Iowa v Ohio State Thread
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There is nothing that I hate more than officials reviewing their own calls. Now, in this case, he actually over-turned it, but, I truly question if he does that if this match was in Iowa. It was extremely close, so, I actually agree that, in that case, you stick with the call on the mat.
Huge call. Ballsy to switch what was called on the mat. I think they likely got it right though. I feel for Gabe
Yep that match will determine the dual. Was close don't let it come down to the refs
Ha, yeah, PJ Duke might like a word about that.
I'm kinda starting to feel bad for Arnold. I don't like his style, but he's been right there so many times and can't catch a break. WTF is wrong with me?
I got nothing for Gabe. Initiate some offense.
Every ref has a different definition of reaction time and what control actually is. I have just never seen a year where the differences are so noticeable
Rutgers beats Minnesota it's 23-12 at HWT
It's Gabe, and it's current Iowa, always assume that someone won 3-1 in OT
12-0 Iowa vs 9-3 is obviously a huge difference and dual meet changing
What is going on with college wrestling?! Minny beats Iowa and then loses to Rutgers. Are we in the twilight zone?
It matters not who wins that match. What is important to both Rutgers and Minnesota is that we all know and acknowledge, combined Rutgers, Minnesota and Penn State have won 12 of the 14 past NCAA championships.
Arnold with virtually no real shots multiple just not to get stall warning
Believe it or not, but I actually feel a little bad for Arnold. He didn’t do himself any favors by calling out Starocci, but he’s done everything possible to try to fit into the Iowa lineup and he goes at whatever weight he is needed. When he goes out and wrestles the current “Iowa style,” (sic) he loses every close match. I’ll bet there are other schools that would love to have him in their lineup.
Im shocked they gave that to OSU. But you are right. It was probably the right call. Im guessing no way that gets flipped in Carver.
Showed far less control than Duke in the Taylor match as well - never got fully behind Arnold (i.e., never fully turned the corner on Arnold's left leg / hip). Based on Tom's analysis of the Duke Challenge vs Taylor (not granted) - that was a horrid reversal of the call on the mat. Again, Fishback never got fully behind Arnold - a requirement if it isn't a Merkel takedown.
Bobby Telford from the University of Iowa made a TV appearance.
We had a guy like that. His name was Mason Manville. Only difference is wrestled the (close) matches without the mouth.
Rutgers rounding into shape to be able to qualify ten for the B1G tournament.
Disagree that it was the correct call - did not show control beyond reaction time. Fishback wrapped his arm around Arnold, but never turned the corner on Arnold's left hip / leg with his body such that he was fully behind Arnold. Fully behind is the requirement on non-Merkel takedown. That control was not established beyond reaction time.
Beyond reaction time has no set amount of time it's the refs judgement. He felt it was 3.
Keuter 236, Feldman 235, per Sparks, for those who like to track heavyweight weights.
Yep, just like stalling. It’s ultimately left to the ref to decide how to make the call.
$100 says that sometime in the future, we’ll have AI involved with making these calls.
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