Interesting tweet...
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What's funny is that the kid he is talking about (QB Myles Brennan) hasn't been offered by State either.
#MSUControlledMedia**
And he's not even considering the in-state program that has offered him (USM).
#MSUControlledMedia**
And he's not even considering the in-state program that has offered him (USM).
Mississippi High School coaches need to take a minute and look at the 2016 Ole Miss signees. Ole Miss signed up 25 kids and only 6 are from Mississippi High Schools / JUCO.
On the flip side, MSU signed 18 kids and 10 are from Mississippi High Schools / JUCO. (note Dontea Jones went to Prep School 1 year in VA)
On the flip side, MSU signed 18 kids and 10 are from Mississippi High Schools / JUCO. (note Dontea Jones went to Prep School 1 year in VA)
Am I reading the wrong tweet? How do you get that out of "my kids" and "their teams"?
He might get some feedback from that one. What is Stanislaus?They only have 2 gauging any interest from D1 programs and the other (a TE) didn't even try to camp with Ole Miss last summer, so I don't feel like he would feel spurned.
Plus the QB retweeted it.
Plus the QB retweeted it.
Offers to D1 prospects at St Stanislaus: State 1, TSUN 0
But maybe State offered the UT TE commit today because Mullen read that tweet?**
I don't know coach Conides but I do know the AD and a good a few of the coaches there. It's a pretty pro-msu environment. Hell, Brad Corley is on the baseball staff.
So did the Tight End. Do you have an in on your info? Are you a bench spotter for one of the coaches?
OM actually signed 24. 6 were from MS. So 25%. MSU signed 18 and 10 from MS for 56%. AL signed 25 and 7 from AL for 28%. AU signed 21 and 5 from AL for 24%. South Carolina signed 24 and 6 from SC for 25%. Clemson signed 22 and 4 from SC for 18%. TN signed 21 and 3 from TN for 14%. One of these is not like the others.
That's a good point. You should post less. Unless you forgot that there are presently 50 states in the union. Are there any other D1 teams with a 14%-28% in-state ratio to help bolster your position?**
Then don't get bent out of shape over the "Our State" billboards. Recently with Ole Miss having more out of state students than MSU or USM, it would appear that Ole Miss's move to disassociate them selves from Mississippi students runs parallel with the move to disassociate them selves from Mississippi athletes.
Ole Miss has already proven that they love to recruit outside of Mississippi (and your stats prove that is the norm rather than the exception). This does seem to run counter to Hugh Freeze's boast that his recruiting method is based on "relationships with High School coaches and player's families". Ok, Myles Hartsfield from New Jersey / Massachusetts signed with Ole Miss---Detric Bing-Duks from a JUCO in Iowa---and of course A.J Brown from Starkville MS. That is New England, the Mid West, and the Deep South---that is a lot of area to cover to maintain these "relationships". Especially when you factor in that Hugh Freeze hasn't recruited New Jersey or Iowa or Starkville since he has been at Ole Miss and these prospects do not have older siblings already playing at Ole Miss (AKA the Nkemdiche explanation).
So does Hugh Freeze ride on Dasher, Prancer, or Rudolph the red nosed reindeer to cover all these miles to maintain all these long distance "relationships"? Doesn't it seem more plausible that the true facilitator of these recruiting classes is cash and not supposed "relationships"?
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Ole Miss has already proven that they love to recruit outside of Mississippi (and your stats prove that is the norm rather than the exception). This does seem to run counter to Hugh Freeze's boast that his recruiting method is based on "relationships with High School coaches and player's families". Ok, Myles Hartsfield from New Jersey / Massachusetts signed with Ole Miss---Detric Bing-Duks from a JUCO in Iowa---and of course A.J Brown from Starkville MS. That is New England, the Mid West, and the Deep South---that is a lot of area to cover to maintain these "relationships". Especially when you factor in that Hugh Freeze hasn't recruited New Jersey or Iowa or Starkville since he has been at Ole Miss and these prospects do not have older siblings already playing at Ole Miss (AKA the Nkemdiche explanation).
So does Hugh Freeze ride on Dasher, Prancer, or Rudolph the red nosed reindeer to cover all these miles to maintain all these long distance "relationships"? Doesn't it seem more plausible that the true facilitator of these recruiting classes is cash and not supposed "relationships"?
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And FL is over 6 times larger than MS and GA is over 3 times larger than MS. LA is similar in size to AL and SC but only has 1 power 5 school whereas AL and SC have 2. I used AL and SC as an example because they're in the south, have 2 power 5 schools (like MS), and are somewhat close in size to MS. So my 17'n point is the 4 non-MS power 5 schools that share 2 southern states similar in size to MS sign a similar in/out of state ratio of players as OM.
Uh, you miss the point again. Those other 4 non-MS schools split the number of in-state commitments. Both versions of your argument don't hold water.
MS (16) = 56%, 25%
AL (12) = 28%, 24%
SC (10) = 25%, 18%
TN (5) = 14%, 10% (I guess you forgot that Vandy is a non-MS power 5 school**. I won't bother with Kentucky since it's no longer a southern state.**)
UF 13 of 25 = 52%
UGA 14 of 20 = 70%
LUS 12 of 19 = 63%
Vanderbilt signed 3 of 20 in state. Kentucky signed 5 of 25. So the three worst teams in the SEC had high out of state percentages as did the 3 best teams. Some middle of the road teams high high percentage in state, some didn't. So again I ask, what is your 17'n point?
Am I the only one that finds the tweet dumb and only reflecting poorly on the coach? All he does is justify OM not wanting to mess with him over what are at this point in time are borderline power 5 recruits. If he's tweeting pissed off about offers prior to the junior camp circuit, he wasn't ever going to hold his tongue when guys get to school and have to go thru their lumps like everyone else. So instead of helping his kids, this type of thing actively hurts them in my opinion.
This attitude doesn't surprise me though after watching them play several times throughout the year and just being around their sports programs. Some of their players, and it's the same ones, do things during games that other schools would pull their player for. Cocky, arrogant and entitled is how I would describe it. That's a very small portion of their school and athletes but it happens often.
Pretty sure if he had any kids that were good enough to be on teams that could "skull-drag" Ole Miss, they would have offered them. This is dumb and a really bad look on this coach. Also, for the ones boasting about getting a bunch of MS kids, I can confidently say that Ole Miss fans could not care less about where recruits are from. We want the best talent possible, and it's very obvious who is getting the best talent between OM and MSU. You can have the #ourstate banner. I'll keep the egg.
Allegedly, St Stanislaus has been the leading cause of the strife between the MHSAA and the parochial schools because of the temperament of some of their coaches (running up the score, etc). I dunno.
But from the C-L article, he said:
Well Coach, probably because 1) We just picked up the #1 QB from the 2016 class, so we probably aren't too focused on 2017 3-stars at the moment and 2) are you really arguing that Ole Miss should pay him special attention just because they share the same state, even though Ole Miss is further than about 10 other schools?
And then about the TE, according to 247 he camped with MSU last summer and chose not to camp with Ole Miss. As a hard commit to UT and having chosen not to even attend camp at Ole Miss, why would Ole Miss coaches spend time on him?
I think the strife began when Smithville complained about Greenville St. Joe having players from across the river in Arkansas in the 1A championship baseball series about 5 years ago.
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That, and I think there's also been a lot of backlash about the private school in Tupelo that played in MHSAA for a while. Pretty sure this was brought to the full MHSAA by the District 1 coaches (Smithville and the other small schools in the far northeast). Although I suspect there's probably a fair amount of resentment over St. Stanislaus in the south, I don't think it's been quite as widespread.
Scorched earth?
Lmao! The comment above shows the difference in our fan bases. What's really puzzling is you all want to talk about the past when it benefits you but if I were to bring up the egg bowl records you would ask why we're living in the past. Also, being ranked number 1 during the season is as pointless as being ranked number 1 preseason. I can promise you that y'all weren't ranked #1 because you had the best team in the country. If that was the case State would have finished the year #1. All it did was give the fans a false since of hope. Outside of "We Believe" there wasn't a single person that thought State would finish #1. That ranking had more to do with schedule than anything. If State would've played LSU at the end of the year rather than the beginning that would've been another loss. Half of LSU's starters were playing HS football a few months before. Even last year if State would've played LSU later in the season it would've been a much worse loss. On the flip side you could argue the same for Ole Miss. If we'd have played Alabama later in the year there may have been a different result.
Lmao! The comment above shows the difference in our fan bases. What's really puzzling is you all want to talk about the past when it benefits you but if I were to bring up the egg bowl records you would ask why we're living in the past. Also, being ranked number 1 during the season is as pointless as being ranked number 1 preseason. I can promise you that y'all weren't ranked #1 because you had the best team in the country. If that was the case State would have finished the year #1. All it did was give the fans a false since of hope. Outside of "We Believe" there wasn't a single person that thought State would finish #1. That ranking had more to do with schedule than anything. If State would've played LSU at the end of the year rather than the beginning that would've been another loss. Half of LSU's starters were playing HS football a few months before. Even last year if State would've played LSU later in the season it would've been a much worse loss. On the flip side you could argue the same for Ole Miss. If we'd have played Alabama later in the year there may have been a different result.