Indiana is a "Has Been"

Xception

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They had 2 titles before Knight. They aren't Kentucky, but they do have a pedigree.
I'd say twenty years of steady decline is more than enough proof to support my post , the other two titles were won in a completely different era that we'll never see again .

A slew of teams that won titles in the old days couldn't win one today . If they had won something in the modern era without Knight then I see it but a 40 and 53 title aren't enough for me to consider them anything but a Knight made product . I don't have a problem with you thinking otherwise and using the titles to do it .
 

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I'd say twenty years of steady decline is more than enough proof to support my post , the other two titles were won in a completely different era that we'll never see again .

A slew of teams that won titles in the old days couldn't win one today . If they had won something in the modern era without Knight then I see it but a 40 and 53 title aren't enough for me to consider them anything but a Knight made product . I don't have a problem with you thinking otherwise and using the titles to do it .
So we must be sitting at 4 by your standard. Thank heavens we got that one in 2012 then.
 

Xception

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So we must be sitting at 4 by your standard. Thank heavens we got that one in 2012 then.
Because we've won it in in so many different eras with five different coaches is the point , they all count but winning it when only whites were allowed to play does and for one coach is not very broad . They're Bobby Knight U
 

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I live in Indy. They talk like they won the national title last year.
THIS!.......Someone mentioned yesterday on one of the "drive home" talk shows that one of the main highlights of the Crean era was that win over The Cats back in Dec. of 2011. They (IU fans) treat that victory like most IU fans treat those fading, falling apart, dusty and deteriorating banners. And a Big 10 title? They treat those like solid gold. Like CarolinaCatsFan said, some act like they won the title last year because they won the Big 10 and beat Kentucky in the tourney. Well, good for them. Now, go find another coach. And make sure he's a clone of corporal bobby......
 
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Maybe not currently, he'd be taking the job not its previous accomplishments, its a top 6 job. I'm just saying the money is there and he's shown interest, or at least his agent has, and talks are ongoing. Its not the pipe dream some make it out to be.

The dickens you say? -U. Jed [laughing]
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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There are only a couple coaches capable of resurrecting quickly. One is Calipari. I'm not sure who the other might be. It has to be a coach currently at a top program. Otherwise, they are looking at a 5 year rebuild at the least.
 

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This is what the younguns don't remember


At one point both IU and UK had 5 titles a piece. That's put IU well above the likes of Kansas, UNC, and Duke (who was an afterthought until the 90s) at the time.

For elite programs you had UCLA, Kentucky, and Indiana. IU with their fanbase and winning was considered almost as much as a power on the national stage as Kentucky - but in the past 25 years they've sat on their hands while every blue blood has added to their resume. Hell, even programs like Michigan State and Louisville have almost caught up to Indiana in many accomplishments and surpassed them in others

Must be tough for the state to have 2 prestigious program that are both relics of old (IU basketball and ND football). Couldn't happen to a better group of people though. Indiana sux
 

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iu is a top program only due to the fact they have a very strong, dedicated "bball is king" fan base. In a way, iu and UK have that in common.
They don't have great facilities. As for Bloomington, while Lexington is not a great city, Bloomington has even less going for it.
 
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Da_Bull

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iu is a top program only due to the fact they have a very strong, dedicated "bball is king" fan base. In a way, iu and UK have that in common.
They don't have great facilities. As for Bloomington, while Lexington is not a great city, Bloomington has even less going for it.

 
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In terms of college towns go Bloomington is far superior to Lexington. The area around Lexington and Kentucky as a state in general kick IUs *** though


And yea talk to any IU fan and say you're a cat and they will bring up that 2011 shot still as if it's the ultimate trump card. Pretty crazy, as Kentucky has had so much going it's way since then that that game doesn't even register as a blip on the radar. You don't see UK fans beating their chest over beating Sullinger in the 2011 NCAA tournament or beating Michigan in the 2014 elite 8 with the help of a few well timed deep bombs

It's easy to pity IU when they are down. But as soon as they become decent again you'll remember why they suck so much.
 

BlueVelvetFog

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In terms of college towns go Bloomington is far superior to Lexington. The area around Lexington and Kentucky as a state in general kick IUs *** though


And yea talk to any IU fan and say you're a cat and they will bring up that 2011 shot still as if it's the ultimate trump card. Pretty crazy, as Kentucky has had so much going it's way since then that that game doesn't even register as a blip on the radar. You don't see UK fans beating their chest over beating Sullinger in the 2011 NCAA tournament or beating Michigan in the 2014 elite 8 with the help of a few well timed deep bombs

It's easy to pity IU when they are down. But as soon as they become decent again you'll remember why they suck so much.
Bloomington better than Lexington ?????
I...have.....no......words
 

BlueRunner11

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IU will remain a has been until they replace that barn of an arena they play in. Terrible.

And the candy stripes....

That whole program needs a serious makeover. The problem is they're still living in and holding on to the 70s and 80s while everyone else has moved on. They're the epitome of being "behind the times"
 

VandyCrush

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Bloomington better than Lexington ?????
I...have.....no......words


You will not find an independent college town ranking that has lexington above Bloomington. Most don't have them close. I've lived in Lexington and been to Bloomington a time or two.

I hate Indiana the school. I hate Indiana the state. But Bloomington is a better college town than Lexington. If you're older, maybe not. But if you're a student it's no contest
 
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