IowaLaw's Objective Post Game Analysis: Penn State

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How 'bout those Hawks! Iowa escapes with a 25-24 win in a thriller that honestly could have gone either way. There were some typical head scratching coaching decisions, kicking game struggles, and abysmal passing, but the Hawks were clearly the better team on both sides of the ball against a bunch of 4 and 5 star elite recruits.

1. X Finally Played Like a 5 Star. If I told you Nwankpa would have Iowa's longest reception of the day (28 yard int return), who would have believed it? No doubt the kid's career hasn't worked out the way he hoped, and it's been a lonnnnng time since he had an interception (I believe it was 2022 or 2023), but in this game, X was the safety we all expected him to be. Not only did he have 10 tackles, a career best, but several of his hits were bone crushing (and not late hits, for a change). If the Hawks can have this version of X every week, the defense goes from being good to elite. Let's hope this game marks a new chapter in the Nwankpa saga.

2. Too Much Credit to Gronowski? All the headlines from the local media were what a great game Gronowski had. The message boards are lighting up with "this is what we brought Gronk to Iowa to do." Really? I get that he had some nifty runs that we are not accustomed to out of a QB, which were huge, but Gronk was brought to Iowa to play quarterback and throw the ball. The guy's throwing stat line was as horrific as a college qb could possibly do. 10/16 for 68 yards, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception. That's an 84 pass rating. In 7 games this season, he's thrown for just 811 yards, 3 tds, and 4 ints. [vomit noise]. That ranks him the #132 best QB in the nation. By comparison, Cade McNamera currently has 1,200 yards and 7 touchdowns this year, and he's the worst starting QB I've ever seen at Iowa. Hawk fans have pined for another dual threat QB like Brad Banks...and while Gronk is not Kirk's usual 1 dimensional statue back there with a cannon for an arm but no running ability, he is the opposite...a great running QB with zero arm or accuracy who cannot throw at all. He is a Big 10 QB with a longest completion of the day being just 12 yards to Wetjen, who caught the ball at the line of scrimmage and made the rest of the yards with his legs. The center could have completed that pass.

3. Inconsistent Special Teams. Iowa's punting game has faded to background this season after being a featured strength in years past, but this week Dakin shined! Two punts for an avg of 58 yards is a huge difference maker games that come down to 1 possession. Drew Stevens, on the other hand, has all the talent in the world, but is one of the least clutch kickers I can remember. In tight games against big opponents, you can almost always count on him to have a bad miss. In blow outs against the Albanys of the world, he's going to be lights out and hit 55 yarders right down the middle when we're already up by 30. With Stevens, it's all mental, because he's got an NFL leg. Wetjen continues to be something special in the return game as he looks to solidify his first team all-American status after a nifty 25 yard punt return in heavy traffic.

4. Linebacker Play is Improving. IowaLaw has been hard on the linebackers this year, even at one point accusing them of "randying around" out there. But this week, undersized Montgomery played like a D1 caliber LB for the first time. Sharar played like a Big 10 caliber LB for the first time, with 9 tackles, including 3 for a loss! Penn State's rushing attack struggled mightily (averaging just 3.8 yards per run) because the LBs stayed in their lanes and made plays. Even Rexroth played well, with 6 tackles and a sack. Huge improvement.

5. Head Scratching Clock Management/Play Calling. Same ol' questionable moves by coach Kirk. Punting on 4th and inches has become a frustrating staple of the program...but taking your time and making ultra conservative play calls at the end of the first half (not worrying at all about getting into field goal range), only to send your struggling kicker out there to kick a national record breaking 68 yard field goal after he had already missed a gimmie? I mean, I like the sudden change of heart and aggressive move, but this one didn't make sense. Settling for a ridiculous 68 yard kick rather than passing the ball down the field on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down? Sure enough, it backfired in the worst possible way with a 10 point swing going into halftime.

6. OLine Becoming Elite. At this point, it doesn't matter which RB is in the game, they are going to have holes to run through. Gone are the days when the backs were getting hit in the backfield the moment they touched the ball (remember poor Tyler Goodson or Leshon Williams?). The OLine unit is more experienced than any other in college football. Impressively, the staff didn't even go with a quick fix by diving into the transfer portal to do it. By my count, the line didn't give up a single sack against a pretty formidable DL front, as Gronk had all day to throw his screen passes and dinks and dunks. Joe Moore award in their future?
 
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How 'bout those Hawks! Iowa escapes with a 25-24 win in a thriller that honestly could have gone either way. There were some typical head scratching coaching decision, some choking in the kicking game, and some abysmal passing, but the Hawks were clearly the better team out there on both sides of the ball against a bunch of 4 and 5 star elite recruits.

1. X Finally Played Like a 5 Star. If I told you Nwankpa would have Iowa's longest reception of the day (28 yard int return), who would have believed it? No doubt the kid's career hasn't worked out the way he hoped, and it's been a lonnnnng time since he had an interception (I believe it was 2022 or 2023), but in this game, X was the safety we all expected him to be. Not only did he have 10 tackles, a career best, but several of his hits were bone crushing (and not late hits, for a change). If the Hawks can have this version of X every week, the defense goes from being good to elite. Let's hope this game marks a new chapter in the Nwankpa saga.

2. Too Much Credit to Gronowski? All the headlines from the local media this weekend were about what a great game Gronowski had. The message boards are lighting up with "this is what we brought Gronk to Iowa to do." Really? I get that he had some great runs out there, which were huge, but Gronk was brought to Iowa to play quarterback and throw the ball. The guy's throwing stat line was about as bad as a college qb could possibly do. 10/16 for 68 yards, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception. That's an 84 pass rating. Thus far, he's thrown for just 811 yards, 3 tds, and 4 ints, ranking him the #132 best QB in the nation. By comparison, Cade McNamera has 1,200 yards and 7 touchdowns this year and he's the worst QB I've seen at Iowa. I think all Hawk fans have pined for a dual threat QB like Brad Banks...and while Gronk is not a 1 dimensional statue back there with a cannon for an arm but no running ability, he is the opposite...a great running who cannot throw at all. His longest completion of the day was just 12 yards to Wetjen, who caught the ball at the line of scrimmage and made the rest of the yards with his legs.

3. Inconsistent Special Teams. Iowa's punting game has sort of fallen into the background this season after being a featured strength in years past, but this week Dakin shined! Two punts for an avg of 58 yards per punt is a huge difference maker in a game that comes down to 1 possession. Drew Stevens, on the other hand, has all the talent in the world, but is one of the less clutch kickers I can remember in recent memory. In tight games against big opponents, you can almost always count on him to choke. In blow outs against the Albanys of the world, he's going to be lights out and hit 55 yarders right down the middle. With Stevens, it's all mental, because he's got an NFL leg. Wetjen continues to be something special in the punt return game as he looks to solidify his first team all-American status after a nifty 25 yard return in heavy traffic.

4. Linebacker Play is Improving. IowaLaw has been hard on the linebackers this year, even at one point accusing them of "randying around" out there. But this week, undersized Montgomery played like a D1 caliber LB for the first time. Sharar played like a Big 10 caliber LB with 9 tackles, including 3 for a loss! Penn State's rushing attack struggled mightily (averaging just 3.8 yards per run) because the LBs stayed in their lanes and made plays. Even Rexroth played well, with 6 tackles and a sack.

5. Head Scratching Clock Management/Play Calling. Same ol' questionable moves by ol' coach Kirk. Punting on 4th and inches has become a frustrating staple of the program...but taking your time and making ultra conservative play calls at the end of the first half (not worrying at all about getting in field goal range and instead running the ball up the middle), only to send your kicker out there to kick a 68 yard field goal after he had already missed a gimmie? I mean, I like the sudden change of heart and aggressive move, but this one didn't make sense. Settling for a ridiculous 68 yard kick rather than passing the ball down the field on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down? Sure enough, it backfired in the worst possible way with a 10 point swing going into halftime.

6. OLine Becoming Elite. At this point, it doesn't matter much which RB is in the game, they are going to have holes to run through. Gone are the days when the backs were getting hit in the backfield the moment they touched the ball (remember poor Tyler Goodson and Leshon Williams?). The OLine unit is more experienced than any other in college football and the staff didn't even go with a quick fix by diving into the transfer portal to do it. By my count, they didn't give up a single sack against a pretty formidable DL front, as Gronk had all day to throw his screen passes and dinks and dunks.
not bad.
 

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reasonable take but unduly harsh on gron. gron was respectable. over 200 yards all purpose, i don’t care one bit about the distribution if the total number of his passes+total number of his runs is the number most qbs usually throw. if he ran 60 yards it’s just as good as a 60 yard pass. and the turnover was not his fault.
 

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2. Too Much Credit to Gronowski? All the headlines from the local media were what a great game Gronowski had. The message boards are lighting up with "this is what we brought Gronk to Iowa to do." Really? I get that he had some nifty runs that we are not accustomed to out of a QB, which were huge, but Gronk was brought to Iowa to play quarterback and throw the ball. The guy's throwing stat line was as horrific as a college qb could possibly do. 10/16 for 68 yards, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception. That's an 84 pass rating. In 7 games this season, he's thrown for just 811 yards, 3 tds, and 4 ints. [vomit noise]. That ranks him the #132 best QB in the nation. By comparison, Cade McNamera currently has 1,200 yards and 7 touchdowns this year, and he's the worst QB I've ever seen at Iowa. Hawk fans have pined for another dual threat QB like Brad Banks...and while Gronk is not Kirk's usual 1 dimensional statue back there with a cannon for an arm but no running ability, he is the opposite...a great running QB with zero arm or accuracy who cannot throw at all. He is a Big 10 QB with a longest completion of the day being just 12 yards to Wetjen, who caught the ball at the line of scrimmage and made the rest of the yards with his legs. The center could have completed that pass.
Worst QB you've ever seen at Iowa? I know you were around for Deacon Hill.
 

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How 'bout those Hawks! Iowa escapes with a 25-24 win in a thriller that honestly could have gone either way. There were some typical head scratching coaching decisions, kicking game struggles, and abysmal passing, but the Hawks were clearly the better team on both sides of the ball against a bunch of 4 and 5 star elite recruits. We still dont have the receivers

5. Head Scratching Clock Management/Play Calling. Same ol' questionable moves by coach Kirk. Punting on 4th and inches has become a frustrating staple of the program...but taking your time and making ultra conservative play calls at the end of the first half (not worrying at all about getting into field goal range), only to send your struggling kicker out there to kick a national record breaking 68 yard field goal after he had already missed a gimmie? I mean, I like the sudden change of heart and aggressive move, but this one didn't make sense. Settling for a ridiculous 68 yard kick rather than passing the ball down the field on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down? Sure enough, it backfired in the worst possible way with a 10 point swing going into halftime.

6. OLine Becoming Elite. At this point, it doesn't matter which RB is in the game, they are going to have holes to run through. Gone are the days when the backs were getting hit in the backfield the moment they touched the ball (remember poor Tyler Goodson or Leshon Williams?). The OLine unit is more experienced than any other in college football. Impressively, the staff didn't even go with a quick fix by diving into the transfer portal to do it. By my count, the line didn't give up a single sack against a pretty formidable DL front, as Gronk had all day to throw his screen passes and dinks and dunks. Joe Moore award in their future?
We have been clamoring for a QB who can run and then you give Grono crap for running for 130 but not getting much passing yards. Grono passed the ball well against Rutgers, Indy, and Wisky, look it up. You do know that Oregon only had 17 points against this psu defense in regulation time and psu's cover guys are pretty damn good.

And the INT was a perfectly thrown ball to a receiver who didnt have his hands ready or in the correct positions.

It is odd that Drew Stevens is better over 50 yards than from 40-49, maybe he changes how hard he swings his leg, not sure. but he has made a lot of big FGs and has about an 85% make rate. Yes we need DAkin to get in that 50+ yard avg

Pat Angerer on the radio broadcast said we had a number of times when there were two lbkrs going to the same hole. They are improving but the run stopping could be better. I would like to see our DLine really keep the LOS at the original snap point.

yeah, almost every KF game has some head scratching decisions

I totally agree on the OLine, watching replays their timing on traps, pulling, pinning defenders to open the edge is really good, great maybe
 
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How 'bout those Hawks! Iowa escapes with a 25-24 win in a thriller that honestly could have gone either way. There were some typical head scratching coaching decisions, kicking game struggles, and abysmal passing, but the Hawks were clearly the better team on both sides of the ball against a bunch of 4 and 5 star elite recruits.

1. X Finally Played Like a 5 Star. If I told you Nwankpa would have Iowa's longest reception of the day (28 yard int return), who would have believed it? No doubt the kid's career hasn't worked out the way he hoped, and it's been a lonnnnng time since he had an interception (I believe it was 2022 or 2023), but in this game, X was the safety we all expected him to be. Not only did he have 10 tackles, a career best, but several of his hits were bone crushing (and not late hits, for a change). If the Hawks can have this version of X every week, the defense goes from being good to elite. Let's hope this game marks a new chapter in the Nwankpa saga.

2. Too Much Credit to Gronowski? All the headlines from the local media were what a great game Gronowski had. The message boards are lighting up with "this is what we brought Gronk to Iowa to do." Really? I get that he had some nifty runs that we are not accustomed to out of a QB, which were huge, but Gronk was brought to Iowa to play quarterback and throw the ball. The guy's throwing stat line was as horrific as a college qb could possibly do. 10/16 for 68 yards, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception. That's an 84 pass rating. In 7 games this season, he's thrown for just 811 yards, 3 tds, and 4 ints. [vomit noise]. That ranks him the #132 best QB in the nation. By comparison, Cade McNamera currently has 1,200 yards and 7 touchdowns this year, and he's the worst starting QB I've ever seen at Iowa. Hawk fans have pined for another dual threat QB like Brad Banks...and while Gronk is not Kirk's usual 1 dimensional statue back there with a cannon for an arm but no running ability, he is the opposite...a great running QB with zero arm or accuracy who cannot throw at all. He is a Big 10 QB with a longest completion of the day being just 12 yards to Wetjen, who caught the ball at the line of scrimmage and made the rest of the yards with his legs. The center could have completed that pass.

3. Inconsistent Special Teams. Iowa's punting game has faded to background this season after being a featured strength in years past, but this week Dakin shined! Two punts for an avg of 58 yards is a huge difference maker games that come down to 1 possession. Drew Stevens, on the other hand, has all the talent in the world, but is one of the least clutch kickers I can remember. In tight games against big opponents, you can almost always count on him to have a bad miss. In blow outs against the Albanys of the world, he's going to be lights out and hit 55 yarders right down the middle when we're already up by 30. With Stevens, it's all mental, because he's got an NFL leg. Wetjen continues to be something special in the return game as he looks to solidify his first team all-American status after a nifty 25 yard punt return in heavy traffic.

4. Linebacker Play is Improving. IowaLaw has been hard on the linebackers this year, even at one point accusing them of "randying around" out there. But this week, undersized Montgomery played like a D1 caliber LB for the first time. Sharar played like a Big 10 caliber LB for the first time, with 9 tackles, including 3 for a loss! Penn State's rushing attack struggled mightily (averaging just 3.8 yards per run) because the LBs stayed in their lanes and made plays. Even Rexroth played well, with 6 tackles and a sack. Huge improvement.

5. Head Scratching Clock Management/Play Calling. Same ol' questionable moves by coach Kirk. Punting on 4th and inches has become a frustrating staple of the program...but taking your time and making ultra conservative play calls at the end of the first half (not worrying at all about getting into field goal range), only to send your struggling kicker out there to kick a national record breaking 68 yard field goal after he had already missed a gimmie? I mean, I like the sudden change of heart and aggressive move, but this one didn't make sense. Settling for a ridiculous 68 yard kick rather than passing the ball down the field on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down? Sure enough, it backfired in the worst possible way with a 10 point swing going into halftime.

6. OLine Becoming Elite. At this point, it doesn't matter which RB is in the game, they are going to have holes to run through. Gone are the days when the backs were getting hit in the backfield the moment they touched the ball (remember poor Tyler Goodson or Leshon Williams?). The OLine unit is more experienced than any other in college football. Impressively, the staff didn't even go with a quick fix by diving into the transfer portal to do it. By my count, the line didn't give up a single sack against a pretty formidable DL front, as Gronk had all day to throw his screen passes and dinks and dunks. Joe Moore award in their future?
Who is Gronk?
 

Rambler Hawk

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Arguably Iowa's longest reception of the day was Lee's INT. He caught it 34 yards beyond the LOS.
Yup, it is a sad state of affairs when our DBs outperform our WRs for YPC….😉

Parker, Gill, & Anderson should never sniff the field. I could care less if they are all outstanding blockers. Why are RBs crucified for coughing up the rock (past years), but yet we continue to rotate very bad WRs?!?!

These are the only WRs I want to see: Wetjen, Howard, and RVZ….& maybe Philips/Buie…😉
 

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Yes, credit to Gronowski. He was the one who won us the game. And saying Cade is the worst QB you've seen when Deacon Hill was our QB shows how unserious we should be taking you. But hey, at least you're good for a laugh.
Yah, that's a head scratcher. Maybe he's erased Deacon Hill from his memory banks, but last time I checked, Hill was not only the worst starting QB in Iowa history, but he's third string right now, behind two freshmen, at mighty Utah Tech.

Also, no QB can look good throwing the ball to receivers with concrete hands. The WRs have done some great blocking, but only Vander Zee and Howard have shown any consistency in actually receiving the ball. MG hasn't been very good in the passing game, but it's not all his fault, not by a long shot. Three of the four INTs were accurate passes that receivers deflected and the opponent caught. How can that be the QB's fault?
 

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I found this a better game breakdown than usual from this poster. Good writeup on the offensive line and the play of X. The coaching head scratchers needed to include not defering to start the game as pointed out by numerous posters.

I have to go against the grain on Gronowski. Like it or not we didn't bring him in here just to add another running threat at QB. The passing game hasn't improved at all a point of emphasis coming into the season. Mark pulled the Penn State game out with a couple key runs but he threw bad passes on both two point conversion attempts which could have really hurt us.
 

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Worst QB you've ever seen at Iowa? I know you were around for Deacon Hill.
I don't think Deacon Hill was ever supposed to actually play. Wasn't there a Budmayr connection there? If so that alone should pretty much disqualify him from ever holding another position at Iowa. Or another option would be to promote him to a full time coaching position in an area where he has no playing or coaching experience. That probably makes the most sense.
 

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I don't think Deacon Hill was ever supposed to actually play. Wasn't there a Budmayr connection there? If so that alone should pretty much disqualify him from ever holding another position at Iowa. Or another option would be to promote him to a full time coaching position in an area where he has no playing or coaching experience. That probably makes the most sense.
Agreed regarding Hill. He was brought in because Padilla and May transferred out, leaving the Hawks with only 3 QBs. Hill was cheap and available, and also a known quantity for Bud. Somehow he was a 4 star recruit coming out of high school. Lainez was the projected heir apparent. I’m reserving judgment regarding Bud for now.
 

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Gronowski criticism is fair. He has a worse passer rating and fewer yards per attempt than every Iowa QB last year (McNamara, Sullivan, and Stratton).

Obviously he’s an upgrade over McNamara because of his running ability. I think he has some intangible upgrades over Sullivan - e.g., better at calling out protection and changing plays at the line, players seem to love him in a way that exceeds the love for Sullivan. But for $2M (reportedly), I expect much more from the passing game. Sure, our WRs aren’t great, but I think they are an upgrade from last year as is the pass protection, and Sullivan’s passing numbers were far superior to Gronowski’s.
 

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Gronowski criticism is fair. He has a worse passer rating and fewer yards per attempt than every Iowa QB last year (McNamara, Sullivan, and Stratton).

Obviously he’s an upgrade over McNamara because of his running ability. I think he has some intangible upgrades over Sullivan - e.g., better at calling out protection and changing plays at the line, players seem to love him in a way that exceeds the love for Sullivan. But for $2M (reportedly), I expect much more from the passing game. Sure, our WRs aren’t great, but I think they are an upgrade from last year as is the pass protection, and Sullivan’s passing numbers were far superior to Gronowski’s.
This is all exactly correct. I don't understand why this is so hard for people to acknowledge and accept. Gronowski is an adequate runner, but for whatever reason, his ability to locate receivers and deliver the ball on time has been abysmal. He's been late and inaccurate. He has the worst passer rating of any QB in P4 and they're going entire halves now without attempting a single pass beyond 10 yards. We can blame receivers for drops and they have certainly had their fair share (particularly in the first couple of games), but for every drop there's been 2 or 3 missed throws. As you said, he has essentially the same group of receivers as Sullivan with exception of Phillips who has been a welcome addition and has had easily the best year of the group so far. If there is strong drop-off from last year it's with the tight end group which is probably the weakest we've seen in the last 10 years.
 

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To say Gronowski is not doing good by looking at his numbers may be objective, but is certainly done lazily. There are only 10 teams who have attempted fewer passes than Iowa.
 
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To say Gronowski is not doing good by looking at his numbers may be objective, but is certainly done lazily. There are only 10 teams who have attempted fewer passes than Iowa.
Total yardage is not what people are judging him by and I agree, that would be lazy..
 
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Yes, credit to Gronowski. He was the one who won us the game. And saying Cade is the worst QB you've seen when Deacon Hill was our QB shows how unserious we should be taking you. But hey, at least you're good for a laugh.

It is comical that three different mouth breathers took the time to parse through a 6 paragraph substantive write up of the Iowa v Penn State game to remark that the 3rd string QB two years ago was worse than the starter who was paid $1M to come to Iowa and lead us to the promised land. Brilliant observation. Ya got me good! Look up hyperbole, then go comment on threads about uniform colors and marching band meant for your level of analysis.

To those giving Gronowski a free pass on his historically horrific passing numbers (18th out of 18 Big 10 qbs / 132nd in the nation) because he's a better runner than Petras or Nate Stanley, check the stats. Gronk seems good by comparison to statues, but he still only averages 41 rushing yards per game. By comparison, Washington's QB rushes for significantly more than 41 yards per game...yet he also manages to pass for 262 yards per game to Gronk's 115 yards.

Most fans would trade a QB who runs for 41 yards for a QB who can complete passes more than 5 yards down the field. A non-game manager who keeps defenses on their toes with his arm. Even a QB who averaged just 200 yards per game would seem like a dream. That's not even asking a lot. 200 yards passing per game this season would rank just 80th in the country in passing offense. Nate Stanley was throwing for 234 yards per game and still got booed in Kinnick because he didn't throw the ball down the field enough. Low expectations breed low results.
 
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It is comical that three different mouth breathers took the time to parse through a 6 paragraph substantive write up of the Iowa v Penn State game to remark that the 3rd string QB two years ago was worse than the starter who was paid $1M to come to Iowa and lead us to the promised land. Brilliant observation. Ya got me good! Look up hyperbole, then go comment on threads about uniform colors and marching band meant for your level of analysis.

To those giving Gronowski a free pass on his historically horrific passing numbers (18th out of 18 Big 10 qbs / 132nd in the nation) because he's a better runner than Petras or Nate Stanley, check the stats. Gronk seems good by comparison to statues, but he still only averages 41 rushing yards per game. By comparison, Washington's QB rushes for significantly more than 41 yards per game...yet he also manages to pass for 262 yards per game to Gronk's 115 yards.

Most fans would trade a QB who can run for 41 yards per game for a QB who can complete a pass more than 5 yards down the field and keep defenses on their toes with his arm. Even a QB who averaged just 200 yards per game would seem like a dream. That's not even asking a lot. 200 yards passing per game this season would rank just 80th in the country in passing offense. Nate Stanley was throwing for 234 yards per game and still got booed in Kinnick because he didn't throw the ball down the field enough. Low expectations breed low results.
Who is Gronk?
 
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To say Gronowski is not doing good by looking at his numbers may be objective, but is certainly done lazily. There are only 10 teams who have attempted fewer passes than Iowa.
How many QBs average less yards per attempt than Gronk? He checks in at last in the Big 10 in that category as well. Pass rating? Also last. Those have nothing to do with attempts.
 

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It is comical that three different mouth breathers took the time to parse through a 6 paragraph substantive write up of the Iowa v Penn State game to remark that the 3rd string QB two years ago was worse than the starter who was paid $1M to come to Iowa and lead us to the promised land. Brilliant observation. Ya got me good! Look up hyperbole, then go comment on threads about uniform colors and marching band meant for your level of analysis.

To those giving Gronowski a free pass on his historically horrific passing numbers (18th out of 18 Big 10 qbs / 132nd in the nation) because he's a better runner than Petras or Nate Stanley, check the stats. Gronk seems good by comparison to statues, but he still only averages 41 rushing yards per game. By comparison, Washington's QB rushes for significantly more than 41 yards per game...yet he also manages to pass for 262 yards per game to Gronk's 115 yards.

Most fans would trade a QB who runs for 41 yards for a QB who can complete passes more than 5 yards down the field. A non-game manager who keeps defenses on their toes with his arm. Even a QB who averaged just 200 yards per game would seem like a dream. That's not even asking a lot. 200 yards passing per game this season would rank just 80th in the country in passing offense. Nate Stanley was throwing for 234 yards per game and still got booed in Kinnick because he didn't throw the ball down the field enough. Low expectations breed low results.
>"Substantive"
>it's nothing but opinionated garbage

The point was Mark deserves the credit because he was the one who made the difference on Saturday. His two big run plays, and the beautiful naked boot are what ultimately decided the game. You can criticize his passing performance, but acting like too much credit was given to him makes you look retarded. Which you are. No where did I give him a free pass on his passing, this is just more of your fantasy nonsense you spout when anyone tries to argue anything you have to say. Mark statistically improved every game up until his injury against Indiana. He has since regressed, but Penn State will be one of the best defenses we'll play for the remainder of the year. So I expect the pass to improve as he continues to heal. But you have to keep in mind we have one of the worst WR corps in the nation. Gill flat out gave that ball to Penn State on the first drive, because it was a perfectly delivered ball.

Your exact words were: "he's the worst starting QB I've ever seen at Iowa."

Deacon Hill was also a starter, and that was bar none, the lowest of the low I've ever seen an Iowa quarterback perform. How much we've paid a player has nothing to do with who truly is the worst of the worst. And acting as if Mark is a downgrade from that simply proves you're either a liar or an idiot.

You act all high and mighty, but I'll tell you right now, you literally do not have what it takes to debate me on this. Which is why you tuck and run every time I respond to you.
 

Jonesy5960

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>"Substantive"
>it's nothing but opinionated garbage

The point was Mark deserves the credit because he was the one who made the difference on Saturday. His two big run plays, and the beautiful naked boot are what ultimately decided the game. You can criticize his passing performance, but acting like too much credit was given to him makes you look retarded. Which you are. No where did I give him a free pass on his passing, this is just more of your fantasy nonsense you spout when anyone tries to argue anything you have to say. Mark statistically improved every game up until his injury against Indiana. He has since regressed, but Penn State will be one of the best defenses we'll play for the remainder of the year. So I expect the pass to improve as he continues to heal. But you have to keep in mind we have one of the worst WR corps in the nation. Gill flat out gave that ball to Penn State on the first drive, because it was a perfectly delivered ball.

Your exact words were: "he's the worst starting QB I've ever seen at Iowa."

Deacon Hill was also a starter, and that was bar none, the lowest of the low I've ever seen an Iowa quarterback perform. How much we've paid a player has nothing to do with who truly is the worst of the worst. And acting as if Mark is a downgrade from that simply proves you're either a liar or an idiot.

You act all high and mighty, but I'll tell you right now, you literally do not have what it takes to debate me on this. Which is why you tuck and run every time I respond to you.
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How many QBs average less yards per attempt than Gronk? He checks in at last in the Big 10 in that category as well. Pass rating? Also last. Those have nothing to do with attempts.
Again I ask….who is Gronk?

If you are going to talk about a player AT LEAST GET HIS FLIPPIN NAME RIGHT.
 
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Hawkfan_08*

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#4- I believe Iowa's improved LB can be directly attributed to the insertion of Jadyn Montgomery. Dude has the ability to blow plays up, and did so a number of times vs PSU.

Ding ding ding!

I have said this so many times. I am appreciative that Harrell wanted to be a Hawk and came here. I'm happy he's on the team and seems like a quality dude.

Montgomery simply provides more upside. Harrell was late to get to holes and struggled to fill gaps without getting run over. I hope we move forward with him at the MLB spot.

On a side note... I think X has been fine all year. He's been playing out of position the last 3 years. He did miss one really bad tackle in the Indiana game but I think he has been much improved this season.

Lutmer is not getting talked about enough. Dude was playing corner for a ton of plays last game.

Entringer is a total stud.
 

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How 'bout those Hawks! Iowa escapes with a 25-24 win in a thriller that honestly could have gone either way. There were some typical head scratching coaching decisions, kicking game struggles, and abysmal passing, but the Hawks were clearly the better team on both sides of the ball against a bunch of 4 and 5 star elite recruits.

1. X Finally Played Like a 5 Star. If I told you Nwankpa would have Iowa's longest reception of the day (28 yard int return), who would have believed it? No doubt the kid's career hasn't worked out the way he hoped, and it's been a lonnnnng time since he had an interception (I believe it was 2022 or 2023), but in this game, X was the safety we all expected him to be. Not only did he have 10 tackles, a career best, but several of his hits were bone crushing (and not late hits, for a change). If the Hawks can have this version of X every week, the defense goes from being good to elite. Let's hope this game marks a new chapter in the Nwankpa saga.

2. Too Much Credit to Gronowski? All the headlines from the local media were what a great game Gronowski had. The message boards are lighting up with "this is what we brought Gronk to Iowa to do." Really? I get that he had some nifty runs that we are not accustomed to out of a QB, which were huge, but Gronk was brought to Iowa to play quarterback and throw the ball. The guy's throwing stat line was as horrific as a college qb could possibly do. 10/16 for 68 yards, 0 touchdowns, 1 interception. That's an 84 pass rating. In 7 games this season, he's thrown for just 811 yards, 3 tds, and 4 ints. [vomit noise]. That ranks him the #132 best QB in the nation. By comparison, Cade McNamera currently has 1,200 yards and 7 touchdowns this year, and he's the worst starting QB I've ever seen at Iowa. Hawk fans have pined for another dual threat QB like Brad Banks...and while Gronk is not Kirk's usual 1 dimensional statue back there with a cannon for an arm but no running ability, he is the opposite...a great running QB with zero arm or accuracy who cannot throw at all. He is a Big 10 QB with a longest completion of the day being just 12 yards to Wetjen, who caught the ball at the line of scrimmage and made the rest of the yards with his legs. The center could have completed that pass.

3. Inconsistent Special Teams. Iowa's punting game has faded to background this season after being a featured strength in years past, but this week Dakin shined! Two punts for an avg of 58 yards is a huge difference maker games that come down to 1 possession. Drew Stevens, on the other hand, has all the talent in the world, but is one of the least clutch kickers I can remember. In tight games against big opponents, you can almost always count on him to have a bad miss. In blow outs against the Albanys of the world, he's going to be lights out and hit 55 yarders right down the middle when we're already up by 30. With Stevens, it's all mental, because he's got an NFL leg. Wetjen continues to be something special in the return game as he looks to solidify his first team all-American status after a nifty 25 yard punt return in heavy traffic.

4. Linebacker Play is Improving. IowaLaw has been hard on the linebackers this year, even at one point accusing them of "randying around" out there. But this week, undersized Montgomery played like a D1 caliber LB for the first time. Sharar played like a Big 10 caliber LB for the first time, with 9 tackles, including 3 for a loss! Penn State's rushing attack struggled mightily (averaging just 3.8 yards per run) because the LBs stayed in their lanes and made plays. Even Rexroth played well, with 6 tackles and a sack. Huge improvement.

5. Head Scratching Clock Management/Play Calling. Same ol' questionable moves by coach Kirk. Punting on 4th and inches has become a frustrating staple of the program...but taking your time and making ultra conservative play calls at the end of the first half (not worrying at all about getting into field goal range), only to send your struggling kicker out there to kick a national record breaking 68 yard field goal after he had already missed a gimmie? I mean, I like the sudden change of heart and aggressive move, but this one didn't make sense. Settling for a ridiculous 68 yard kick rather than passing the ball down the field on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down? Sure enough, it backfired in the worst possible way with a 10 point swing going into halftime.

6. OLine Becoming Elite. At this point, it doesn't matter which RB is in the game, they are going to have holes to run through. Gone are the days when the backs were getting hit in the backfield the moment they touched the ball (remember poor Tyler Goodson or Leshon Williams?). The OLine unit is more experienced than any other in college football. Impressively, the staff didn't even go with a quick fix by diving into the transfer portal to do it. By my count, the line didn't give up a single sack against a pretty formidable DL front, as Gronk had all day to throw his screen passes and dinks and dunks. Joe Moore award in their future?
Gronowski won the game for us. Not too much credit at all.
 
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