Inside MS-13

Popeer

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Thanks obama..[/MEDIA]
Thanks Obama? OFFS. MS-13 has been here since the 1980s. You want to thank a former president, thank Ronnie Ray Gun, who couldn't keep his nose out of El Salvador.

I think antiterrorism laws and strategies ought to include drug cartels.
Agreed. Instead of deporting them, they should be tried in Federal court on terrorism charges. Immigration enforcement oddly enough has contributed to recruiting, as deported gangsters bring in new members while back home.
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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May 29, 2001
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Agreed. Instead of deporting them, they should be tried in Federal court on terrorism charges. Immigration enforcement oddly enough has contributed to recruiting, as deported gangsters bring in new members while back home.
I think they should be treated as foreign enemy invaders, dealt with militarily.
 

Brushy Bill

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We need to turn one of our island territories into a modern day Australia and just drop them off the fend for themselves.
 

Popeer

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I think they should be treated as foreign enemy invaders, dealt with militarily.
Good grief. You want the military patrolling the streets of US cities? You need to read up on the laws of posse comitatus while you're waiting for your brown shirt to come back from the laundry.
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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Good grief. You want the military patrolling the streets of US cities? You need to read up on the laws of posse comitatus while you're waiting for your brown shirt to come back from the laundry.
If invaded by a foreign enemy would you want our military patrolling the streets of US cities? You need to read up on the founding and current operation of MS-13 as well as the US Constitution. "Enemies foreign and domestic" ring a bell? You can read up on that while you're waiting for your brown skirt to come back from the laundry.
 

Brushy Bill

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If invaded by a foreign enemy would you want our military patrolling the streets of US cities? You need to read up on the founding and current operation of MS-13 as well as the US Constitution. "Enemies foreign and domestic" ring a bell? You can read up on that while you're waiting for your brown skirt to come back from the laundry.

I think his shirt would probably have a big yellow patch over the abdominal area.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Good grief. You want the military patrolling the streets of US cities? You need to read up on the laws of posse comitatus while you're waiting for your brown shirt to come back from the laundry.
There are numerous examples where this has occcurred in the past, Katrina, Rodney King, etc.

With that said, I don't think he was talking Marshall Law and patrolling the streets. Probably need to dial down your Hitler references you candy ***.
 

WVU82_rivals

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https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...10-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-ms-13-gang

1. MS-13 stands for "Mara Salvatrucha," but the gang is also known as "MS" and "Mara" and its members are known as "Maras." The exact origins of the name are disputed.

2. The gang is traced back to Central American (primarily Salvadoran) refugees inLos Angeles in the 1980s. MS-13 began among the members fleeing a U.S.-backed civil war at home.

3. Membership is now widespread. Gang members are reported in Canada, Central America, Mexico and elsewhere. The group is said to have leadership in El Salvador, and the FBI reports the group's influence continues to expand in the U.S.

3. The U.S. Treasury Department declared the group a transnational criminal organization in October 2012. While declaring the group a TCO, the department linked MS-13 to drug trafficking, kidnapping, human smuggling, sex trafficking, murder, assassinations, racketeering, blackmail, extortion and immigration offenses.

4. The gang is known for its brutality, which is reflected in one of its mottos: “Mata, roba, viola, control a,” or, “Kill, steal, rape, control.”

5. Gang members have been linked to a number of high-profile killings in the U.S., including the September 2016deaths of two teenage girls killed with baseball bats and a machete and a March 2017 killing tied to satanic sacrifice.

6. MS-13 members are known for using a group-specific sign language and sporting tattoos across their bodies that display their gang name and symbols. A common symbol is the "devil's head." Some members, though, have been instructed to limit public visibility of their tattoos.

7. In 2004, then-President George W. Bush supported an FBI task force formed to combat MS-13 crimes and growth. The MS-13 National Gang Task Force coordinates national and international investigations.

8. Attorney General Jeff Sessions vowed that the Justice Department will crack down on violent crime while meeting with federal law enforcement on ways to combat organized crime. Sessions named MS-13 when he said gangs "represent one of the gravest threats to American safety."

9. President Donald Trump mentioned the gang in a tweet. Trump said weak Obama administration immigration policies allowed more gangs to form nationwide.

10. The Treasury Department reported in 2012 that there were at least 8,000 MS-13 members in more than 40 states and the District of Columbia, and 30,000 members internationally.
 

WVU82_rivals

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Nov 4, 2016, 10:38 AM

MS-13 surging with influx of youths crossing border, 92% arrested illegal

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/m...ng-border-92-arrested-illegal/article/2606467

The Latin American crime network MS-13, noted for machete attacks and schoolyard slayings, is using President Obama's loose immigration policies to recruit illegal youths across the border and into towns including Washington, D.C., Boston, Miami and San Francisco, according to a new report out Friday.

Three shocking new details from the Center for Immigration Studies show the problem:

— 92 percent of MS-13 gang members arrested are in the United States illegally.

— 80 percent of the tens of thousands of Latin American youths who've crossed illegally into the United States and were seized by authorities have subsequently been placed with other illegals, some with ties to the gang.

— In calls to track the so-called "unaccompanied alien children" placed with adults in the U.S. illegally, contact has been made with only 56 percent.

"The UACs are often placed with sponsors who are in the United States illegally, with virtually no post-placement oversight by the federal government, exposing both the children and communities to increasingly profound waves of gang violence while perpetuating the illegal immigrant population,"said the CIS report.

The remarkable report found that federal authorities that place the illegal youths have little or no responsibility for what happens to them, even though they know that MS-13 and other killer gangs are recruiting the youths.

Of the 120,000 illegal youths to cross into the U.S. in the past three years, his report said that "thousands of whom have joined MS-13, either through coercion and threats or voluntarily, for protection."


It has helped to revive the gang, once eradicated in many cities before Obama's so-called "catch and release" program with illegal youths.

The report detailed criminal networks in some cities and tied the rise in crime to the growth of MS-13.

It also revealed the challenge to the government in handling the youths. On the one hand, the Office of Refugee Resettlement works hard to find homes for the youths, normally with illegal relatives already in the U.S. But then it stops being responsible and that's where crime gangs get involved.

"While the administration may applaud ORR's efforts at placing these children rapidly, the children are being placed with sponsors who are only lightly vetted and barely followed up on to ensure the children's safety. This has resulted in thousands of these children being placed in Texas, Maryland, Virginia, and New York only to fall prey to the violent grasp of the MS-13 gang, and putting many of these communities in the grip of violence they have never experienced before," said the report.

It also noted that the poor system of tracking the illegals is a warning about how the government will keep track of refugees flooding in from terrorist nations like Syria.

"The record of mismanagement," said the report, "generates concerns that the impending wave of Syrian refugees will be handled with the same strategy, exacerbating the homeland security risk."
 

WVU82_rivals

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SEPTEMBER 08, 2015

Influx of Illegal Alien Minors Energizes Violent U.S. Street Gang MS-13

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2...nors-energizes-violent-u-s-street-gang-ms-13/

A government agency reveals that the nation’s most violent street gang has been energized by the barrage of illegal immigrant minors who have entered the U.S. through Mexico, confirming a Judicial Watch report last summer that gangs were actively recruiting members at shelters housing the new arrivals.

The tens of thousands of illegal immigrants, coined Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) by the government, came mostly from Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. The obama administration rolled out the welcome mat, quickly offering housing, food, medical treatment and a free education. The UACs have brought in
dangerous diseases—including swine flu, dengue fever, Ebola virus and tuberculosis— and have occupied our military bases as shelters. Many have been disbursed throughout the U.S., igniting a crisis for overwhelmed public school districts nationwide.

As soon as the UACs started arriving, Homeland Security sources told Judicial Watch that many had ties to gang members in the U.S. In fact, JW reported last July that street gangs—including Mara Salvatrucha or MS-13—went on a recruiting frenzy at U.S. shelters housing the illegal immigrant minors and they were using Red Cross phones to communicate. The MS-13 is a
feared street gang of mostly Central American illegal immigrants that’s spread throughout the U.S. and is renowned for drug distribution, murder, rape, robbery, home invasions, kidnappings, vandalism and other violent crimes. The Justice Department’s National Gang Intelligence Center (NGIC) says criminal street gangs like the MS-13 are responsible for the majority of violent crimes in the U.S. and are the primary distributors of most illicit drugs.

Now the Texas Department of Public Safety confirms that the MS-13 has emerged as a top tier gang in Texas this year thanks to the influx of illegal alien gang members that crossed into the state last year. In a
19-page report, the agency writes that the number of MS-13 members encountered by U.S. Border Patrol in the Rio Grande Valley sector has increased each year, accelerating in 2014 and coinciding with increased illegal immigration from Central America during the same period. This clearly refers to the UAC crisis that saw over 60,000 illegal immigrants—many with criminal histories—storm into the U.S. in a matter of months.

Authorities in Texas expect the problem will only get worse. “Gang members from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador could be destined for locations in Texas with large Central American communities, including the Houston and Dallas areas,” the Texas Department of Safety writes in its report. Even if that doesn’t materialize, the state already has a serious gang crisis. “Reports of increased MS-13 gang activity have already surfaced in the Houston area,” the Department of Safety confirms. “MS-13 gang members are known for highly violent crimes, including brutal murders and dismemberments. Several recent crimes in Texas illustrate the criminal threat associated with MS-13.”

Here are some gruesome examples included in the agency’s report: “On September 15, 2014, the mutilated body of a 14-year-old middle school student was discovered in the woods near Houston after he was murdered with a machete. Initial information from the investigation indicates the victim was a U.S. citizen and an MS-13 member who was murdered after trying to leave the gang. In October 2014, a 14-year-old and three adult males were arrested and charged with murder in this case. The adult males are from El Salvador, and at least two are documented MS-13 gang members. In mid-August 2014, a 29-year-old 18th Street gang member was stabbed to death in Houston by a 16-year-old El Salvadoran member of MS-13. The victim suffered multiple stab wounds outside of a bar and was discovered a few days later in a bayou. According to investigators, the juvenile suspect revealed he illegally crossed into the U.S. in March 2014.”

Another huge concern is the relationship between street gangs and Mexican drug cartels, the report says, because it’s a very profitable partnership. “These groups pose the greatest gang threat to Texas due to their relationships with Mexican cartels, high levels of transnational criminal activity, level of violence, and overall statewide presence.” The lucrative gang/cartel business endeavors are also expanding into human smuggling and gambling, the Texas Department of Safety reveals in its report.
 

PriddyBoy

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May 29, 2001
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Good grief. You want the military patrolling the streets of US cities? You need to read up on the laws of posse comitatus while you're waiting for your brown shirt to come back from the laundry.
I may be wrong, Popeer, but my initial reaction to 'dealt with militarily' was in military court.
 

dave

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May 29, 2001
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Good grief. You want the military patrolling the streets of US cities? You need to read up on the laws of posse comitatus while you're waiting for your brown shirt to come back from the laundry.
Could you shove your smug attitude? There is only room for one sarcastic ******** here and I was here first.
 

bornaneer

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Good grief. You want the military patrolling the streets of US cities? You need to read up on the laws of posse comitatus while you're waiting for your brown shirt to come back from the laundry.
Maybe Trump should send the military into Chicago. Looks like a war zone.
July to Date
Shot & Killed: 62
Total Shot: 380
Total Homicides: 69

Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 376
Total Shot: 2154
Total Homicides: 408
 

bornaneer

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Chicago Final July Totals (YoY)
Shot & Killed: 70 (+9%)
Total Shot: 425 (-5%)
Total Homicides: 77 (+4%)

Chicago Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 384
Total Shot: 2202
Total Homicides: 417