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Tractorman

All-Conference
Mar 15, 2009
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We are one of only 2 teams in baseball with 0 quad 3 and quad 4 losses. I don't expect to climb to an 8 seed, BUT, if we beat Georgia and AL/FL we will be in the conversation for a national seed.

 
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Willow Grove Dawg

All-Conference
Nov 3, 2016
7,717
4,946
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We have to make it till Sunday at a minimum to get a Top 8 seed and we probably have to win the tournament. Making it till Sunday would mean we beat Georgia & probably the Florida/Alabama winner which all have RPIs better than MSU today. We would need some help from Nebraska & USC losing to bad RPI teams on Friday in the Big 10 tournament to get a Top 8 without winning the SECT.

Assuming that we are not a Top 8 seed, the ideal match-up for us in USC which would probably require us to be #9, #10, or #11. USC will struggle to get out of a home regional.
 
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The Peeper

Heisman
Feb 26, 2008
15,790
11,118
113

She Mate Me

Heisman
Dec 7, 2008
13,562
12,089
113
I've got my own shorthand for comparing quality W-L records.

I look at the RPI Quad 1 & 2 records and then add in all Q3 and Q4 losses. You get no credit for low quality wins but are penalized for bad losses.

It's just my own little quirky analysis, but makes sense to me.

Even using that, we are still pretty clearly to me a 12-14 level National Seed.

If we win three more in a row at Hoover I could see us getting to 9 or 10 and forcing ourselves back into the Top 8 conversation. Love to see them do it.
 

johnson86-1

All-American
Aug 22, 2012
14,619
5,096
113
We are one of only 2 teams in baseball with 0 quad 3 and quad 4 losses. I don't expect to climb to an 8 seed, BUT, if we beat Georgia and AL/FL we will be in the conversation for a national seed.

Semi-related, but USCw is 1-10 against quad 1, 8-1 against quad 2, and then 33-3 against quad 3 and 4.

We are 9-13 against quad 1, 4-3 against quad 2, and then 27-0 against quad 3 and 4.

They are not quite .6% better than us winning percentage against quad 1 and 2 and 8.3% worse than us winning percentagewise against quad 3 and 4, and played 33% more quad 3 and 4 games than us. Just how much worse were our lowest RPI opponents than USC's for them to be ahead of us despite way more quad three and quad four games, and not really win more against quad 1 and 2, for them to be 4 spots ahead of us in RPI. I know that might be a tiny difference in actual RPI, but they just stand out as not having a good argument to be ahead of us looking briefly at the records.
 

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
23,995
11,126
113
We are one of only 2 teams in baseball with 0 quad 3 and quad 4 losses. I don't expect to climb to an 8 seed, BUT, if we beat Georgia and AL/FL we will be in the conversation for a national seed.

Unfortunately, we are not going to see a quad 3 or 4 in a super .... assuming we make it out of the regional.
 

MSUDC11-2.0

Heisman
Sep 29, 2022
9,510
14,773
113
It’s not just that we’ve beaten all those teams… we’ve beaten 90% of them to a bloody pulp. When we win, we tend to win convincingly.

Close games have been our problem against good teams. But many of our legitimately good wins were not close games.
 

HRMSU

All-Conference
Apr 26, 2022
1,484
1,331
113
I've got my own shorthand for comparing quality W-L records.

I look at the RPI Quad 1 & 2 records and then add in all Q3 and Q4 losses. You get no credit for low quality wins but are penalized for bad losses.

It's just my own little quirky analysis, but makes sense to me.

Even using that, we are still pretty clearly to me a 12-14 level National Seed.

If we win three more in a row at Hoover I could see us getting to 9 or 10 and forcing ourselves back into the Top 8 conversation. Love to see them do it.
If we do that nobody will want to see us in their bracket regardless of our seed.
 

QuadrupleOption

All-Conference
Aug 21, 2012
1,225
1,295
93
This team reminds me of a lot of Mullen's football teams. Beat the **** out of bad teams, lose to everyone with a pulse (except Ole Miss).
 

MSUDC11-2.0

Heisman
Sep 29, 2022
9,510
14,773
113
Historically, the SEC tourney has had minimal to no impact on your seeding. I think we are where we are. Maybe if we win the whole thing we could move up a few spots but SEC tourney results will not get us a national seed. That ship has sailed.

I don’t think we can crack the Top 8. But maybe we can move from the 13-14 range to the 9-10 range. Which matters both for Super pairings and quality of 2 seed now that they are seeding the 2 seeds 17-32 as well.
 
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josebrown

All-Conference
Aug 4, 2008
3,177
1,341
113
I've got my own shorthand for comparing quality W-L records.

I look at the RPI Quad 1 & 2 records and then add in all Q3 and Q4 losses. You get no credit for low quality wins but are penalized for bad losses.

It's just my own little quirky analysis, but makes sense to me.

Even using that, we are still pretty clearly to me a 12-14 level National Seed.

If we win three more in a row at Hoover I could see us getting to 9 or 10 and forcing ourselves back into the Top 8 conversation. Love to see them do it.
Reminds me of the way Ed Murphy used to rank the basketball season. +1 for winning on the road and -1 for losing at home. I always kinda liked that way.
 
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theoriginalSALTYdog

All-Conference
Jul 10, 2021
1,633
2,094
113
We are one of only 2 teams in baseball with 0 quad 3 and quad 4 losses. I don't expect to climb to an 8 seed, BUT, if we beat Georgia and AL/FL we will be in the conversation for a national seed.


That ship has SAILED. . . . .
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
57,908
27,777
113
We’re only 32 point away from #9 Nebraska right now. And #8 USC is 1-10 in Q1 games so they’re a lot closer ti the hosting bubble than the top 8 seed bubble. If we win tomorrow we’re at least in the real conversation for a top 8 seed.
 
Sep 8, 2008
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We are one of only 2 teams in baseball with 0 quad 3 and quad 4 losses. I don't expect to climb to an 8 seed, BUT, if we beat Georgia and AL/FL we will be in the conversation for a national seed.

AI says if we make it to the SECT final we are in discussion for Top 8 seed, and if we win it we are a lock. If USC &/or FSU lose to low RPI teams in their tourney we probably pass them by just getting to the final.

Considering this, do we set up our pitching to go for it? What if we beat UGA? Do we go for it then? Is it worth the risk of using arms if it gets us a real shot at a top 8 seed?
 

Bulldog from Birth

All-Conference
Jan 23, 2007
2,513
1,087
113
We’re only 32 point away from #9 Nebraska right now. And #8 USC is 1-10 in Q1 games so they’re a lot closer ti the hosting bubble than the top 8 seed bubble. If we win tomorrow we’re at least in the real conversation for a top 8 seed.
Georgia is going to leap frog us for sure though. So we really have to get to 7 in the current RPI ranking. There just isn’t a path to a Top 8 anymore.