Interesting article on the NCAA and show causes

missouridawg

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Don Jacksons argument is a decent one. This case provides incentives for assistant coaches to go Wild West.

But... A key to remember here is that immunity spelled bad bad news for the head coach. Hint hint.
 

Digging dog

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I believe if the vise is big enough and squeezes tight enough, the lesser culprits in the OM investigation will tell all.
 

msstate7

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I believe if the vise is big enough and squeezes tight enough, the lesser culprits in the OM investigation will tell all.

Harris (think that's his name) seems a likely target. NCAA, "Harris, we have enough on you to end your coaching career. You can keep your mouth shut and never coach big time football again or you can give us freeze with immunity for yourself."
 

Xenomorph

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Y'all must be trippin. ..Does the NCAA have a Witness Protection Program? Cause if an assistant ever rolled on Freeze he'd have to go into hiding. Forget ever coaching again. He'd have to go man a ranger hut in the jungles of American Samoa.
 

Digging dog

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Y'all must be trippin. ..Does the NCAA have a Witness Protection Program? Cause if an assistant ever rolled on Freeze he'd have to go into hiding. Forget ever coaching again. He'd have to go man a ranger hut in the jungles of American Samoa.

If it gets down to "Me or Thee", Me is usually taken. Happens everyday in the business world.
 

The Peeper

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If Harris played his cards right though he would "lawyer up" w/ one of their loafer wearing, seersucker clad, bow tie sporting mouthpieces and tell them he will keep his mouth shut for a large sum and he would never have to work again anyway
 

121Josey

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Don Jacksons argument is a decent one. This case provides incentives for assistant coaches to go Wild West.

Actually it doesn't hold water. 1) immunity isn't automatic and 2) it further makes the head coach responsible for his assistants.
 

LesterFreeman

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http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...huge-ncaa-violations-of-former-so-miss-coach/

It is harsh. However look down that article. One I don't believe he didn't know his assistants were going all over the country and he didn't know. Two he got caught red handed to me with the email.

One of Tyndall's former coaches wound up hurting his former coach in the form of an email. Per the NCAA's report, the assistant confirmed over email something in regard to a player's academic progress. "Halfway done with psychology working on his English," the assistant wrote, to which Tyndall replied, "Cool don't say anymore bout that on here!!"
 

DudyDog

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The NCAA had enough on Tyndall to take down the program without the assistant's claims. They were just one more straw on that camel's back. Remember, his program before USM was put on probation as well. He was well known in NCAA circles before he got to Tenn. What these claims did was take down Tyndall himself.

Then you have those darn deleted emails to back up the assistants claims and put Tyndall's fingerprints on the wrongdoing. Hey, maybe the NCAA should investigate Hillary.


The public report issued by the Committee on Infractions, however, is damning. Not only did it use
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In tying this to the OM investigation, the NCAA will have enough to hammer OM, but if an assistant rolls on Freeze, he's going down with the ship, same as Tyndall. The Tyndall case set precedent. An OM assistant will have the opportunity to do the same here.

The only question that remains is will he, or will he not?


 
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BiscuitEater

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The NCAA had enough on Tyndall to take down the program without the assistants claims. They were just one more straw on that camel's back. Remember, his program before USM was put on probation as well. He was well known in NCAA circles before he got to Tenn. What these claims did was take down Tyndall himself.

Yeah, NCAA had PLENTY of evidence to take USM down .. BUT, not enough to take Tyndall down. The head coach NEEDS to be held accountable WHEN illegal actions are taken by HIS assistants.

Does ANYONE believe that Bucky was/is NOT aware of the crap going down in Oxford?
 

ckDOG

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Don Jackson makes stellar NCAA arguments - Renardo Sidney**

Don Jacksons argument is a decent one. This case provides incentives for assistant coaches to go Wild West.

But... A key to remember here is that immunity spelled bad bad news for the head coach. Hint hint.

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There's a reason no assistant coaches have been fired by UM- and it has nothing to do with "we're all innocent, just is just a big misunderstanding."
 

patdog

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Well, it might be a decent argument if there wasn't so much damning evidence against his client even without the assistant's testimony. "9-game suspension" is about as reasonable as "9 scholarships over 3 years" is.
 

patdog

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There's a reason no assistant coaches have been fired by UM- and it has nothing to do with "we're all innocent, just is just a big misunderstanding."
Yep. They know they can't just fire assistants like you could in the old days. If you do, you've just put the burden of proof on your head coach to prove he didn't know about what they did.
 

GloryDawg

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If all he had done was what he did at USM would they have gave a show cause or was it a combination all the other stuff at other universities and USM that lead the NCAA to drop the hammer?
 

crushing

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So, when the hell is the next ball going to drop. Anybody have anything? Or should we not expect anything until after season end?
 
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