although I fully admit it will sound like one.
Many say on this board that you are a "blue blood" program, can you explain why you think you are one? Yes I know you won multiple national championships (last in 1997 if I recall correct). But really what has happened since? I cannot speak for other Iowa fans, but I know we at Iowa are not a blue blood program. We are a pretty consistent 8-9 win program and are (for the most part) VERY happy with the kids Ferentz brings into the program and turns them into good solid football players. We don't get the 5 stars, rarely get the 4 stars, but we can pretty much compete with anyone who doesn't have Christian McCaffrey as a running back. Again, I enjoy college football and the smack talk between our programs, but honestly I do not see Nebraska as a blue blood anymore

We admit we have fallen off pace the past decade, with one of our worst decades in our history, but how do lose blue blood status when your one of 7 schools that as won more than 900 games and still among the top 10 in winning percentage and one 7 schools that has played in the most bowl games..
 

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If you read my post I said Iowa is not a blue blood. I'm not triggered, I just like to understand your thinking. Nebraska does have a great history, I am not denying that. And I like college football and like to know the pulse of the fans on many of our rivals, such as the Clowns in Ames. If you want to think i'm triggered, by all means go for it, have a nice day
 

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We admit we have fallen off pace the past decade, with one of our worst decades in our history, but how do lose blue blood status when your one of 7 schools that as won more than 900 games and still among the top 10 in winning percentage and one 7 schools that has played in the most bowl games..



You left out those championships, you know, the ones iowa doesn't have! :D
 

Redscarlet

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You left out those championships, you know, the ones iowa doesn't have! :D

I felt that wasn’t necessary...But he failed to comment on my post..

Iowa been a 8-9 win program the last 5 years, but prior to 2015 they have won 9 games or more only 12 times through out their school history..
 

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I felt that wasn’t necessary...But he failed to comment on my post..

Iowa been a 8-9 win team the last 5 years, but prior to 2015 they have won 9 games or more only 12 times through out their school history..
Sorry, totally missed your reply
Mostly I commented on this thread because my wifes aunt is a Nebby fan and we like going at it, so this helps me get some insight to your football fanbase. I agree, Iowa had some pretty down years (that mostly I was not alive for I have to admit). The Iowa vs Nebby rivalry is fun, and it's good in my opinion for the B1G. I am not here to debate your past vs. Iowa's, i'm not dumb enough to think we will come out on top. My question is geared more towards the present day I guess.
 

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well he brought up the National Championships that we don't have. So I figured that a history of National Championships = blue bloods; so if that is the case, you HAVE to put Minnesota up there, don't you?
 
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In the present day, by Iowa fan standards means 2015 to present, Iowa has been the better team. Prior to 2015, Nebraska was the better team and program most years and it’s not close.
 

Redscarlet

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well he brought up the National Championships that we don't have. So I figured that a history of National Championships = blue bloods; so if that is the case, you HAVE to put Minnesota up there, don't you?

Do you realize Minnesota never won a bowl game to actually win a National title..

Have they won or share 46 conference titles?
 
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Minnesota is not considered a blueblood by any unbiased ranking, however, Minnesota is light years closer to blueblood status than Iowa. :)
 

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This is honestly not a troll or a dig, although I fully admit it will sound like one.
Many say on this board that you are a "blue blood" program, can you explain why you think you are one? Yes I know you won multiple national championships (last in 1997 if I recall correct). But really what has happened since? I cannot speak for other Iowa fans, but I know we at Iowa are not a blue blood program. We are a pretty consistent 8-9 win program and are (for the most part) VERY happy with the kids Ferentz brings into the program and turns them into good solid football players. We don't get the 5 stars, rarely get the 4 stars, but we can pretty much compete with anyone who doesn't have Christian McCaffrey as a running back. Again, I enjoy college football and the smack talk between our programs, but honestly I do not see Nebraska as a blue blood anymore

If you don't like seeing "Nebraska" and "blueblood" together, participation on the Nebraska message board is voluntary, not mandatory.

I don't like seeing all manner of Iowa, K-State, or UCF blather, therefore I don't spend time on their boards.

Nebraska is a college football blueblood by any measure. National titles, conference championships, overall wins.
 

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This is honestly not a troll or a dig, although I fully admit it will sound like one.
Many say on this board that you are a "blue blood" program, can you explain why you think you are one? Yes I know you won multiple national championships (last in 1997 if I recall correct). But really what has happened since? I cannot speak for other Iowa fans, but I know we at Iowa are not a blue blood program. We are a pretty consistent 8-9 win program and are (for the most part) VERY happy with the kids Ferentz brings into the program and turns them into good solid football players. We don't get the 5 stars, rarely get the 4 stars, but we can pretty much compete with anyone who doesn't have Christian McCaffrey as a running back. Again, I enjoy college football and the smack talk between our programs, but honestly I do not see Nebraska as a blue blood anymore
Easy peasy.
Name all the 'real' bluebloods iowa fan recognizes that have less overall wins than iowa?
Now really, I needn't finish this easy conclusion,right?
Now, for iowa fan, insert Nebraska for iowa
 
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NorthwoodHusker

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Or, just counting blueblood teams, has Nebraska beaten such teams for national championships, now add in total wins, conf titles etc,plus other natty wins.
 

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This is honestly not a troll or a dig, although I fully admit it will sound like one.
Many say on this board that you are a "blue blood" program, can you explain why you think you are one? Yes I know you won multiple national championships (last in 1997 if I recall correct). But really what has happened since? I cannot speak for other Iowa fans, but I know we at Iowa are not a blue blood program. We are a pretty consistent 8-9 win program and are (for the most part) VERY happy with the kids Ferentz brings into the program and turns them into good solid football players. We don't get the 5 stars, rarely get the 4 stars, but we can pretty much compete with anyone who doesn't have Christian McCaffrey as a running back. Again, I enjoy college football and the smack talk between our programs, but honestly I do not see Nebraska as a blue blood anymore
Blue blood is something gained over at least a generation or 2. Likewise it takes that long to lose it. Also Nebraska is still #8 in all time wins (even after these horrific 5 years and average 20 years. Still have 5 national championships still have 40+ conf championships.
I will agree, the status of blue blood is not forever just as MN know. However Nebraska is not even close to losing that title yet. If in 10 or 20 years we are still just average ok I will relinquish that title. Until then, the rest of the cry baby fan bases wishing they were a blue blood will just have to deal with it.
 

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Really have to ask here.
What is a modern day blue blood?

Does it consist of 10,20,30,40 or the last 50 years?

If someone from another school tells us we’re no longer a blue blood, what are their criteria of being a blue blood what do they measure it by?

I get Clemson,Alabama, Oklahoma,LSU and Ohio St being blue bloods but who else do they consider?
 
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NorthwoodHusker

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Really have to ask here.
What is a modern day blue blood?

Does it consist of 10,20,30,40 or the last 50 years?

If someone from another school tells us we’re no longer a blue blood, what are their criteria of being a blue blood what do they measure it by?

I get Clemson,Alabama, Oklahoma and Ohio St being blue bloods but who else do they consider?
Take Clemson off your list for first meeting a criteria
 

NorthwoodHusker

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Wise that? They have been in the top 10 in winning pct the last 20 years and have won 2 National titles.
No, twenty years? No,its like the front end of Nebraska's climb, Bobfather then beginning of TO.
If in ten years theyre winning a natty, then yes. Many teams have maintained top ten, oregon, who at one point won more than any team in cfb, but theyve yet to get a natty, let alone get one or more, sustain that high rating, then get a couple more, and thats where Clemsons at right now, needing a couple more.
 

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Every year we hear of this team or that team is always hyped up preseason and every year they under perform. So I dug into it to find out. Nothing to scientific. I simply took the the preseason AP ranking and compared it to the final AP rankings. If a team started or ended un ranked I assigned a 30 just for simplicity.
So essentially how many spots different the AP preseason was from the AP final rankings. So if pre season team A was ranked 3rd, and final ranking they were 20th that would be a - 17 difference or under performing. A 0 indicates right on or even comparing pre to final. A positive mean over performed.
What stuck out to me that when comparing preseason to final ranking over the course of 10 years it ends up being very very accurate.

10 year average from over performing/ under hyped to under performing/ over hyped

Baylor 3.8
Northwester 3.4
Missouri 3.2
Utah 2.7
Miss St 2.4
Clemson 2.4
Okla St 2.4
MN 2
Kentucky 1.8
K St 1.7
Colorado 1.3
Vanderbilt 1.3
Penn St .9
Syracuse .7
Maryland. 7
Duke .7
AZ .3
Virginia 0
Pitt 0
Boston College 0
Rutgers 0
Purdue 0
Mich St 0
Indiana 0
Illinois 0
Texas Tech 0
Kansas 0
Cal 0
Stanford 0
AZ st -.1
Iowa -.3
Louisville -.4
Notre Dame -.4
TCU -.4
LSU -.6
Wisc - .6
Georgia Tech -.6
Wake Forest -.7
Wash St -.7
South Car -.7
Ohio St -.8
Iowa St -.9
Texas AM -1
Oregon St -1.1
Ole Miss -1.1
Oregon -1.3
North Car -1.3
FL -1.4
West Virg -1.6
Arkansas -1.7
Alabama -2.1
Washington -2.2
Tennessee -2.2
Oklahoma -2.5
Miami -2.4
V Tech -2.7
UCLA -2.9
Mich -3
Texas -5.2
Georgia -5.3
USC -5.4
FL St -5.7
Neb -6
Also does it surprise anyone that Iowa pretty well averaged dead even and right where everyone thought they would preseason to post season. They are the easiest team to predict preseason. Everyone knows what Iowa football is.
 

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Also does it surprise anyone that Iowa pretty well averaged dead even and right where everyone thought they would preseason to post season. They are the easiest team to predict preseason. Everyone knows what Iowa football is.
We need back on that stage with typical past results/expectations.
And no, it's not a stage iowas familiar with, just the identity part.
 

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Also does it surprise anyone that Iowa pretty well averaged dead even and right where everyone thought they would preseason to post season. They are the easiest team to predict preseason. Everyone knows what Iowa football is.
 

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Every year we hear of this team or that team is always hyped up preseason and every year they under perform. So I dug into it to find out. Nothing to scientific. I simply took the the preseason AP ranking and compared it to the final AP rankings. If a team started or ended un ranked I assigned a 30 just for simplicity.
So essentially how many spots different the AP preseason was from the AP final rankings. So if pre season team A was ranked 3rd, and final ranking they were 20th that would be a - 17 difference or under performing. A 0 indicates right on or even comparing pre to final. A positive mean over performed.
What stuck out to me that when comparing preseason to final ranking over the course of 10 years it ends up being very very accurate.

10 year average from over performing/ under hyped to under performing/ over hyped

Baylor 3.8
Northwester 3.4
Missouri 3.2
Utah 2.7
Miss St 2.4
Clemson 2.4
Okla St 2.4
MN 2
Kentucky 1.8
K St 1.7
Colorado 1.3
Vanderbilt 1.3
Penn St .9
Syracuse .7
Maryland. 7
Duke .7
AZ .3
Virginia 0
Pitt 0
Boston College 0
Rutgers 0
Purdue 0
Mich St 0
Indiana 0
Illinois 0
Texas Tech 0
Kansas 0
Cal 0
Stanford 0
AZ st -.1
Iowa -.3
Louisville -.4
Notre Dame -.4
TCU -.4
LSU -.6
Wisc - .6
Georgia Tech -.6
Wake Forest -.7
Wash St -.7
South Car -.7
Ohio St -.8
Iowa St -.9
Texas AM -1
Oregon St -1.1
Ole Miss -1.1
Oregon -1.3
North Car -1.3
FL -1.4
West Virg -1.6
Arkansas -1.7
Alabama -2.1
Washington -2.2
Tennessee -2.2
Oklahoma -2.5
Miami -2.4
V Tech -2.7
UCLA -2.9
Mich -3
Texas -5.2
Georgia -5.3
USC -5.4
FL St -5.7
Neb -6

Nope, without a doubt that goes to TexAss. They can go 3-9 and still be ranked Top 10 the very next season.
 

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To be fair, they usually have one of the top-rated recruiting classes.

I think that’s just it too. That’s got to be why they assume TexAss is about to jump. I think that’s why some are seeing us as a Top 25ish team. Back to back Top 15-17 recruiting classes and a bunch of returning talent.
 

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I think that’s just it too. That’s got to be why they assume TexAss is about to jump. I think that’s why some are seeing us as a Top 25ish team. Back to back Top 15-17 recruiting classes and a bunch of returning talent.
Just remember, they included projected production from redshirts who played little or not at all, plus this years potential class.
If they've never played, they assign values regardless,preseason right? It's a power index
 

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Do you realize Minnesota never won a bowl game to actually win a National title..

Have they won or share 46 conference titles?
I'm not going to hold the standards of the era against Minnesota.

Someday in the future, when there's a 16-team playoff, people will look back at all of Nebraska's titles and say, "Can you believe that Nebraska never actually had to win a playoff game to win a National Championship?". Should that discount their titles? I think we'd both agree that it should not.
 

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I'm not going to hold the standards of the era against Minnesota.

Someday in the future, when there's a 16-team playoff, people will look back at all of Nebraska's titles and say, "Can you believe that Nebraska never actually had to win a playoff game to win a National Championship?". Should that discount their titles? I think we'd both agree that it should not.
Wel no, they'll be still saying, you know,iowas still never played in the playoffs
 

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The Huskers' hype is that they'll be around #20-#25 and we under-deliver.

USC's hype is that they'll be top 5 or even #1 and then they end up going .500
Nobody aside from Nebraska fans considers being ranked 22nd "hype". Noone outside of Nebraska, besides maybe Iowa fans, cares who the 22nd ranked team is.
 

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Every year we hear of this team or that team is always hyped up preseason and every year they under perform. So I dug into it to find out. Nothing to scientific. I simply took the the preseason AP ranking and compared it to the final AP rankings. If a team started or ended un ranked I assigned a 30 just for simplicity.
So essentially how many spots different the AP preseason was from the AP final rankings. So if pre season team A was ranked 3rd, and final ranking they were 20th that would be a - 17 difference or under performing. A 0 indicates right on or even comparing pre to final. A positive mean over performed.
What stuck out to me that when comparing preseason to final ranking over the course of 10 years it ends up being very very accurate.

10 year average from over performing/ under hyped to under performing/ over hyped

Baylor 3.8
Northwester 3.4
Missouri 3.2
Utah 2.7
Miss St 2.4
Clemson 2.4
Okla St 2.4
MN 2
Kentucky 1.8
K St 1.7
Colorado 1.3
Vanderbilt 1.3
Penn St .9
Syracuse .7
Maryland. 7
Duke .7
AZ .3
Virginia 0
Pitt 0
Boston College 0
Rutgers 0
Purdue 0
Mich St 0
Indiana 0
Illinois 0
Texas Tech 0
Kansas 0
Cal 0
Stanford 0
AZ st -.1
Iowa -.3
Louisville -.4
Notre Dame -.4
TCU -.4
LSU -.6
Wisc - .6
Georgia Tech -.6
Wake Forest -.7
Wash St -.7
South Car -.7
Ohio St -.8
Iowa St -.9
Texas AM -1
Oregon St -1.1
Ole Miss -1.1
Oregon -1.3
North Car -1.3
FL -1.4
West Virg -1.6
Arkansas -1.7
Alabama -2.1
Washington -2.2
Tennessee -2.2
Oklahoma -2.5
Miami -2.4
V Tech -2.7
UCLA -2.9
Mich -3
Texas -5.2
Georgia -5.3
USC -5.4
FL St -5.7
Neb -6
If not the top very near it. I support Frost and want so much for him to succeed but if he goes through another 4 win season this year God help him and us. Neb wants to win and are paying salaries and dumping money into facilities that show that commitment. The natives will become very, very restless if we suck this year. Part of that is the hype we get from the Media. Unrealistic expectations? Maybe. It’s not an internship though. We are paying the staff to win NOW.
 

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If not the top very near it. I support Frost and want so much for him to succeed but if he goes through another 4 win season this year God help him and us. Neb wants to win and are paying salaries and dumping money into facilities that show that commitment. The natives will become very, very restless if we suck this year. Part of that is the hype we get from the Media. Unrealistic expectations? Maybe. It’s not an internship though. We are paying the staff to win NOW.
I know some are ok with 6 and bowl. I think it is probably going to have be 7 for the majority of husker nation to take a sigh and say ok things are heading in the right direction.