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ShrubDog

ShrubDog

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Careful, some don't think anything fishy goes on in pro sports.

Only time will tell if this is a good move. I don't think having a pro team is LV really that fishy and dont see what difference it makes. But I do see where you are coming from.
 
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paindonthurt_

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I never get this argument. It's not like teams force owners to build a stadium.

They do what every other large business does. They go where there are incentives. It's either a win/win or it's not. If it's not a win/win one or both sides should walk away.
 
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johnson86-1

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paindonthurt said:
I never get this argument. It's not like teams force owners to build a stadium.

They do what every other large business does. They go where there are incentives. It's either a win/win or it's not. If it's not a win/win one or both sides should walk away.
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That ignores the incentives faced by the city officials signing up to provide these subsidies. The benefits of the stadium are concentrated. They flow to the hard core fans, the local paper (who gets to add/keep local sports coverage), and local business men who will feed off events at the stadium. But the costs are dispersed. If the city officials walk away because it's a bad deal for the city (which it almost always is), they get hammered by the people that would have received the benefits, but they get no credit from the much larger group of people who would have been negatively impacted.

It's just a public choice problem. No different than many other crony deals; they're just particularly visible.
 
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UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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johnson86-1 said:
That ignores the incentives faced by the city officials signing up to provide these subsidies. The benefits of the stadium are concentrated. They flow to the hard core fans, the local paper (who gets to add/keep local sports coverage), and local business men who will feed off events at the stadium. But the costs are dispersed. If the city officials walk away because it's a bad deal for the city (which it almost always is), they get hammered by the people that would have received the benefits, but they get no credit from the much larger group of people who would have been negatively impacted.

It's just a public choice problem. No different than many other crony deals; they're just particularly visible.
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Actually, the officials get hammered most by the fans, albeit they're getting roused up by the business guys. Just look at what happened to the mayor of Seattle after the SuperSonics left. Not saying it was the only reason he was voted out, but there aren't many local politicians who would get elected on a platform of letting a team leave. Hell, some of the biggest crapholes in this country have multiple major sports teams.
 
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LTblows

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As a Seattle resident, I can confirm that the locals are still very bitter about losing the Sonics. You piss off people with a long memory for a long, long time.
 
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