Indiana will be in DENIAL forever

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Rutgers has owned IU, and still, the fans, the players, and the local IU media thinks every win by Rutgers is a fluke. Winning 5 in a row and 7 of the last 8 is not a FLUKE. It's a routine @sswhooping.

There is a podcast called Assembly Call, and they do a postgame breakdown of each IU game. Every year the guys on the show are shocked that Rutgers continues to beat IU. The one guy, Ryan Phillips, is a total @ss and continues to talk down about Rutgers regardless of how good Rutgers has been the last few years. Phillips dismisses Rutgers as a run-of-the-mill Quad 3 team that IU should put away with ease. Does this guy realize Rutgers can finish as high as 4th in the B1G? What an @ss. What does that say about the rest of the league?

 

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DORKS PERSONIFIED 😂 Never played hoops in their lives
 

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Combining really weird with super arrogant is a strange concoction, but that’s the best way I can describe Indiana fans.

From my brief interactions with them at the Big Ten tournament in 2018, to the lunatics that wear the candycane striped pants at the Rac, they are definitely a strange (and delusional) bunch living in the past
 
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I listened to that this morning and agree
Very entertaining though lol
Phillips spends most of the time when he isn’t speaking rubbing his head and face. He looks like he belongs in a straight jacket.
 

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Just listened to most of that podcast. While that dude Phillips is an entitled prick who cannot comprehend that Rutgers can even compete with Indiana let alone beat them 5 times in a row.....the other two guys, especially Jerod Morris, were more than fair in their review of the game, and gave ample credit to Rutgers for hitting shots that IU missed, and being far tougher than Indiana.
 

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Did you hear the broadcast of the game?

It was unbelievably condescending toward Rutgers. The color guy constantly celebrated Indiana plays and offered his unsolicited advice to lowly Rutgers.

Damn FS1 (and even BTN) .. no doubt has broadcast teams that basically homers for certain programs... but never for Rutgers.

Man.. just watched about half that podcast.. the rant guy (who ent third) was not wrong about a culture change being needed. Had not realized they have already missed 5 NCAA tourneys in a row. Which is just awful, boo-hoo (as Rutgers fans we had missed, what was it.. almost 20 years?).

I have to wonder if these old-name programs attract the wrong type of players. I think of Texas football that way. That is, getting the offer from Texas used to be the be-all end-all of Texas HS football. And actually working to WIN for Texas became secondary over time because just being on the team granted some level of elite status in the state. Maybe the same thing happens in Indiana. Meanwhile, at Rutgers, any success.. any "status" the players hope to achieve is entirely up to them and hard work.
 
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ColonelRutgers

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I listened to that whole thing last night and I could not disagree with your take any stronger. I think we were listening to a different show. They were highly complimentary of Pikiell and the mental and physical toughness that he has instilled in this program and that his players demonstrate. Trust me, I'm always listening for someone belittling RU. The one guy, Ryan Phillips, is definitely a real fan and I was waiting for him to disparage but he didn't. He marvelled at our toughness. All I heard was respect. The only thing that was mentioned near the end was that they're a program that should be in position to be better than us. This is a team with a rabid fan base, a great home arena, and a tremendous tradition that includes overall 5 National Championships. Of course a program like that shouldn't be losing 7 of 8 to us if they're playing up to expectations.
 
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RUPete

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Just listened to most of that podcast. While that dude Phillips is an entitled prick who cannot comprehend that Rutgers can even compete with Indiana let alone beat them 5 times in a row.....the other two guys, especially Jerod Morris, were more than fair in their review of the game, and gave ample credit to Rutgers for hitting shots that IU missed, and being far tougher than Indiana.
That was my observation too. Said Rutgers has an identity and that's why they keep beating IU.
 

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Last 8 vs. Indiana:

W - 3/2/22 - Away - 66-63
W - 3/11/21 - Neutral - 61-50
W - 2/24/21 - Home - 74-63
W - 1/23/21 - Away - 74-70
W - 1/15/20 - Home - 59-50
L - 3/10/19 - Away - 73-89
W - 1/30/19 - Home - 66-58
W - 3/1/18 - Neutral - 76-69
 
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I listened to that whole thing last night and I could not disagree with your take any stronger. I think we were listening to a different show. They were highly complimentary of Pikiell and the mental and physical toughness that he has instilled in this program and that his players demonstrate. Trust me, I'm always listening for someone belittling RU. The one guy, Ryan Phillips, is definitely a real fan and I was waiting for him to disparage but he didn't. He marvelled at our toughness. All I heard was respect. The only thing that was mentioned near the end was that they're a program that should be in position to be better than us. This is a team with a rabid fan base, a great home arena, and a tremendous tradition that includes overall 5 National Championships. Of course a program like that shouldn't be losing 7 of 8 to us if they're playing up to expectations.
Ryan Phillips didn't start out being kind to Rutgers. I think the other guys led him down the path of giving Rutgers some respect. Also, I've listened to the last three podcasts of IU/RU games, which is the closest they have been to being complimentary to us.
 

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They are quite complementary of Rutgers especially the toughness of the team = go to minutes 32 - 35
 

ColonelRutgers

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Ryan Phillips didn't start out being kind to Rutgers. I think the other guys led him down the path of giving Rutgers some respect. Also, I've listened to the last three podcasts of IU/RU games, which is the closest they have been to being complimentary to us.
We aren't very kind to our opponents when we lose a game either. He's definitely speaking from a diehard fan's perspective and we all tend to focus on our own deficiencies rather than our opponents' strengths. They definitely had to talk him off the ledge and convince him to actually talk about the game.
 

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Was pretty funny last year in Indy. You'd be at sports bars with fans from Rutgers, Michigan, Illinois, Purdue, Winthrop, Abilene Christian etc all being served by Indiana fans.

They at least appreciated that we helped get Archie fired.
 

rutcor

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Which is just awful, boo-hoo (as Rutgers fans we had missed, what was it.. almost 20 years?).
 

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Rutgers has owned IU, and still, the fans, the players, and the local IU media thinks every win by Rutgers is a fluke. Winning 5 in a row and 7 of the last 8 is not a FLUKE. It's a routine @sswhooping.

There is a podcast called Assembly Call, and they do a postgame breakdown of each IU game. Every year the guys on the show are shocked that Rutgers continues to beat IU. The one guy, Ryan Phillips, is a total @ss and continues to talk down about Rutgers regardless of how good Rutgers has been the last few years. Phillips dismisses Rutgers as a run-of-the-mill Quad 3 team that IU should put away with ease. Does this guy realize Rutgers can finish as high as 4th in the B1G? What an @ss. What does that say about the rest of the league?


What it says is that some schools and their local media still don't believe Rutgers should be a member of the Big Ten.
 
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Scangg

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They are the Nebraska football of college basketball
This is exactly it

It is fun to see them all realize how much tougher Rutgers is and be jealous about it

Their board is in complete meltdown mode and it's fun to see bc of their arrogance in spite of the recent domination we have had over them

Overall the least respectful of Rutgers as a program that I have seen from other B1G boards who have universally had respect for us and Pike this year from what I have seen
 
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Last 8 vs. Indiana:

W - 3/2/22 - Away - 66-63
W - 3/11/21 - Neutral - 61-50
W - 2/24/21 - Home - 74-63
W - 1/23/21 - Away - 74-70
W - 1/15/20 - Home - 59-50
L - 3/10/19 - Away - 73-89
W - 1/30/19 - Home - 66-58
W - 3/1/18 - Neutral - 76-69

Can't help but juxtapose these two posts and key in on the date of March 10, 2019 (the last time IU beat RU) and the 3-year old tweet that Geo recycled late last night to make his point about Rutgers being disrespected about its worthiness in the B1G. And that was even after two consecutive RU victories over IU prior to that.

Since 2019 it's been 5 RU wins in a row, 2 at the RAC, 2 at Assembly Hall, and once in the B1G tourney. No better way to shut up the naysayers than to prove it on the court. Good for Geo and his teammates over these past few seasons to have that chip on their shoulders and do just that.
 
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DirtyRU

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They are quite complementary of Rutgers especially the toughness of the team = go to minutes 32 - 35
Agreed. Was bored as I sat here and designed for my 9-5 today so I listened to the entire thing. Bottom guy got douchy on his rant, but softened up perhaps a "little bit" later on in the podcast. Other two guys were VERY complimentary, not just of our win last night, but of our program and Pike in general, citing us getting wins with a toughness mentality over talent edge for several years now in the B1G. Likes the identity of our program and knows IU needs that toughness aspect as a program.
 

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I grew up in Indiana and moved away when I was 16.

My school was South Putnam, one of 4 schools in Putnam County. It was a newer school and including 7th and 8th grade had a total of about 720 kids. Yet the gym had two tiers of bleachers on each side. When the upper level bleachers were folded up, there was room for gymnastic equipment on one side like the horse, balance beam, parallel bars, etc. And I remember having a dance in the space behind the upper level bleachers on the other side.

Every basketball game was an event. Cafeteria was opened for snacks and "pop" at halftime.
Once in a while would get our butts kicked by teams from large high schools from Terra Haute. Indiana being basketball intense is no joke. I wasn't even aware of college basketball then.

Was shocked when I found out our high school here, West Morris Central (about 2,500 kids), has a newer gym with one small section of seats on each side. Probably less than 1/4 of the seating. Clearly not the same level of interest in bball overall.

Love NJ but just trying to help you folks understand some of that entitled feeling of some Hoosier fans. The movie may have been fiction but the intensity and passion of the fans at the grassroots level was pretty real.
 

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FWIW, Indiana is the only B1G school that has not had at least one winning conference record during the last 6 seasons.

And I know what you're thinking - yes, even Nebraska.
And yet they are picked by most analysts to be 8-9 seed in the NCAAs
 
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I grew up in Indiana and moved away when I was 16.

My school was South Putnam, one of 4 schools in Putnam County. It was a newer school and including 7th and 8th grade had a total of about 720 kids. Yet the gym had two tiers of bleachers on each side. When the upper level bleachers were folded up, there was room for gymnastic equipment on one side like the horse, balance beam, parallel bars, etc. And I remember having a dance in the space behind the upper level bleachers on the other side.

Every basketball game was an event. Cafeteria was opened for snacks and "pop" at halftime.
Once in a while would get our butts kicked by teams from large high schools from Terra Haute. Indiana being basketball intense is no joke. I wasn't even aware of college basketball then.

Was shocked when I found out our high school here, West Morris Central (about 2,500 kids), has a newer gym with one small section of seats on each side. Probably less than 1/4 of the seating. Clearly not the same level of interest in bball overall.

Love NJ but just trying to help you folks understand some of that entitled feeling of some Hoosier fans. The movie may have been fiction but the intensity and passion of the fans at the grassroots level was pretty real.
What the hell is "pop?" 😜 I know it's soda.

West Morris Central is a lousy example of basketball in NJ. I went to Hackensack High, and our gym's capacity was around 4K. For safety reasons, it has been reduced to 3.3K.

The other thing is NJ is good in multiple sports, so kids' interest is spread over a wide area. NJ is ranked nation for basketball, football, soccer, lacrosse, etc.
 

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Can't help but juxtapose these two posts and key in on the date of March 10, 2019 (the last time IU beat RU) and the 3-year old tweet that Geo recycled late last night to make his point about Rutgers being disrespected about its worthiness in the B1G. And that was even after two consecutive RU victories over IU prior to that.

Since 2019 it's been 5 RU wins in a row, 2 at the RAC, 2 at Assembly Hall, and once in the B1G tourney. No better way to shut up the naysayers than to prove it on the court. Good for Geo and his teammates over these past few seasons to have that chip on their shoulders and do just that.
The tourney game against Indiana remains as one of my favorite RU games, specifically the last several minutes of the first half , when we came from about 16 down to take the lead in a short period of time
 

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I grew up in Indiana and moved away when I was 16.

My school was South Putnam, one of 4 schools in Putnam County. It was a newer school and including 7th and 8th grade had a total of about 720 kids. Yet the gym had two tiers of bleachers on each side. When the upper level bleachers were folded up, there was room for gymnastic equipment on one side like the horse, balance beam, parallel bars, etc. And I remember having a dance in the space behind the upper level bleachers on the other side.

Every basketball game was an event. Cafeteria was opened for snacks and "pop" at halftime.
Once in a while would get our butts kicked by teams from large high schools from Terra Haute. Indiana being basketball intense is no joke. I wasn't even aware of college basketball then.

Was shocked when I found out our high school here, West Morris Central (about 2,500 kids), has a newer gym with one small section of seats on each side. Probably less than 1/4 of the seating. Clearly not the same level of interest in bball overall.

Love NJ but just trying to help you folks understand some of that entitled feeling of some Hoosier fans. The movie may have been fiction but the intensity and passion of the fans at the grassroots level was pretty real.
Entitlement is one thing, as you have five natys and Knight was one of the all-time greats.

It’s the pure arrogance of the ones I saw the garden, combined with a bunch of complete weirdos that invade the Rac, that has skewed my view of IU basketball.

I understand the adoration for a Knight, as again he was a a legend.. But at the end of the day, he definitely tarnished his legacy with his actions.

And in retrospect, w the beef with him and K has come to light and it’s not showing a positive light on him.

Still I’d like to get over to assembly Hall as it is one of the absolute palaces of college basketball and iconic venues with all the history etc.
 

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Found a pic of the gym online. It seats 2,264 for a jr sr high school that used to total about 720 kids!
Other local high school gyms were similar and this is in a rural, sparsely populated area. FFA was the largest club in school by far. (Future Farmers of America!)

South Putnam Jr Sr High School Gym
 
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I grew up in Indiana and moved away when I was 16.

My school was South Putnam, one of 4 schools in Putnam County. It was a newer school and including 7th and 8th grade had a total of about 720 kids. Yet the gym had two tiers of bleachers on each side. When the upper level bleachers were folded up, there was room for gymnastic equipment on one side like the horse, balance beam, parallel bars, etc. And I remember having a dance in the space behind the upper level bleachers on the other side.

Every basketball game was an event. Cafeteria was opened for snacks and "pop" at halftime.
Once in a while would get our butts kicked by teams from large high schools from Terra Haute. Indiana being basketball intense is no joke. I wasn't even aware of college basketball then.

Was shocked when I found out our high school here, West Morris Central (about 2,500 kids), has a newer gym with one small section of seats on each side. Probably less than 1/4 of the seating. Clearly not the same level of interest in bball overall.

Love NJ but just trying to help you folks understand some of that entitled feeling of some Hoosier fans. The movie may have been fiction but the intensity and passion of the fans at the grassroots level was pretty real.
When I tell others about our recent records vs Indiana and Purdue they are usually surprised. And I end up saying that basketball in a religion in Indiana and we are beating them in front of 15,000 Indianans.
 
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