I am not criticizing really, $3.8m? Im happy with that, i just want a final report.
Is Durham still alive?
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No leaks means no one really knows who the targets of his investigation really are. That's good for the integrity of the investigation. Looks like his team is collecting evidence and quietly calling people in for interviews. No 0500 raids with SWAT teams and CNN in tow. Mueller's team leaked like a sinking ship and did the opposite. Shows he was more about a political goal than justice. You might not like that answer but it's true.
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You're enemies want you to lose faith in our institutions. Crooked politicians don't help with that perception. They develop propaganda to lather you up to the point you want you to otherthrow them. So they can put you under the prison. Don't go down that road.
I have suggested a better road that requires hard work. Chose wisely.
You're enemies want you to lose faith in our institutions. Crooked politicians don't help with that perception. They develop propaganda to lather you up to the point you want you to otherthrow them. So they can put you under the prison. Don't go down that road.
I have suggested a better road that requires hard work. Chose wisely.
We don't disagree. However, people have to know that the corruption is unprecedented. The Democrat party (read swamp/elite) wants to destroy all our institutions so they will retain power to change the America as we know it. They are willing to lie, cheat, break laws and violate the Constitution to do it. It's happening. People need to be aware of that fact.
That's exactly what you accused Nunes of doing and precisely why you rejected his findings. Turns out he was 100% correct yet to this day you STILL refuse to accept it!
FISA abuses documented. Illegal spying on Trump's campaign documented. False evidence used to secure an illegal surveillance on an innocent American documented. Yet here you are worried about Durham feigning interest in his possible discovery of illegal activity?
You couldn't be more disingenuous if you were actually trying to be a phony. So you can stop now, you've made your point.
Exactly. And NOTHING is stopping them. People need to be concerned. It’s not a conspiracy or overreacting.
Ah, but now we are going back to the “one side is evil and deepstate”, and the other? To me, logically, it only makes sense if both parties are in on it.
I never said you shouldn't be critical. I said you shouldn't break the law. Don't get sucked into it. I can't be any clearer than that.
If you’ve followed anything I’ve ever posted, you would know I’ve always said both parties are responsible for this mess. They couldn’t get away with it otherwise
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Like I said. You should be critical. Just choose how you do it more carefully is my advice. One person who was arrested on Jan 6 claims his social media was only a L.A.R.P.
They don't take your word for it. They did deeper.
Like I said. You should be critical. Just choose how you do it more carefully is my advice. One person who was arrested on Jan 6 claims his social media was only a L.A.R.P.
They don't take your word for it. They did deeper.
Reading his posts in this thread I'm not sure if I should laugh or throw up? He wants Durham to "hurry up" and get to the bottom of his investigation yet he ignores all of the investigated proven evidence of the three year totally made up, fake, fabricated, bought-and-paid-for illegal scam perpetrated onto this country by his friends on the Left accusing Trump of the very "collusion" they were in fact the sponsors of!A relativists talking about "truth".
time to throw up...
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The next step is indicting Hillbag cronies... Not certain he wants that.Reading his posts in this thread I'm not sure if I should laugh or throw up? He wants Durham to "hurry up" and get to the bottom of his investigation yet he ignores all of the investigated proven evidence of the three year totally made up, fake, fabricated, bought-and-paid-for illegal scam perpetrated onto this country by his friends on the Left accusing Trump of the very "collusion" they were in fact the sponsors of!
time to throw up...
Boomer is not interested in anything except making sure he shares no blame for the damage his Leftist cohorts have done to this country. I'm ignoring his phony concern over Durham's investigation.
Sure. I have no loyalty to ANY of them: Clinton, Obama, Trump. I wont be voting for any of those names btw.
Oh is that so??? Well then do tell us who your current loyalties lie with "nowhere man"?
"Doesn't have a point of view...knows not where he's going to"
Damn that is such a perfect song for you!
Hey @Boomboom521 ...since we "partisans" can obviously learn from your mastery of being "above the political fray" why don't you tell us who your favorite current political leaders are or at least who has your 'loyalty' and what two or three issues set them above us mere plebes which just happened to capture your exalted understanding beyond the pedestrian partisan rhetoric the rest of us are so hopelessly bogged down in?
Can you?
Can you?
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Think 'ol @Boomboom521 will ever bring us up to his level and tell us who our political loyalties should lie with next election cycle?
Today, Special Counsel John Durham provided a “discovery Update” to the court in the Michael Sussmann case. In this filing, available here, he disclosed that his team has obtained a tremendous amount of information ranging from a variety of sources – including Perkins Coie, the Hillary Clinton Campaign, and former DNC/Clinton lawyer Mark Elias.
While Sussmann has been charged with giving false statements to then-FBI General Counsel James Baker regarding the Alfa Bank/Trump Organization hoax (background here), Durham notes that the “Government also maintains an active, ongoing criminal investigation of” Sussmann’s conduct.
In other words, Sussmann’s criminal conduct likely is not limited to false statements. There is more. If we are to make an educated guess, it may have to do with the conspiracy to accuse the Trump Organization of having secret back-channel communications with Alfa Bank. We discussed the potential for a conspiracy charge here.
Now, to the evidence. Durham and his team have secured grand jury testimony from the following individuals:
- Former Perkins Coie partner, and DNC/Hillary Clinton lawyer Marc Elias.
- Former FBI General Counsel James Baker
- Current CIA employees
- Former FBI General Counsel James Baker
- More than 24 other current and former FBI employees.
- Current and former employees of the CIA and DARPA.
- 12 Employees of the “internet companies” referenced in the Sussmann indictment.
- The former chairman of DNC/Clinton law firm Perkins Coie.
- A former employee of the Clinton campaign.
- Current and former employees of Georgia Tech (involved in the Alfa Hoax).
- An employee of “Tech Executive-1” – aka Rodney Joffe, a Sussmann client who assisted with the Alfa Bank hoax.
- The Hillary Clinton Campaign
- Perkins Coie
- Hillary for America
- Fusion GPS
- A PR Firm that advised Perkins Coie regarding public statements about Sussmann’s meeting with James Baker.
- Phone logs for numerous current and former FBI employees.
- “a classified memorandum and related reports of interviews pertaining to a criminal investigation previously conducted by the U.S. Department of Justice regarding a potential leak of classified information”
- He also has secured nearly 400 e-mails between the FBI and Perkins Coie from January 2016 through June 2017.
And it leads us to believe that Durham is focused on something more substantial than the false Alfa Bank allegations - perhaps the inception of it all: the claim of Russian hacking. As we have said before, consider the possibility that evidence of “Russian hacking” was placed by the DNC, Perkins Coie, et al. for Crowdstrike to conveniently “find.”
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So...you're WRONG. Usually you are, yet when it's proven to you time and time again you either disappear with nothing else to say or worse, you simply refuse to admit it!
You've done it on the Nunes memo (I recently posted the proven facts on it and asked you to show what was false when you insisted it was all politically motivated fabrication) WRONG!
You've done it on the illegal FISA warrants (it's been proven the Steele dossier was completely fake and was in fact the only evidence unlawfully presented to the FISA Court to obtain warrants to illegally spy on members of the Trump campaign) WRONG!
You've done it on the masks (I recently posted detailed studies proving they do not prevent the spread of Covid viral pathogens when you insisted they do) WRONG!
Now you're doing it on the Durham investigation (it's been proven he's pursuing criminal activity related to the DNC/Hillary inspired Russian collusion conspiracy and all you've done is scoff at it) WRONG!
You have yet to recognize your blatant errors in all of these stories and many, many more. You in fact NEVER admit when you are proven wrong, you just move onto the next "relativist" position you can take so as not to be held accountable for your gross miscalculations or outright false assumptions all the while promoting yourself as someone only interested in pursuing the facts or discovering the Truth.
You're nothing but a dishonest, insincere, Leftist, partisan hack doing exactly as you accuse others of being.
So......
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6. Wait! WHAT?
Near the end of the special counsel’s 19-page discovery update and extension request came the fifth takeaway: something strange is going on in the Office of Inspector General.
According to yesterday’s filing, on December 17, 2021, the OIG provided the special counsel’s office a written forensic report concerning a “cyber-related matter” that Sussmann had told an OIG special agent in charge about. Specifically, in early 2017, Sussmann told the OIG agent that one of his “clients had observed that a specific OIG employee’s computer was ‘seen publicly’ in ‘Internet traffic’ and was connecting to a Virtual Private Network in a foreign country.”
When the OIG office provided Durham’s team the “forensic report,” it represented “that it had ‘no other file[] or other documentation’ relating to this cyber matter.”
However, one week ago, Sussmann’s attorneys informed Durham’s team that Sussmann had, in fact, personally met with the DOJ’s inspector general in March 2017, when he passed on the tip about the OIG employee’s connection to a foreign VPN. While Sussmann had not told the OIG his client’s name at the time, last week his lawyers informed Durham’s team that it was Tech Executive-1, i.e., Joffe, who had discovered the OIG employee’s computer connecting to a VPN in a foreign country.
So many questions! First, why did the OIG not inform the special counsel’s office that Sussmann had met with both the inspector general and his then-general counsel? And why did the OIG falsely represent that there was no “further documentation”? Sure, it could have been accidental, but given that Durham’s attorneys publicly exposed this “mistake,” it suggests something more is afoot.
Upon learning this news, Durham’s team promptly contacted the OIG again and learned, for the first time, that Sussmann had met with both the inspector general and his then-general counsel in March 2017 about the above-described cyber matter. Since then, including over this last weekend, the OIG has been providing further documentation related to that meeting to the special counsel’s office.
Then there is the question of the veracity of the claim and what happens to the investigation. Was there really an OIG employee connecting on a foreign VPN? Who was it? Why? Did the OIG ever find out?
What about Joffe: How in the world did he discover the OIG employee’s computer connecting to a VPN in a foreign country? Was Joffe monitoring other government computers? How? Why? Was anyone else involved? Who knew?
https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/26/6-new-revelation
Near the end of the special counsel’s 19-page discovery update and extension request came the fifth takeaway: something strange is going on in the Office of Inspector General.
According to yesterday’s filing, on December 17, 2021, the OIG provided the special counsel’s office a written forensic report concerning a “cyber-related matter” that Sussmann had told an OIG special agent in charge about. Specifically, in early 2017, Sussmann told the OIG agent that one of his “clients had observed that a specific OIG employee’s computer was ‘seen publicly’ in ‘Internet traffic’ and was connecting to a Virtual Private Network in a foreign country.”
When the OIG office provided Durham’s team the “forensic report,” it represented “that it had ‘no other file[] or other documentation’ relating to this cyber matter.”
However, one week ago, Sussmann’s attorneys informed Durham’s team that Sussmann had, in fact, personally met with the DOJ’s inspector general in March 2017, when he passed on the tip about the OIG employee’s connection to a foreign VPN. While Sussmann had not told the OIG his client’s name at the time, last week his lawyers informed Durham’s team that it was Tech Executive-1, i.e., Joffe, who had discovered the OIG employee’s computer connecting to a VPN in a foreign country.
So many questions! First, why did the OIG not inform the special counsel’s office that Sussmann had met with both the inspector general and his then-general counsel? And why did the OIG falsely represent that there was no “further documentation”? Sure, it could have been accidental, but given that Durham’s attorneys publicly exposed this “mistake,” it suggests something more is afoot.
Upon learning this news, Durham’s team promptly contacted the OIG again and learned, for the first time, that Sussmann had met with both the inspector general and his then-general counsel in March 2017 about the above-described cyber matter. Since then, including over this last weekend, the OIG has been providing further documentation related to that meeting to the special counsel’s office.
Then there is the question of the veracity of the claim and what happens to the investigation. Was there really an OIG employee connecting on a foreign VPN? Who was it? Why? Did the OIG ever find out?
What about Joffe: How in the world did he discover the OIG employee’s computer connecting to a VPN in a foreign country? Was Joffe monitoring other government computers? How? Why? Was anyone else involved? Who knew?
https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/26/6-new-revelation
You never get to the Truth when the folks hiding from it start telling their lies. All you get is more lies while they cover over the ones they told trying to hide the Truth.
For this reason alone (Woods files) that FISA warrant should never have been approved. NEVER! Nunes memo spells this out and more...but some Leftists have tunnel vision when it comes to protecting our Constitutional rights to privacy and against unreasonable searches.
These leftists are insane. As someone pointed out to me recently, at this point, they are no longer just misinformed. Unless intellectually disabled, they are willing conspirators who agree totally with the dismantling of our freedoms and everything about America. There is just no way anyone with a fully functioning brain could think the current state of the far left agenda is the correct pathway for our country. As Reagan famously stated, “I did not leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left me.”. For me, that occurred sometime around 2010 or 2011.For this reason alone (Woods files) that FISA warrant should never have been approved. NEVER! Nunes memo spells this out and more...but some Leftists have tunnel vision when it comes to protecting our Constitutional rights to privacy and against unreasonable searches.
They are diabolical, dishonest, and they hate the country. Why I have no idea, but I suspect it has something to do with with their disbelief and hatred for things of Almighty God. Remember who our Founders gave credit to for creation of the nation? Atheist Leftists totally reject that, and in fact hate that. That's why they are constantly trying to undermine America or better yet for them...destroy it. Trying to destroy our foundations or allegiance to Almighty God...and for them substitute the State (themselves).
What other reason can you imagine for their absolute hatred of this glorious land?
A little slow ? I'd say 2000 I had one foot out the door & have been dragging the other out since then