Iowa NET ranking before the game was 21. So very good win for RU.
Also Sagarin had Iowa at #16.
Need to win at Minnesota. Go RU!
Also Sagarin had Iowa at #16.
Need to win at Minnesota. Go RU!
Iowa's Net Ranking - Good Win for RU
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Should get us into the 90s finally. The next four game are key before a brutal stretch run. One game at a time.
@ MN Quad 2
vs. Maryland Quad 3
@ Nebraska Quad 3
@ NW Quad 2
Need to beat Maryland/Nebraska (Nebraska actually has the potential to be Q4 by the end of the year. Need that bad) and win one of MN/NW
vs. Maryland Quad 3
@ Nebraska Quad 3
@ NW Quad 2
Need to beat Maryland/Nebraska (Nebraska actually has the potential to be Q4 by the end of the year. Need that bad) and win one of MN/NW
According to bart.......punching holes in it accepted....
Win the next 3 and we are exactly on the bubble. Right now it says we are 1 win below the bubble (which really hurts!).
Win the next 3 and we are exactly on the bubble. Right now it says we are 1 win below the bubble (which really hurts!).
We lost to Lafayette. We loss to UMass. Our SOS ooc is terrible. These are huge anchors on the resume
It will be extremely tough to get into the top 40
Really need to win 3 of these to continue postive momentum otherwise there is enormous pressure to win out at home
One game at a time tho
We continue to play as we have since Clemson and the 3 losses in 9 days in November will carry less and less weight.
Yes they pull your ranking down, especially the inexplicable Lafayette loss, but the season still in front of these guys and those November losses won’t stop us from reaching our goals.
Yes they pull your ranking down, especially the inexplicable Lafayette loss, but the season still in front of these guys and those November losses won’t stop us from reaching our goals.
Rutgers will have an extremely unique resume and will be one of the most scandalous bubble schools in the discussion
They need to keep winning
Get NET in 80s
Get a few Quad 1 wins in Feb and will end in 60s
Those 3 bad losses now 20 percent of total
End of season will be 10 percent
Seems like there should be a “progression metric” to account for teams that play better as the season progresses.
RU is playing like a top 30-40 team. Sucks that 2 losses so early in the season are still costing us 65+ spots in the NET.
Yeah i think our net could be in the high 50s at best even at 12-8 in league play but we should have a bunch of quality wins in there
It always been about body of work. The selection committee considers out of conference performance and scheduling important. Unfortunately Rutgers really **** the bed OOC
Rutgers passes the eye test and this is where human judgment plays a role. However Rutgers has given the committee reasons to keep them out if they are 17-14 or even 18-14
At home for sure. I dont fear any game left at the RAC. Can they translate that on the road to Indiana or Michigan
Man I hope we make the decision easier by winning 18 or 19. Not playing Rider could really hurt if it’s that close.
This is the path of success
#105 Rutgers (11-6) Q1 2-2 Q2 2-2 Q3 1-1 Q4 6-1
3 Q3s left must wins- vs #111 Maryland, @ #200 Nebraska, vs #85 PSU(might be Q2, 75 or less, when we play them at the end of the season, which would move the Q2 road loss to a Q1)
(14-6) Q1 2-2 Q2 2-2 Q3 4-1 Q4 6-1
2 Q2 left, must wins- @ #84 Minnesota(lost 4 straight), @ #81 Northwestern(lost 5 of last 6) as long as they both don't drop below NET 135, should stay Q2s) They are who we thought they were in the preseason.
(16-6) Q1 2-2 Q2 4-2 Q3 4-1 Q4 6-1
8 Q1 left- vs MSU, vs OSU, @ Wisc, vs Illinois, @ Purdue, @ Michigan, vs Wisconsin, @ Indiana.
We win all our home games, we're in. We go 3-5, we are in.
(20-10)6-6 4-2 4-1 6-1 or (19-11) 5-7 4-2 4-1 6-1 will do it
@ Wisc #17, @ Purdue #7, @ Michigan #53, @ Indiana #33 will stay Q1s
Vs MSU #24, vs OSU #22, vs Illinois #11, vs Wisc #17, one may slip to Q2
But shouldn't impact overall resume 5-6, 5-2 or 4-7, 5-2
Pike vs Q1 B1Gs
vs Michigan St 1-7(-28R, -10H, -4R, -11H, -11R, -12R, -23R, *+30H*) H1-2
Vs OSU 2-7(-6R, *+9H*, -22H, -27R, *+3H*, -14R, -6R, -12R, -11H) H2-2
(4 game losing streak)
@ Wisconsin 2-5(-20R, -7H(OT), *+4H*, -5R, *+7H*, -8R, -6H) R 0-3
Vs Illinois 3-6(*+3H*, -31R, -13H, -5R(OT), -3R, *+15H*, *+3H*, -22N, -35R) H3-1
@ Purdue 4-5(-19R, -31R, -2H, -7H, -35R, *+7H*, *+3R(OT)*, *+5H*, *+2H*) R1-3
(Won 4 straight)
@ Michigan 1-6(-4H, -15R, -12H, -6N, -8H, -7R, *+8H*) R 0-2
Vs Wisconsin H2-2
@ Indiana 6-3(-19R, -22H, *+7H*, *+8H*, -16R, *+9H*, *+4R*, *+11H*, *+11N*) R1-2
(Won 6 of last 7)
We've never won @ Michigan(-15, -7) and @ Wisconsin(-20, -5, -8), but if we mark them down like we did home vs Michigan 0-2, now 1-2, and home vs Iowa 1-3, now 2-3. I think this team is capable given our past results there. I'm not doubting what this team is capable of given our results against 2 of the top offenses in all of college basketball, Purdue and Iowa, and rooting for teams like DePaul winning games in the Big East, Clemson in the ACC, and UMass in the A10 will help. The 6-1 Q4s are going no where.
#105 Rutgers (11-6) Q1 2-2 Q2 2-2 Q3 1-1 Q4 6-1
3 Q3s left must wins- vs #111 Maryland, @ #200 Nebraska, vs #85 PSU(might be Q2, 75 or less, when we play them at the end of the season, which would move the Q2 road loss to a Q1)
(14-6) Q1 2-2 Q2 2-2 Q3 4-1 Q4 6-1
2 Q2 left, must wins- @ #84 Minnesota(lost 4 straight), @ #81 Northwestern(lost 5 of last 6) as long as they both don't drop below NET 135, should stay Q2s) They are who we thought they were in the preseason.
(16-6) Q1 2-2 Q2 4-2 Q3 4-1 Q4 6-1
8 Q1 left- vs MSU, vs OSU, @ Wisc, vs Illinois, @ Purdue, @ Michigan, vs Wisconsin, @ Indiana.
We win all our home games, we're in. We go 3-5, we are in.
(20-10)6-6 4-2 4-1 6-1 or (19-11) 5-7 4-2 4-1 6-1 will do it
@ Wisc #17, @ Purdue #7, @ Michigan #53, @ Indiana #33 will stay Q1s
Vs MSU #24, vs OSU #22, vs Illinois #11, vs Wisc #17, one may slip to Q2
But shouldn't impact overall resume 5-6, 5-2 or 4-7, 5-2
Pike vs Q1 B1Gs
vs Michigan St 1-7(-28R, -10H, -4R, -11H, -11R, -12R, -23R, *+30H*) H1-2
Vs OSU 2-7(-6R, *+9H*, -22H, -27R, *+3H*, -14R, -6R, -12R, -11H) H2-2
(4 game losing streak)
@ Wisconsin 2-5(-20R, -7H(OT), *+4H*, -5R, *+7H*, -8R, -6H) R 0-3
Vs Illinois 3-6(*+3H*, -31R, -13H, -5R(OT), -3R, *+15H*, *+3H*, -22N, -35R) H3-1
@ Purdue 4-5(-19R, -31R, -2H, -7H, -35R, *+7H*, *+3R(OT)*, *+5H*, *+2H*) R1-3
(Won 4 straight)
@ Michigan 1-6(-4H, -15R, -12H, -6N, -8H, -7R, *+8H*) R 0-2
Vs Wisconsin H2-2
@ Indiana 6-3(-19R, -22H, *+7H*, *+8H*, -16R, *+9H*, *+4R*, *+11H*, *+11N*) R1-2
(Won 6 of last 7)
We've never won @ Michigan(-15, -7) and @ Wisconsin(-20, -5, -8), but if we mark them down like we did home vs Michigan 0-2, now 1-2, and home vs Iowa 1-3, now 2-3. I think this team is capable given our past results there. I'm not doubting what this team is capable of given our results against 2 of the top offenses in all of college basketball, Purdue and Iowa, and rooting for teams like DePaul winning games in the Big East, Clemson in the ACC, and UMass in the A10 will help. The 6-1 Q4s are going no where.
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Interesting to see St John's just above us, when they are 0-5 vs Q1, zero games in Q2, 3-0 in Q3, and 7-1 in Q4. Who is their best win right now? Either the home win vs. Monmouth or the home win vs. DePaul. Wow. Clearly they have better opponents coming up to build their resume.
Point being, even with us having a few very strong wins now, the two worst losses are really dragging that computer ranking. Hopefully the committee also takes the Geo injury into account when discussing Lafayette and UMass - assuming we keep winning enough for them to have to discuss us.
Would the committee take any of the intangibles into account? Weren't we battling Covid during Lafayette and/or UMass within the program? Were we missing Baker during either of those due to injury? Etc. UMass we had a 17-point lead in the second half, on the road, and only lost on a buzzer-beater
I know I just railed on a guy in another thread for just looking at a computer rating and saying it sucks… but the NET sucks.
@ Nebraska really a possible Q4??
You are going to have to say this a thousand more times and it's still not going to sink in for a lot of people
I get the desire to do this forward-looking analysis. It's fun and I get that, for many, looking ahead towards the tournament is part of their excitement during the season (although it's a pretty new thing for current RU MBB fans).
I obviously want the team to make the tournament. But, for me, making the tournament is not any kind of determinant for my greatly enjoying the season. This has been a very fun, very exciting season so far. I expect it will continue to be so given the nature of the team this season.
Just seems to me that letting the tournament be the decider for the whole season is an easy recipe for disappointment that can take away the joy and excitement of experiencing each game on it's own merit.
Put another way, we know we're going to lose more games. Maybe we'll lose too many to get into the tournament. But, for me, I'm going to enjoy every game we're competitive in, win or lose (although winning is more enjoyable, duh). And if we happen to win enough to make the tournament, that's the icing on the cake.
But it will never be, for me, the whole cake.
Which is a good thing considering how long RU has gone without the cake.
I obviously want the team to make the tournament. But, for me, making the tournament is not any kind of determinant for my greatly enjoying the season. This has been a very fun, very exciting season so far. I expect it will continue to be so given the nature of the team this season.
Just seems to me that letting the tournament be the decider for the whole season is an easy recipe for disappointment that can take away the joy and excitement of experiencing each game on it's own merit.
Put another way, we know we're going to lose more games. Maybe we'll lose too many to get into the tournament. But, for me, I'm going to enjoy every game we're competitive in, win or lose (although winning is more enjoyable, duh). And if we happen to win enough to make the tournament, that's the icing on the cake.
But it will never be, for me, the whole cake.
Which is a good thing considering how long RU has gone without the cake.
Nebraska is the worst team in the league by a wide margin. Did you not watch the game at the RAC? They blow
They're currently 201 NET. If they implode they could drop past 240 by the end of the season
Geo played in that Lafayette game before getting hurt. I really dont think anyone gets a pass for not beating Lafayette at home. Yes they could consider not having Geo at Umass but I dont think they give much slack when you are losing to horrible teams.
we didnt have covid for those games.
I think the Big 10 sos will keep them afloat plus I think they get a couple wins eventually..hopefully not us...we absolutely cannot lose to them if we want to have a decent NET
Lafayette loss far worse because it was a home game against a horrendous opponent.
Worst team in the league for sure. It's still most likely NOT going to be a Q4 game. I watched the game lol. Do you know what a Q4 game is? You're the one lost here