IowaLaw's Objective Post Game Report: Oregon

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That one stung! Once again, the Hawks hung in there from start to finish against a Top 10 opponent, and once again miscues and defensive lapses simply let them down. The Hawks lose 18-16 on a game they led with 1:00 to go and really should have won. Kinnick magic wasn't enough and the Hawks have now lost 12 straight against ranked opponents (but hey, they sure do beat up on the Minnesotas and Northwesterns of the world). This will go down as another "what could have been" season where too much randying around in key moments was their downfall.

1. Running Backs Coach Must Go. As has been a theme from IowaLaw, the personnel decisions at RB are an absolute joke. While Oregon had all 3 of their backs with 7+ carries and 50+ yards rushing, the Hawks opted to leave their talented fresh legs on the bench the entire game. They put all their eggs in the Kamari Moulton basket. The favorite child somehow had 23 carries despite a clear inability to hit the homerun or break an arm tackle. Despite tough tackling conditions that made Oregon's backs look like superstars, Moulton, behind his elite OL, managed just 3.8 yards per carry against a defense that ranks in the lower half of the Big 10 rush defenses. Jaz Patterson, who is fully healthy, saw just TWO carries the entire game. Why?? Jaz gave the Hawks a hard running spark gaining 5 yards each time he touched the ball, and Williams got just 3 carries. I'm sorry, but Moulton has shown nothing that merits receiving 90% of the team's rushing attempts (while he's 7th in the Big 10 in carries, he ranks 20th in yards per carry and 9th in yards per game).

2. D-Line Struggles. Iowa's DLine has been a strength this year. Not against Oregon. Although Dante Moore passed the ball 21 times, he took 0 hits, had 0 pressures, and 0 sacks. Worse yet, those RBs sliced right through our DLine's arm tackles, each averaging 6.5 yards every time they touched the ball (and their QB averaged 12 yards per carry). Llewellyn was the lone bright spot out there with a nice pass deflection and 5 tackles, but given the struggles of the LBs and S this year, the DL needed to come up a lot stronger than they did.

3. Tight Ends Finally Step Up. Iowa waived goodbye to the title of Tight End University when they hired Tim Lester, who doesn't seem to prioritize tight ends (or passing in general). But against Oregon, Vonnahame & Large stepped up and showed soft hands. They totaled 4 catches for 66 yards, accounting for half of Iowa's receiving yards. Both are 2 star recruits from small town Iowa, so it's still disappointing how far Iowa's tight end recruiting has dropped off under Abdul Hodge, who has now been with the program for 3 1/2 years and has guided the decline in Iowa's tight end talent/production.

4. Head Scratching Special Teams. Kudos to Drew Stevens for stepping up in a major way and hitting a 58 yard bomb in windy and rainy conditions in a close game. The kid came to play. But the punting game was atrocious, both with the awful snaps but also with the weak legged punts averaging just 40 yards and never flipping the field like we've been accustomed to. Then there's Iowa's lone offensive weapon Wetjen, who looked like a super star returning punts when the Hawks lead by 30 against lesser opponents. But against Oregon, he was a non-factor on the return game and gave up the costly fumble that was the likely difference in the game. Maybe most frustrating of all, Oregon's kicker, who has been below average all season, suddenly had a career game against the Hawks.

5. QB Play Still Isn't There. Gronowski remains well liked by Hawk fans because he comes after a string of some of the worst QBs in Iowa history and the bar is low. But the guy just isn't ready for prime time. In the first quarter, even the announcers could see he was so nervous he was pissing down his leg with some of the worst passing we've seen all season. I believe at one point he was 1/5 for 3 yards. When a guy that experienced (most wins out of any college QB in history) is still that panicked for a big game in his home stadium at the end of his 5th season as a starter, it's clear he's just not "the guy." His stat line was ok by Iowa standards, 10/18 for 138 yards, but he still looks like a running back trying to play QB because the staff clearly has no faith in his throwing. On the year, he still ranks dead last in the Big 10 in yards per attempt, pass rating, and yards per game.
 

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Great job, as usual, Law. It was all there again, the Hawk special, win an ugly one at home. Quacks were doing their part, not running the ball even more since they were completely running over the Dline. Plus, Big 10 refs did their part to help with only one penalty on the Hawks all game long. Despite Lanning and his staff on the field half the game begging for hold calls. Lanning was ticked during this post game radio interview.

Going to disagree with you on Gronk. No, he cannot pass well and looks like an old broken down gimp when he runs. But without him this team is a soft and bad as last year's team. He has added much needed toughness. Need to put him at LB too, and show that D how to play strong. Gronk is by far this team's MVP. And was a perfect fit for a miserable day like that. Not his fault the D faltered badly, again, at the end.

Nice review, Law. Good news for Hawks is last 3 games will not be that tough. Just need to let Gronk loose and shore up that soft Dline. Hey this year had all the makings of a disaster and Gronk saved it. Next year though without him and losing many seniors, yikes!
 

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1. No comment on the coaching but do agree that Jaz should be getting the majority of the carries.
2. Might as well have called this "Front 7 Struggles".
3. TEs caught 40% of the completions. For the "no math" crowd, that's 4 of 10.
4. Long Snapper U may have lost their title. Not sure what that guys deal was.
5. Might as well have called this "QB/WR play still isn't there".
 

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Reminder: IowaLaw continually disparaged Iowa TE Sam LaPorta and later confidently predicted that LaPorta would be an NFL bust with only a handful of receptions.

2 and 1/2 years into his pro career Sam LaPorta has recorded almost 200 receptions for more than 2,000 yards and 20 TDs.

LaPorta set an NFL rookie record for receptions and was selected to the All-Pro 2nd team. He also set franchise records for receptions, yards, and TDs by a TE.
 
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Guessing Jaz must have an issue we aren't seeing that is holding him back.....ball security? late for meetings? Grades? nagging injury? He's pretty clearly the YPC leader in most games he's been given carries......
 

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For their careers, Moulton averages 5 yards per carry, while Jaz averages 4.5. Jaz is a solid player and may deserve more snaps, but he hasn't shown that he deserves more carries than Moulton.

LOL - "tough tackling conditions."
 
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That one stung! Once again, the Hawks hung in there from start to finish against a Top 10 opponent, and once again miscues and defensive lapses simply let them down. The Hawks lose 18-16 on a game they led with 1:00 to go and really should have won. Kinnick magic wasn't enough and the Hawks have now lost 12 straight against ranked opponents (but hey, they sure do beat up on the Minnesotas and Northwesterns of the world). This will go down as another "what could have been" season where too much randying around in key moments was their downfall.

1. Running Backs Coach Must Go. As has been a theme from IowaLaw, the personnel decisions at RB are an absolute joke. While Oregon had all 3 of their backs with 7+ carries and 50+ yards rushing, the Hawks opted to leave their talented fresh legs on the bench the entire game. They put all their eggs in the Kamari Moulton basket. The favorite child somehow had 23 carries despite a clear inability to hit the homerun or break an arm tackle. Despite tough tackling conditions that made Oregon's backs look like superstars, Moulton, behind his elite OL, managed just 3.8 yards per carry against a defense that ranks in the lower half of the Big 10 rush defenses. Jaz Patterson, who is fully healthy, saw just TWO carries the entire game. Why?? Jaz gave the Hawks a hard running spark gaining 5 yards each time he touched the ball, and Williams got just 3 carries. I'm sorry, but Moulton has shown nothing that merits receiving 90% of the team's rushing attempts (while he's 7th in the Big 10 in carries, he ranks 20th in yards per carry and 9th in yards per game).

2. D-Line Struggles. Iowa's DLine has been a strength this year. Not against Oregon. Although Dante Moore passed the ball 21 times, he took 0 hits, had 0 pressures, and 0 sacks. Worse yet, those RBs sliced right through our DLine's arm tackles, each averaging 6.5 yards every time they touched the ball (and their QB averaged 12 yards per carry). Llewellyn was the lone bright spot out there with a nice pass deflection and 5 tackles, but given the struggles of the LBs and S this year, the DL needed to come up a lot stronger than they did.

3. Tight Ends Finally Step Up. Iowa waived goodbye to the title of Tight End University when they hired Tim Lester, who doesn't seem to prioritize tight ends (or passing in general). But against Oregon, Vonnahame & Large stepped up and showed soft hands. They totaled 4 catches for 66 yards, accounting for half of Iowa's receiving yards. Both are 2 star recruits from small town Iowa, so it's still disappointing how far Iowa's tight end recruiting has dropped off under Abdul Hodge, who has now been with the program for 3 1/2 years and has guided the decline in Iowa's tight end talent/production.

4. Head Scratching Special Teams. Kudos to Drew Stevens for stepping up in a major way and hitting a 58 yard bomb in windy and rainy conditions in a close game. The kid came to play. But the punting game was atrocious, both with the awful snaps but also with the weak legged punts averaging just 40 yards and never flipping the field like we've been accustomed to. Then there's Iowa's lone offensive weapon Wetjen, who looked like a super star returning punts when the Hawks lead by 30 against lesser opponents. But against Oregon, he was a non-factor on the return game and gave up the costly fumble that was the likely difference in the game. Maybe most frustrating of all, Oregon's kicker, who has been below average all season, suddenly had a career game against the Hawks.

5. QB Play Still Isn't There. Gronowski remains well liked by Hawk fans because he comes after a string of some of the worst QBs in Iowa history and the bar is low. But the guy just isn't ready for prime time. In the first quarter, even the announcers could see he was so nervous he was pissing down his leg with some of the worst passing we've seen all season. I believe at one point he was 1/5 for 3 yards. When a guy that experienced (most wins out of any college QB in history) is still that panicked for a big game in his home stadium at the end of his 5th season as a starter, it's clear he's just not "the guy." His stat line was ok by Iowa standards, 10/18 for 138 yards, but he still looks like a running back trying to play QB because the staff clearly has no faith in his throwing. On the year, he still ranks dead last in the Big 10 in yards per attempt, pass rating, and yards per game.
Big jump from FCS to FBS.
 
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That one stung! Once again, the Hawks hung in there from start to finish against a Top 10 opponent, and once again miscues and defensive lapses simply let them down. The Hawks lose 18-16 on a game they led with 1:00 to go and really should have won. Kinnick magic wasn't enough and the Hawks have now lost 12 straight against ranked opponents (but hey, they sure do beat up on the Minnesotas and Northwesterns of the world). This will go down as another "what could have been" season where too much randying around in key moments was their downfall.

1. Running Backs Coach Must Go. As has been a theme from IowaLaw, the personnel decisions at RB are an absolute joke. While Oregon had all 3 of their backs with 7+ carries and 50+ yards rushing, the Hawks opted to leave their talented fresh legs on the bench the entire game. They put all their eggs in the Kamari Moulton basket. The favorite child somehow had 23 carries despite a clear inability to hit the homerun or break an arm tackle. Despite tough tackling conditions that made Oregon's backs look like superstars, Moulton, behind his elite OL, managed just 3.8 yards per carry against a defense that ranks in the lower half of the Big 10 rush defenses. Jaz Patterson, who is fully healthy, saw just TWO carries the entire game. Why?? Jaz gave the Hawks a hard running spark gaining 5 yards each time he touched the ball, and Williams got just 3 carries. I'm sorry, but Moulton has shown nothing that merits receiving 90% of the team's rushing attempts (while he's 7th in the Big 10 in carries, he ranks 20th in yards per carry and 9th in yards per game).

2. D-Line Struggles. Iowa's DLine has been a strength this year. Not against Oregon. Although Dante Moore passed the ball 21 times, he took 0 hits, had 0 pressures, and 0 sacks. Worse yet, those RBs sliced right through our DLine's arm tackles, each averaging 6.5 yards every time they touched the ball (and their QB averaged 12 yards per carry). Llewellyn was the lone bright spot out there with a nice pass deflection and 5 tackles, but given the struggles of the LBs and S this year, the DL needed to come up a lot stronger than they did.

3. Tight Ends Finally Step Up. Iowa waived goodbye to the title of Tight End University when they hired Tim Lester, who doesn't seem to prioritize tight ends (or passing in general). But against Oregon, Vonnahame & Large stepped up and showed soft hands. They totaled 4 catches for 66 yards, accounting for half of Iowa's receiving yards. Both are 2 star recruits from small town Iowa, so it's still disappointing how far Iowa's tight end recruiting has dropped off under Abdul Hodge, who has now been with the program for 3 1/2 years and has guided the decline in Iowa's tight end talent/production.

4. Head Scratching Special Teams. Kudos to Drew Stevens for stepping up in a major way and hitting a 58 yard bomb in windy and rainy conditions in a close game. The kid came to play. But the punting game was atrocious, both with the awful snaps but also with the weak legged punts averaging just 40 yards and never flipping the field like we've been accustomed to. Then there's Iowa's lone offensive weapon Wetjen, who looked like a super star returning punts when the Hawks lead by 30 against lesser opponents. But against Oregon, he was a non-factor on the return game and gave up the costly fumble that was the likely difference in the game. Maybe most frustrating of all, Oregon's kicker, who has been below average all season, suddenly had a career game against the Hawks.

5. QB Play Still Isn't There. Gronowski remains well liked by Hawk fans because he comes after a string of some of the worst QBs in Iowa history and the bar is low. But the guy just isn't ready for prime time. In the first quarter, even the announcers could see he was so nervous he was pissing down his leg with some of the worst passing we've seen all season. I believe at one point he was 1/5 for 3 yards. When a guy that experienced (most wins out of any college QB in history) is still that panicked for a big game in his home stadium at the end of his 5th season as a starter, it's clear he's just not "the guy." His stat line was ok by Iowa standards, 10/18 for 138 yards, but he still looks like a running back trying to play QB because the staff clearly has no faith in his throwing. On the year, he still ranks dead last in the Big 10 in yards per attempt, pass rating, and yards per game.
 

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Law, what are your thoughts on this week? USC hasn't shown much besides beating Michigan but then lost to Illinois, barely beat Sparty and struggled vs N'west. Should have never won at Nebraska. Huskers handed them that game. They are not as crappy when they had that clown coach in the Holiday Bowl but certainly not as good as when Carroll whipped KF's best team ever in 2002.
How do you think it will go?
 

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Great job, as usual, Law. It was all there again, the Hawk special, win an ugly one at home. Quacks were doing their part, not running the ball even more since they were completely running over the Dline. Plus, Big 10 refs did their part to help with only one penalty on the Hawks all game long. Despite Lanning and his staff on the field half the game begging for hold calls. Lanning was ticked during this post game radio interview.

Going to disagree with you on Gronk. No, he cannot pass well and looks like an old broken down gimp when he runs. But without him this team is a soft and bad as last year's team. He has added much needed toughness. Need to put him at LB too, and show that D how to play strong. Gronk is by far this team's MVP. And was a perfect fit for a miserable day like that. Not his fault the D faltered badly, again, at the end.

Nice review, Law. Good news for Hawks is last 3 games will not be that tough. Just need to let Gronk loose and shore up that soft Dline. Hey this year had all the makings of a disaster and Gronk saved it. Next year though without him and losing many seniors, yikes!
@Hawk4Ever! - you make some valid points. With that said, I think like so many Hawk fans, you've fallen victim to the curse of low expectations resulting from a decade of atrocious QB play at Iowa that has made fans long for someone like Nate Stanley, who everyone thought was the worst we could get while he was playing. Is Gronk even an average playmaker compared to most QBs? Is he a super sharp decision maker or does he take bad sacks? Is he that tough compared with other football players? I'd have to say no on all 3.

Sure, he's not a statue like most Ferentz QBs. But his 12 carries for just 25 yards against the Ducks is awful for a "dual threat" QB. In contrast, Oregon's QB gained 50 yards on just 4 carries.

Does he make plays with his arm? Not very often. His current 133rd out of 136 passing offenses is evidence of a lack of playmaking ability. Especially when you consider the three academies who pass a fraction of the amount Iowa passes have QBs who average over 92 yards per game rushing.

Toughness? My view is he single handedly let the Hawks down in the Indiana game, going out with an injury, then standing on the sidelines healthy enough to warm up the rest of the game but choosing not to go in and try to lead his team to victory (which 90% of QBs with moxxy would have done).

Is he the MVP of the offense this year? Absolutely. But that's more a product of having no D1 caliber WRs or TEs and a very mediocre RB who gets all the carries (for reasons unknown).
 
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Guessing Jaz must have an issue we aren't seeing that is holding him back.....ball security? late for meetings? Grades? nagging injury? He's pretty clearly the YPC leader in most games he's been given carries......
I agree there must be a reasonable explanation out there because leaving Jaz (or the even better back, Williams) on the bench an entire rain soaked game makes no logical sense when the opponent is substituting RBs like crazy with great success.

Looking at the options, it can't be ball security because he hasn't fumbled all season. It can't be grades because these guys aren't really amateurs anymore and are paid to play football at Iowa. Nagging injury? It sure didn't look like it when he was blowing through the line at 110% in his two carries.

I think it more has to do with the new RBs coach, who was a journeymen "analyst" bouncing around from team to team in the NFL. Clearly the guy thinks you only need one RB in the Big 10 and that Moulton's up the middle runs for 3 yards are more than adequate to justify running the guy 23 times per game when there are talented fresh legs on the bench.
 

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I agree there must be a reasonable explanation out there because leaving Jaz (or the even better back, Williams) on the bench an entire rain soaked game makes no logical sense when the opponent is substituting RBs like crazy with great success.

Looking at the options, it can't be ball security because he hasn't fumbled all season. It can't be grades because these guys aren't really amateurs anymore and are paid to play football at Iowa. Nagging injury? It sure didn't look like it when he was blowing through the line at 110% in his two carries.

I think it more has to do with the new RBs coach, who was a journeymen "analyst" bouncing around from team to team in the NFL. Clearly the guy thinks you only need one RB in the Big 10 and that Moulton's up the middle runs for 3 yards are more than adequate to justify running the guy 23 times per game when there are talented fresh legs on the bench.
Don’t forget about McNeil who had shown glimpses of Wadley esque quickness…not giving Jaz, Williams, and McNeil more snaps was ridiculous….I love Moulton, but for whatever reason it was not his day. Hard to say if playing the other RBs more would have changed the outcome though.
 
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That one stung! Once again, the Hawks hung in there from start to finish against a Top 10 opponent, and once again miscues and defensive lapses simply let them down. The Hawks lose 18-16 on a game they led with 1:00 to go and really should have won. Kinnick magic wasn't enough and the Hawks have now lost 12 straight against ranked opponents (but hey, they sure do beat up on the Minnesotas and Northwesterns of the world). This will go down as another "what could have been" season where too much randying around in key moments was their downfall.

1. Running Backs Coach Must Go. As has been a theme from IowaLaw, the personnel decisions at RB are an absolute joke. While Oregon had all 3 of their backs with 7+ carries and 50+ yards rushing, the Hawks opted to leave their talented fresh legs on the bench the entire game. They put all their eggs in the Kamari Moulton basket. The favorite child somehow had 23 carries despite a clear inability to hit the homerun or break an arm tackle. Despite tough tackling conditions that made Oregon's backs look like superstars, Moulton, behind his elite OL, managed just 3.8 yards per carry against a defense that ranks in the lower half of the Big 10 rush defenses. Jaz Patterson, who is fully healthy, saw just TWO carries the entire game. Why?? Jaz gave the Hawks a hard running spark gaining 5 yards each time he touched the ball, and Williams got just 3 carries. I'm sorry, but Moulton has shown nothing that merits receiving 90% of the team's rushing attempts (while he's 7th in the Big 10 in carries, he ranks 20th in yards per carry and 9th in yards per game).

2. D-Line Struggles. Iowa's DLine has been a strength this year. Not against Oregon. Although Dante Moore passed the ball 21 times, he took 0 hits, had 0 pressures, and 0 sacks. Worse yet, those RBs sliced right through our DLine's arm tackles, each averaging 6.5 yards every time they touched the ball (and their QB averaged 12 yards per carry). Llewellyn was the lone bright spot out there with a nice pass deflection and 5 tackles, but given the struggles of the LBs and S this year, the DL needed to come up a lot stronger than they did.

3. Tight Ends Finally Step Up. Iowa waived goodbye to the title of Tight End University when they hired Tim Lester, who doesn't seem to prioritize tight ends (or passing in general). But against Oregon, Vonnahame & Large stepped up and showed soft hands. They totaled 4 catches for 66 yards, accounting for half of Iowa's receiving yards. Both are 2 star recruits from small town Iowa, so it's still disappointing how far Iowa's tight end recruiting has dropped off under Abdul Hodge, who has now been with the program for 3 1/2 years and has guided the decline in Iowa's tight end talent/production.

4. Head Scratching Special Teams. Kudos to Drew Stevens for stepping up in a major way and hitting a 58 yard bomb in windy and rainy conditions in a close game. The kid came to play. But the punting game was atrocious, both with the awful snaps but also with the weak legged punts averaging just 40 yards and never flipping the field like we've been accustomed to. Then there's Iowa's lone offensive weapon Wetjen, who looked like a super star returning punts when the Hawks lead by 30 against lesser opponents. But against Oregon, he was a non-factor on the return game and gave up the costly fumble that was the likely difference in the game. Maybe most frustrating of all, Oregon's kicker, who has been below average all season, suddenly had a career game against the Hawks.

5. QB Play Still Isn't There. Gronowski remains well liked by Hawk fans because he comes after a string of some of the worst QBs in Iowa history and the bar is low. But the guy just isn't ready for prime time. In the first quarter, even the announcers could see he was so nervous he was pissing down his leg with some of the worst passing we've seen all season. I believe at one point he was 1/5 for 3 yards. When a guy that experienced (most wins out of any college QB in history) is still that panicked for a big game in his home stadium at the end of his 5th season as a starter, it's clear he's just not "the guy." His stat line was ok by Iowa standards, 10/18 for 138 yards, but he still looks like a running back trying to play QB because the staff clearly has no faith in his throwing. On the year, he still ranks dead last in the Big 10 in yards per attempt, pass rating, and yards per game.
I wouldn’t be too hard on Wetjen - it was not his day and conditions were obviously not ideal. Not pitching the ball to him on that last kick off was (another) head scratcher though…

It was disconcerting to hear that MG looked nervous out there, but bottom line he led us to an improbable TD on that final drive. Also, his numbers were comparable to Oregon’s golden child QB. It’s sad that Oregon’s 3rd and 4th string WRs are far better than any one in our WR room. Although for the record, it’s criminal that RVZ is not playing every snap…is it because Gill paid his dues and blocks better?!?!,!🤬
 

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"In contrast, Oregon's QB gained 50 yards on just 4 carries."

Most of those yards wouldn't have happened wirhout a blatant uncalled holding penalty.
Still your points about overall QB play are valid. I guess I expected more. Perhaps the transition to FBS from FCS is harder than I thought.
 
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"In contrast, Oregon's QB gained 50 yards on just 4 carries."

Most of those yards wouldn't have happened wirhout a blatant uncalled holding penalty.
Still your points about overall QB play are valid. I guess I expected more. Perhaps the transition to FBS from FCS is harder than I thought.
Iowa got away with a blatant holding call also right before big play that setup their touchdown.

holding is basically never called anymore and it usually evens out.
 

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Law, what are your thoughts on this week? USC hasn't shown much besides beating Michigan but then lost to Illinois, barely beat Sparty and struggled vs N'west. Should have never won at Nebraska. Huskers handed them that game. They are not as crappy when they had that clown coach in the Holiday Bowl but certainly not as good as when Carroll whipped KF's best team ever in 2002.
How do you think it will go?

look at the dorky little husker fan pretending to be an Iowa fan.

dork.
 
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With any other quarterback since CJ Beathard this is a .500 or below ball club. Gronowski has carried us.
You suffer from recency bias. Gronowski hasn't carried anyone in games when it counted.

Gronowksi throws for just 130 yards per game and isn't quick enough to be considered a mobile qb or make defenses respect his running threat.

It was just a few years ago (2019) Nate Stanley threw for 230 yards per game and 16 touchdowns. That wasn't great compared to most QBs. You think Iowa is better off with Gronk who throws for 100 yards per game less than Stanley? Stanley could gain 3 yards on a sneak just as well as Gronk, but he had a much better arm.

Then in 2020, Spencer Petras, who was universally hated by fans, threw for 197 yards per game and the Hawks. He would have thrown for more but he had a much better ground game to rely on with Goodson and Sargent playing far superior to Moulton.
 

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You suffer from recency bias. Gronowski hasn't carried anyone in games when it counted.

Gronowksi throws for just 130 yards per game and isn't quick enough to be considered a mobile qb or make defenses respect his running threat.

It was just a few years ago (2019) Nate Stanley threw for 230 yards per game and 16 touchdowns. That wasn't great compared to most QBs. You think Iowa is better off with Gronk who throws for 100 yards per game less than Stanley? Stanley could gain 3 yards on a sneak just as well as Gronk, but he had a much better arm.

Then in 2020, Spencer Petras, who was universally hated by fans, threw for 197 yards per game and the Hawks. He would have thrown for more but he had a much better ground game to rely on with Goodson and Sargent playing far superior to Moulton.

You put Gronowski on the 2019 or 2020 teams and Iowa is better. You put Stanley or Petras on this 2025 team and they are worse.

Gronowski is completing a significantly higher percentage of his passes (64%) than Stanley (59%) and Petras (57%). Put him behind a line that has Jackson, Linderbaum, and Wirfs blocking on it and let him throw to Fant, Hockenson, LaPorta, Smith, or ISM and his yards per game and touchdowns would look way better than they do today.
 
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That one stung! Once again, the Hawks hung in there from start to finish against a Top 10 opponent, and once again miscues and defensive lapses simply let them down. The Hawks lose 18-16 on a game they led with 1:00 to go and really should have won. Kinnick magic wasn't enough and the Hawks have now lost 12 straight against ranked opponents (but hey, they sure do beat up on the Minnesotas and Northwesterns of the world). This will go down as another "what could have been" season where too much randying around in key moments was their downfall.

1. Running Backs Coach Must Go. As has been a theme from IowaLaw, the personnel decisions at RB are an absolute joke. While Oregon had all 3 of their backs with 7+ carries and 50+ yards rushing, the Hawks opted to leave their talented fresh legs on the bench the entire game. They put all their eggs in the Kamari Moulton basket. The favorite child somehow had 23 carries despite a clear inability to hit the homerun or break an arm tackle. Despite tough tackling conditions that made Oregon's backs look like superstars, Moulton, behind his elite OL, managed just 3.8 yards per carry against a defense that ranks in the lower half of the Big 10 rush defenses. Jaz Patterson, who is fully healthy, saw just TWO carries the entire game. Why?? Jaz gave the Hawks a hard running spark gaining 5 yards each time he touched the ball, and Williams got just 3 carries. I'm sorry, but Moulton has shown nothing that merits receiving 90% of the team's rushing attempts (while he's 7th in the Big 10 in carries, he ranks 20th in yards per carry and 9th in yards per game).

2. D-Line Struggles. Iowa's DLine has been a strength this year. Not against Oregon. Although Dante Moore passed the ball 21 times, he took 0 hits, had 0 pressures, and 0 sacks. Worse yet, those RBs sliced right through our DLine's arm tackles, each averaging 6.5 yards every time they touched the ball (and their QB averaged 12 yards per carry). Llewellyn was the lone bright spot out there with a nice pass deflection and 5 tackles, but given the struggles of the LBs and S this year, the DL needed to come up a lot stronger than they did.

3. Tight Ends Finally Step Up. Iowa waived goodbye to the title of Tight End University when they hired Tim Lester, who doesn't seem to prioritize tight ends (or passing in general). But against Oregon, Vonnahame & Large stepped up and showed soft hands. They totaled 4 catches for 66 yards, accounting for half of Iowa's receiving yards. Both are 2 star recruits from small town Iowa, so it's still disappointing how far Iowa's tight end recruiting has dropped off under Abdul Hodge, who has now been with the program for 3 1/2 years and has guided the decline in Iowa's tight end talent/production.

4. Head Scratching Special Teams. Kudos to Drew Stevens for stepping up in a major way and hitting a 58 yard bomb in windy and rainy conditions in a close game. The kid came to play. But the punting game was atrocious, both with the awful snaps but also with the weak legged punts averaging just 40 yards and never flipping the field like we've been accustomed to. Then there's Iowa's lone offensive weapon Wetjen, who looked like a super star returning punts when the Hawks lead by 30 against lesser opponents. But against Oregon, he was a non-factor on the return game and gave up the costly fumble that was the likely difference in the game. Maybe most frustrating of all, Oregon's kicker, who has been below average all season, suddenly had a career game against the Hawks.

5. QB Play Still Isn't There. Gronowski remains well liked by Hawk fans because he comes after a string of some of the worst QBs in Iowa history and the bar is low. But the guy just isn't ready for prime time. In the first quarter, even the announcers could see he was so nervous he was pissing down his leg with some of the worst passing we've seen all season. I believe at one point he was 1/5 for 3 yards. When a guy that experienced (most wins out of any college QB in history) is still that panicked for a big game in his home stadium at the end of his 5th season as a starter, it's clear he's just not "the guy." His stat line was ok by Iowa standards, 10/18 for 138 yards, but he still looks like a running back trying to play QB because the staff clearly has no faith in his throwing. On the year, he still ranks dead last in the Big 10 in yards per attempt, pass rating, and yards per game.
So Grono turned it around to go 9 for 13 passing, great percentage, for 135 yards the last 3 qtrs, hit several big plays, had the big td run and other good runs

but you are not satisfied. No he is not Johnny Unitas or Tom Brady but he is playing well. I think his first throw Gill sort of tripped and fell a little forward so once again maybe the throw was not that bad
 
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Hawk4Ever!

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You put Gronowski on the 2019 or 2020 teams and Iowa is better. You put Stanley or Petras on this 2025 team and they are worse.

Gronowski is completing a significantly higher percentage of his passes (64%) than Stanley (59%) and Petras (57%). Put him behind a line that has Jackson, Linderbaum, and Wirfs blocking on it and let him throw to Fant, Hockenson, LaPorta, Smith, or ISM and his yards per game and touchdowns would look way better than they do today.
Don't dish on our boy Stanley! So much better all around than Gronk
 

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You put Gronowski on the 2019 or 2020 teams and Iowa is better. You put Stanley or Petras on this 2025 team and they are worse.

Gronowski is completing a significantly higher percentage of his passes (64%) than Stanley (59%) and Petras (57%). Put him behind a line that has Jackson, Linderbaum, and Wirfs blocking on it and let him throw to Fant, Hockenson, LaPorta, Smith, or ISM and his yards per game and touchdowns would look way better than they do today.

Nate Stanley in 2017 had 26 TDs and 6 picks. Menodoza at 10 games is at those numbers currently. Nate Stanley was pretty damn good. What he lacked in comparison was completion %, but that could be a lot to do with scheme, etc
 
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You suffer from recency bias. Gronowski hasn't carried anyone in games when it counted.

Gronowksi throws for just 130 yards per game and isn't quick enough to be considered a mobile qb or make defenses respect his running threat.

It was just a few years ago (2019) Nate Stanley threw for 230 yards per game and 16 touchdowns. That wasn't great compared to most QBs. You think Iowa is better off with Gronk who throws for 100 yards per game less than Stanley? Stanley could gain 3 yards on a sneak just as well as Gronk, but he had a much better arm.

Then in 2020, Spencer Petras, who was universally hated by fans, threw for 197 yards per game and the Hawks. He would have thrown for more but he had a much better ground game to rely on with Goodson and Sargent playing far superior to Moulton.
Rutgers didn’t matter???
Penn State didn’t matter???
Gronowski isn’t a running threat???
Put Stanley or Petras on this team and they have won 4 games max.
 
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Nate Stanley in 2017 had 26 TDs and 6 picks. Menodoza at 10 games is at those numbers currently. Nate Stanley was pretty damn good. What he lacked in comparison was completion %, but that could be a lot to do with scheme, etc
I’d love to see Gronowski with legitimate multiple first rounds guys at receiver or tight end like Stanley had.
 

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Nate Stanley in 2017 had 26 TDs and 6 picks. Menodoza at 10 games is at those numbers currently. Nate Stanley was pretty damn good. What he lacked in comparison was completion %, but that could be a lot to do with scheme, etc

I'm not trying to dump on Nate I'm just saying he missed a lot of throws and played poorly in big games.

And while he had to play in Brian's ****** offense, he also played with seven different skill guys that are still getting an NFL paycheck today.
 

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Stanley was no world beater, but the Vikings drafted him in the 2020 draft. I am not sure Gronk would be drafted in the Canadian Football League.

While Gronowski does have a slightly better completion percentage than Nate, which I agree is important, his yards per attempt are nearly last in all of college football because most of his completions are at the line of scrimmage. Stanley, on the other hand, had a cannon and took far more chances throwing the ball down the field completing deep balls. Given the lack of risks Gronk takes, his mediocre completion percentage should be at least 70%, which the QBs at Nebraska, Oregon, Washington, Indiana, and Illinois have no problem doing this year.

Again, recency bias. The reason Hawk fans feel like Gronk is playing well is not because of his on field performance. It's because the last 4 years have been abnormally atrocious. Saying he's playing better than Cade/Petras is meaningless. Instead, Gronk needs to be compared to the rest of the Big 10 this year. Take a look and you see he ranks dead last in nearly every statistical category. That's not a knock on the guy, just the objective truth.
 
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