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Fatwoodchuck

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I admit ending is doing better than I thought he would but I don't think he is close to a 100% elam
 
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The Pitchfork Rebel

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mcpat said:
This is where people saying duals don’t matter without a dual meet championship are just wrong
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Tom McAndrew said:
197: #2 Rock Elam (ISU) vs. #4 Massoma Endene (Iowa)

Elam with the 8-2 DEC

ISU wins the dual, 20-14, for their 1st dual victory in the Cy-Hawk series since 2004
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That stall call on Elam was crap.

Nonetheless, I'm digging this.
 
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El_Jefe said:
Dean didn't do anything on feet in the entire match. In that moment, Ferrari had taken 2 shots within a few seconds. The ref called stalling on Dean on the 2nd one. I don't think the stall gets called if Ferrari got in on the first one and Dean defended. But it was very obvious that Dean was not going to attack. He earned that one.
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You and I are going to disagree on the conclusion of "he earned on there".
 
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For those posting about the ref, a reminder that in college, a number of the rules on stalling have been tweaked/modified so that a lot of situations are mandatory calls. This is not what many people grew up with, or wrestled under, in youth or high school (or coached under).

I thought the mandatory calls were correct. The subjective ones (basically, not enough action), seemed legit. The ref was active throughout the match in calling that, so I can't fault him for any of the calls he made in that regard late in the match. Dean is a great defensive wrestler (how he avoided a few of Ferrari's TD attempts was amazing). But if you don't initiate action (i.e., shoot from neutral), and your opponent repeatedly does (as did Ferrari), you're going to be hit with stalling, even if the signal is given while you're attempting a counter.
 
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Tom McAndrew said:
For those posting about the ref, a reminder that in college, a number of the rules on stalling have been tweaked/modified so that a lot of situations are mandatory calls. This is not what many people grew up with, or wrestled under in youth or high school (or coached under).

I thought the mandatory calls were correct. The subjective ones (basically, not enough action), seemed legit. The ref was active throughout the match in calling that, so I can't fault him for any of the calls he made in that regard late in the match. Dean is a great defensive wrestler (how he avoided a few of Ferrari's TD attempts was amazing). But if you don't initiate action (i.e., shoot from neutral), and your opponent repeatedly does (as did Ferrari), you're going to be hit with stalling, even if the signal is given while you're attempting a counter.
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My problem with the Dean call was it, at least to me, was out of sync with calls earlier in the dual.
 
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