With Kansas getting to 6 wins....Nebraska is the only P5 football team to not make a bowl game since 2017. The only one.
How did this happen?
How did this happen?
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You have the Shermantor hire Mr Rodgers and then Moos hires someone that would rather be a party animal than a football coach. Since 2014 we have had one season with more than 6 wins. So the bar is at an all time low. Pathetic, I hope Ruhle is the next coach here.
In 2017 there were 41 bowl games. This year there will be 43 bowl games.
So, a minimum of 82 teams each year, but no Huskers.
A football program that deserves to be playing in a half-empty stadium.
Not getting to 6 wins is really embarrassing. We basically play 2 gimme games each year ooc and play in a weak division. To fail to do this six years in a row is just a downright failure.
I suppose it depends on how one defines "within". I'm not advocating for anyone, certainly not Joseph, but if you look at the hires since Osborne:
Solich: Obviously within
Callahan: Outsider
Pelini: Outsider (but coached at Nebraska 4 seasons prior)
Riley:
OutsiderFrost: Outsider (never coached at Nebraska)
I guess I'm unsure what you mean, other than that you don't want Joseph. Which is fine.
The reason for this years failure sits behind Trev's desk.
Trev didn't we have enough drama and controversy with Scott Fraud? Then you manufactured some with the interim coach ******** coaching search.
Thanks for the ****** season Trev.
Takes like this make me laugh.
We all are pissed about how things have played out. But what drama has been manufactured with the interim coach and coaching search? Should the interim coach have gone to someone else? And what has he done wrong with the coaching search?
It sucks that we had an AD that was such a ***** that he could not handle working with Bo so he canned him.
If anything, I feel like there has been a lack of drama with the search, it is super quiet.
Bo needed to go, it was only a matter of time he would have went full blown woody Hayes
Yeah, but haven't you noticed the 180, er the 37 that the team has done since Frost was canned?
The facts are interesting, but I did not need a reminder that Nebraska has been one of the worst programs in America for about 8 years.
It's much more convenient to just live a lie, like the phony sellout streak, NU has the greatest fans in the country, we recruit only student-athletes, and a new facility will vault NU back to the top even if the wrong coach is in charge.
I definitely think you have a point. On the one hand if Trev is SERIOUSLY considering hiring MJ then I guess sure, make him the interim. Maybe Trev is being calculating and he knows that MJ is the kinda guy that will build public support. But if he ends up hiring someone else after 70% of these fans fall in love with MJ, then all he did was turn up the heat on the skillet without realizing he was cooking his own ***.
I think it is just "different' for us than it is for fans at other schools that are used to be lame.
I had no idea how crappy NU had been since (the mistake of firing) Bo. We were so good for so long that we even started to create wild stories as to why we had to fire good coaches. Then when it seemed like the stars aligned for us with Frost...we were, like you said, just okay with it all being a lie.
All I want now, as a HC, is a total grinder. Someone who only cares about coaching and recruiting. I don't even care if they don't have a personality. I would prefer that they are funny but still.
No doubt the sellout streak has been rescued a few times BUT it is totally impressive to me that the gap has been close enough that it COULD be rescued or that dedicated boosters are willing to step up during a time of such a horrible record on the field. That's a more impressive sellout performance than if the team had been winning championships because it's easy to sell a winner, not easy at all to sell a loser.
After this year, I'm not even sure I would have used the qualifier "one of." For sure we're THE worst P5 program in the country. Hard to comprehend.
Our problems post-Osborne can be directly linked to a down tick in recruiting. Solich did well so long as he coached Osborne's recruits. But he and his staff did not recruit well and the downward slide began in 2002 exactly four years after he took over. You could already see it a bit in 2001 despite our good record which was more the product of one truly exceptional player -- Crouch -- than it was excellence across the board which is why we got exposed by CU and then Miami at the end. But Solich should have been retained if for no other reason that firing him ended the reign of college football's most unique offense which fit well with Nebraska. It was our damn identity and firing Solich killed that identity.
Callahan recruited very well and should have been retained but forced to fire Cosgrove. I truly think his recruiting could have gotten us somewhere since he was an excellent offensive line coach and offensive coach in general. And in the year he was fired he had some big time offensive line commits lined up who bailed. All that was missing was defensive coaching. Callahan was the victim of the fact that he took over a mere seven years post-Osborne and so the long shadow of the 90's and the expectations that era raised was still in force.
Pelini's staff was decent but not great at recruiting which is why all of his teams were just "decent" but got boat raced by the very good teams. And even his defense became very average once he lost Callahan's recruits (Suh anyone?) Suh was yet another example of Callahan's excellent recruiting. One of the best defensive lineman in the history of the game.
Riley and Frost both had early success at recruiting but mainly with skill position players. Both coaches failed miserably to recruit high level elite lineman on both sides of the ball.
Our next coach and his staff must be elite recruiters. If they aren't then we will be right back here in three to four years having this same conversation.
Callahan recruited very well and should have been retained but forced to fire Cosgrove. I truly think his recruiting could have gotten us somewhere since he was an excellent offensive line coach and offensive coach in general. And in the year he was fired he had some big time offensive line commits lined up who bailed. All that was missing was defensive coaching. Callahan was the victim of the fact that he took over a mere seven years post-Osborne and so the long shadow of the 90's and the expectations that era raised was still in force.
Pelini's staff was decent but not great at recruiting which is why all of his teams were just "decent" but got boat raced by the very good teams. And even his defense became very average once he lost Callahan's recruits (Suh anyone?) Suh was yet another example of Callahan's excellent recruiting. One of the best defensive lineman in the history of the game.
Riley and Frost both had early success at recruiting but mainly with skill position players. Both coaches failed miserably to recruit high level elite lineman on both sides of the ball.
Our next coach and his staff must be elite recruiters. If they aren't then we will be right back here in three to four years having this same conversation.
This is super confusing. Mickey has worked his tail off, hasn’t created any ill will with the players/program while coaching under the interim tag, and Trev hasn’t done anything during the search to embarrass or undermine Mickey or the current staff. Without the internet or message board, this would be one of the quietest seasons of the past several years when it comes to in season controversy(outside of the first 3 weeks of course). The only shitshow during this search has been manifested by fans.
Alex, I'd like, "Things that Scott Frost did while head coach at Nebraska." for $400.
I think an equally worse stat was the one from the MN game. 0-34 after being behind by 10 or more. 34 games in a row. How far does that go back? Quite a way probably and this is MN.
As soon as the announcer said it, I knew we were going to screw it up.
We just keep finding ways to set the wrong records in a major way. If Jim Harbaugh is not nice Saturday, we may see some other offensive rushing records be broken.
I'm speaking only for myself here. I'm a Mickey guy. Is he the right guy? I don't know, but there are only a couple of guys who I think are proven capable of getting this turned around in a couple of years. Ruhle and O'Brien, and I don't love either one of them.
We all know Ruhle's history at Temple and Baylor, we also know O'Brien took over a dumpster fire at PSU and still managed to make them competitive despite the obstacles. Had he stayed long-term, he very well may have made them the #2 or #3 team in the Big Ten on a permanent basis, rather than the hit-and-miss they've been.
NU has dug such a deep hole for itself in so many areas that are critical to having a good football program. S & C, a lack of serious commitment in targeting JUCOs and portal linemen on both sides of the ball.
NU can have all the skill people we need, yet the whole thing centers around the big boys, of which, we are void.
We all have a right to be frustrated in our own little way. We can keep it to ourselves, or we can vent a little, or a lot, on this site. I don't hold it against anyone who is pissed, frustrated, or any other emotion. Even when I tend to disagree, I still believe they believe what they post.
In one way or another, we are just blowing off steam for having become a laughingstock of college football. We don't have to return to the glory years, but I don't think a winning season every once in a while is asking too much.
I don't know if Mickey is the guy, but whether it's inside or outside is irrelevant.I suppose it depends on how one defines "within". I'm not advocating for anyone, certainly not Joseph, but if you look at the hires since Osborne:
Solich: Obviously within
Callahan: Outsider
Pelini: Outsider (but coached at Nebraska 4 seasons prior)
Riley:
Frost: Outsider (never coached at Nebraska)
I guess I'm unsure what you mean, other than that you don't want Joseph. Which is fine.
Devaney - Outside guy who built a juggernaut.
Osborne - Inside guy who maintained the juggernaut and left it better than when we got it.
Solich - Inside guy who maintained the juggernaut but let it slip a little bit. Who knows what would have happened if they had treated Solich the same way at the end of 2003 as they did Osborne at the end of the 1976 season.
Callahan - Outside guy - Fail
Pelini - Inside and outside guy - Good success but just not to TO 1995 standards.
Riley - Outside guy - Fail
Frost - Inside and outside guy - Worse fail than Riley
As you can see, we have had success with inside guys and with outside guys. We have also failed with both.
I'm still leaning to a guy who has had success coaching somewhere else, but more critical is what they try to do here. If they try to do things the way Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, etc. do things, they will fail no matter what, because it's just a fact, we can't get to that level of recruiting, no matter how good our facilities are or how nice our Heisman room is.
We have a coaching staff that's disjointed and illogical. There are some good technical coaches and some good recruiters here now, but they just can't get it done on game day. Whipple proved that the past 2 weeks.
But I will tell you one thing, I would take Mickey with a return to the offensive and defensive schemes and coaching we had in the 1990s over someone more experienced and with a P5 record who comes in here and tries to do spread crap and a 3-4.
I don't think Mickey can do this. He's been coaching for 20 years in systems that looking nothing like 90's Nebraska. Most of his experience is in the south with super talented rosters that run modern offenses. And, if hired, he's going to assemble a staff of coaches that come from various place, none of which resemble 90s Nebraska. If you really want Nebraska to "go back in time" we simply need to hire the coach with an existing staff that is already coaching and winning with a dedication to the run and physical defense. Who would that be? I don't know. I just don't see Mickey doing it, because that's not what he's been coaching for 20 years.
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Hey man, we’d be lucky if that unemployed guy would come back and tell us all how we shouldn’t care, and that he’s a great defensive mind. Never mind that he owns the majority of the worst defensive performances in team history, those were just flukes! Flukes I say! Let’s bring back Bo!