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Insane idea: SHOOT ONLY THREES!

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GoodOl'Rutgers

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Insane idea: SHOOT ONLY THREES!

That's right.. train them before next game to run sets to produce open threes for anyone and everyone.. make a rule where they take the three attempt.. THEN they can get a board and do somehting else.

I am NOT saying to do this for an enire game... I am saying tell the team that this will be the plan.. PERIOD. Start the game like this... if it show benefits.. keep it going awhile.. otherwise just go back to same-ol same-ol ISO BS. But I think the effort to train them as if this were the plan might snap them out of this lack of creativity on offense.. especially swining the ball around the outside.

Create three-point shots instead of desperation 3-point chucks as shot clock drains.

We have to be able tohit threes to win.. we need a way to get out of that slump. three-point shooting is just too important in the game these days.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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dpwhite said:
Some of you need to take a break from the computer.
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yeah.. we should never take threes again.. not try to break out of the slump somehow.. allow players to continue to fear taking threes.. just push it inside with never a dish for an open three... because that would look a lot like winning basketball these days.

Other rules of thumb have been used.. like 5 passes per posession.. no shots in first 15 seconds.. get the ball inside every possession... I just thik we need somehting to snap out of this instead of leaning into the weakness and stop taking threes.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers said:
yeah.. we should never take threes again.. not try to break out of the slump somehow.. allow players to continue to fear taking threes.. just push it inside with never a dish for an open three... because that would look a lot like winning basketball these days.
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So let me get this straight...

You are genuinely proposing that Rutgers, a team that shoots 31% from 3, shoot only 3ā€™s to start a ā€œmust-winā€ game?

I thought you were joking at first ā€” we donā€™t shoot poorly because weā€™re in a ā€œslumpā€, we shoot poorly because this team has no shooters. The only thing keeping us competitive in games lately is our fast starts ā€” why jeopardize that with a barrage of shots that we suck at
 
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Second insane idea - Ignore conventional recruiting and build a team of transfer portal players, only. The inverse of Kentuckyā€™s roster full of one-and-dones.
 
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ScarletKid2008

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3 point shots (and perimeter focused offense) typically gives the offense a lower chance of opportunity for an offensive rebound - which used to be one of our strengths. You have more offensive players standing around the 3 point line and the off ball defensive players are slouched in towards the paint, so they'll have significant advantage on numbers to rebound.

So if your thought is focus on threes and offensive rebounding .. my counter is that shooting more threes hurts the latter.
 
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RU206

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I would rather every shot attempt to be a dunk. Must more entertaining than all 3s
 
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RUich

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Start looking for high energy players like Young that can shoot foul shots.
 
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Greene Rice FIG said:
I have a much better idea. Play a lineup with Luke Nathan. When Jacob crosses the half court line Luke gets on all fours and barks like a dog. The other team will be distracted and Jacob will drive for an uncontested layup.
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Actually, this would probably be more effective than the OPā€™s idea.
 
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Against Maryland Geo, Caleb, and Myles had zero attempts at the free throw line, which means they were not driving to the basket. Against a smaller team. That's inexcusable. How about taking it to the basket more, either with designed plays or isos? And we had 15 turnovers. And put Maryland on the FT line for 28 attempts (twice ours). We were bad in many ways, and the solution is to try to improve on all of them.
 
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rubaseball78_rivals

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GoodOl'Rutgers said:
yeah.. we should never take threes again.. not try to break out of the slump somehow.. allow players to continue to fear taking threes.. just push it inside with never a dish for an open three... because that would look a lot like winning basketball these days.

Other rules of thumb have been used.. like 5 passes per posession.. no shots in first 15 seconds.. get the ball inside every possession... I just thik we need somehting to snap out of this instead of leaning into the weakness and stop taking threes.
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You treat as if itā€™s black and white, itā€™s not. We are already very good at holding ball 15 seconds without a shot. In fact we are very good at holding ball 28 seconds without a shot.
 
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People are making fun of you but there is no problem with the three-point shot volume. They shoot threes at the second-lowest rate in the Big Ten. It's almost irresponsible to shoot less threes than Rutgers already does. It just needs to knock them down.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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rubaseball78 said:
You treat as if itā€™s black and white, itā€™s not. We are already very good at holding ball 15 seconds without a shot. In fact we are very good at holding ball 28 seconds without a shot.
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That was just an example of coach mandates used in college bball.. I hate that we use the whole clock.. Especially early in games when no one needs a breather... I just think our poor three point shooting is the residue of not moving the ball so someone gets a good opportunity... And if we stress that, then hitting a few open 3s will open up everything else

As for our poor 3pt shooting percent.. I wonder how are shots in the paint shooting percent measures up to other teams.. We seem to have o mss a lot of short range junk and we miss FTs too.

I really think we need to fix the three.. Or die trying
 
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koleszar

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Here's another crazy idea, have them only drive the lane and attempt layups. O wait, we suck at them too.
 
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Greene Rice FIG said:
I have a much better idea. Play a lineup with Luke Nathan. When Jacob crosses the half court line Luke gets on all fours and barks like a dog. The other team will be distracted and Jacob will drive for an uncontested layup.
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Gudenham said:
People are making fun of you but there is no problem with the three-point shot volume. They shoot threes at the second-lowest rate in the Big Ten. It's almost irresponsible to shoot less threes than Rutgers already does. It just needs to knock them down.
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You need good shooters for that. It's only irresponsible to shoot a low number of threes when you have players who can actually make them.
 
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LotusAggressor said:
You need good shooters for that. It's only irresponsible to shoot a low number of threes when you have players who can actually make them.
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Giving up on shooting threes will only clog the lane more. Rutgers is already awful at finishing at the rim, and that will only make it worse. If you don't stretch the floor, you don't win in college basketball. You live and die by the three, even through the struggles. No matter how good you are at midrange jumpers, you can't win in college basketball living off those.
 
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Gudenham said:
Giving up on shooting threes will only clog the lane more. Rutgers is already awful at finishing at the rim, and that will only make it worse. If you don't stretch the floor, you don't win in college basketball. You live and die by the three, even through the struggles. No matter how good you are at midrange jumpers, you can't win in college basketball living off those.
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You can also make the argument they create long rebounds for second opportunities.
Often those rebounds result in wide open re-shots or a scrambling defense that opens up a drive to the basket
 
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zappaa said:
You can also make the argument they create long rebound for second opportunities.
Often those rebounds result in wide open re-shots or a scrambling defense that opens up a drive to the basket
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Three pointers or midrange jumpers?
 
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fluoxetine

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Let's invert the 1-5 positions. Have Myles bring the ball up court and guard the point guard. Geo can guard the center and post up.
 
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zappaa

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They donā€™t even guard Myles in the high post at foul line distance when heā€™s facing the basket....Iā€™ve never seen him shoot
 
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fluoxetine

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zappaa said:
They donā€™t even guard Myles in the high post at foul line distance when heā€™s facing the basket....Iā€™ve never seen him shoot
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Well he's a 39% FT shooter so I wouldn't guard him there either lol.
 
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