Indiana can score some points
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Both teams have two of the worst defenses in the league & but OP is a long-time troll so that was inconsequential to him. The RU D is going to be a much tougher unit for Indiana to face.
Illinois looks like those Wisconsin teams that were dominant on defense with a stud running back.
Also their schedule is pretty favorable. The BIG west stinks.
Bielema
Brett has the right mindset for the long haul in the B1G. Hardhats and lunch pails, not magic wands and pixie dust. You're not tricking anybody to win in our league. You have to be prepared AND out work them. As I've said before, Illinois has no more or better talent than RU. They just utilize it better. No gimmicks.
It's Bielema ball but with a twist. Lunney uses tempo more than Bielema ever did. He worked with Bielema at Arkansas and blended some of that with what he picked up from Traylor.
From an article:
Even coaches like to label things. So Barry Lunney Jr. and UTSA head coach Jeff Traylor sat in a room one day and mulled over a succinct name for the offense they birthed by blending Traylor’s spread, mixed-tempo offense with Lunney’s more traditional pro-style offense. They came up with “tempro.”
“I’m not saying that’s the name of our system, but it’s kind of a snappy little way to say we want to play with tempo [with pro-style philosophies],” Lunney said.
During the last two seasons at UTSA, Lunney turned the UTSA offense from the No. 128 FBS scoring offense in 2019 (14.2 points) before he arrived to the No. 11 scoring offense in the country in 2021 (36.9 points per game). Lunney did it with a balanced attack that finished 43rd among FBS teams in both rushing (183.5 yards per game) and passing offense (255.5 yards per game). UTSA ran the ball 55 percent of the time and passed the ball 45 percent of the time.
“Any time you have production in the running game and the throwing game they have and the way it ranks nationally is very, very eye-opening,” Bielema said.
Lunney’s offense will have some similar foundational principles to what Petersen ran because those are core philosophies of Bielema during his 13 years as a power-five head coach. The Illini still want a balanced offense with a physical, tone-setting rushing attack.
“My foundational belief is completely in line with Coach Bielema’s belief about physicality," Lunney said. "It starts with identity of running the football, so a physical brand of football. I think if you watched our football team play the last couple years, we [at UTSA] hung our hat on that part of it. …It might look a little different the way we’re going to do that. It might be different than what’s been done here in the past, maybe a bit different than what we did at Arkansas a little bit. …But what’s not going to waver is the identity we’re trying to establish in running the football.”
But to get balance — something Illinois didn’t have last season with a solid rushing attack but porous passing attack — Lunney will do things a bit differently. The quarterbacks mostly will operate out of the shotgun, Lunney ran a hefty dose of run-pass option at UTSA and he adjusted his offense to work with a dual-threat quarterback in Frank Harris, who rushed for more than 1,000 yards during the last two seasons, though he has recruited pro-style passers at UTSA and will inherit a room of pocket passers at Illinois.
Lunney coached high-octane aerial attacks at San Jose State in the early 2000s and then for his father, Barry Lunney Sr., at Bentonville (Ark.) High School from 2005-2012. He then honed more of his pro-style penchant under Bielema’s two offensive coordinators at Arkansas: Jim Chaney and Dan Enos.
But when he joined Jeff Traylor at UTSA, a Chad Morris protege, Lunney blended his pro-style scheme with Traylor’s spread background to ignite a UTSA offense that catapulted the program from a 4-8 team in 2019 to 12-2 in 2021. During the last two seasons, Sincere McCormick rushed for 2,946 yards and 19 touchdowns to show the power element of Lunney’s offense. But Bielema also was attracted to how a potent passing attack — led by quarterback Frank Harris (3,177 yards, 27 TDs, 6 INTs in 2021) and three different receivers who had at least 750 yards — kept defenses off-kilter.
Bielema thinks Illinois needs to be able to counter in the Big Ten when the Illini (No. 7 in the Big Ten last season in rushing behind All-Big Ten tailback Chase Brown) struggle to run the ball against the Big Ten West’s best defenses, especially Wisconsin and Iowa. Heck, UTSA did it in September to what became a strong Illini defense.
Not sure if you are agreeing or differing with this.
Tempo is all about being prepared, disciplined and well conditioned to keep it up. The RPO creates conflict to exploit. It's not a trick. It's a system that takes hard work , discipline and the right personnel to execute. If that's what you're saying I agree.
I'm not advocating for 4 yds and a cloud of dust (unless of course,like in the Nebraska game first series,the defense has no answer for it) if that's what you got from my post. My problem with the RU offense has been the noticeable chaos every week like they're making it up as they go.
Agree. RU started the Nebraska game looking like a real bowl team. Then we reverted to offensive disarray. Confusion, stupid penalties, needed 2 timeouts on the same down, bad play calling etc. Made you wonder what Gleeson did with game practice. Every time camera focused on Gleeson he had deer in the headlights. I believe Nunzio will be more disciplined and we will see better offensive results.
Better offense means more rest for defense which should make them even better. Let’s hope this game is the one that we refer back to as the start of the turnaround.
Better offense means more rest for defense which should make them even better. Let’s hope this game is the one that we refer back to as the start of the turnaround.
I wasn't sure if you were advocating on a Harbaugh smash mouth type of offense. I don't particular think that's the right path even if it is working for Illinois. But wanted to point out that Illinois has it's own spin on it though. It's not exactly what he was doing the first go around at Wisconsin or at Arkansas. Physicality yes but not exactly the same.
The thing I'll say is it's important to have identity. Harbaugh has it, even though I don't like that offense for RU. Heupel has it and I personally lean more in that direction. I liked what Kevin Wilson was doing at IU. Something along those lines I think can be successful in the B10, provided you have some semblance of a defense. IIRC they did well offensively when he got things going but they had no defense.
Sad thing is, and one of the reasons he fired SG, is that having a new OC resets the rebuild clock a bit.
No doubt we will hear “will take our kids a while to adjust to the new OC” late Saturday afternoon after we score 13 points.
Somewhere in the future it will be: “my son had tonsilitis this week but I promise we will get better”.
No doubt we will hear “will take our kids a while to adjust to the new OC” late Saturday afternoon after we score 13 points.
Somewhere in the future it will be: “my son had tonsilitis this week but I promise we will get better”.
No it doesn't. He didn't use that logic when he turned over literally the entire defensive staff.
It still doesn't reset the rebuild clock dumb dumb. Focus now instead of trying to be a drama queen.
I said ‘a bit’, and by that I mean he will milk this new excuse for at least the rest of the season.
He never committed to a rebuild timeline anyway. That’s just our invention.
What intrigues me is whether or not he’ll bring in someone new in 2023. I think he will, to move the goalposts yet again.
Thing is, it wasn’t Gleeson’s fault and it won’t be Campanile’s fault.
He never committed to a rebuild timeline anyway. That’s just our invention.
What intrigues me is whether or not he’ll bring in someone new in 2023. I think he will, to move the goalposts yet again.
Thing is, it wasn’t Gleeson’s fault and it won’t be Campanile’s fault.
That will sound strange when we win Saturday. We are three point favorites according to Yahoo sports.
This thread is nuts. "Hey, Indiana scored more points than we did against Nebraska." "Schiano will never get it done here, fire him!"
???
Let the season play out.
Keep spinning troll. As I said already you didn't hear any of this when the entire defensive staff was turned over this post off season.
And we know you are not watching the games if you're absolving Gleeson...lmao.
Easy for you to “lmao” but since you don’t know what you are watching, I’ll tell you. the whole concept of Schiano’s offense is to avoid turnovers at all cost leaving it to the D and STs to win the game. So, yes, Gleeson couldn’t call a winning game with one hand tied behind his back. Once it was recognized the Langan dive and Vedral qb draw are Schiano’s staple plays it was game over for offense. Those are Schiano plays. That’s Schiano’s system. That is absolutely not Gleeson’s system.
Typical troll response "Schiano's offense"...lmao.
You haven't got a clue what Gleeson's offense is because those weren't his offenses at Princeton and OSU. They were designed by the head coaches so this was the first time he was tasked with developing an offense.
I guess you're going to pin the piss poor WR route trees on Greg as well? How about the predictable 1st down runs or rotating QBs that only work against OOC teams. I mean there's so much stuff that a good OC could call and still avoid turnovers that Gleeson never did.
No one told him to run Langan after the blocked punt against Nebraska when Brown was chewing them up. That was all Sean being predictable and giving the defense an easy win.
But please go ahead and captivate us with all you know about Schiano's offense because trolls never stop or how much to offer once you get into details.
You proved my point. At prior stops he ran what was expected of him by HCs. Same as here. That’s always the way.
The futile plays you see are Schiano’s core plays. You don’t think Schiano always gave him clear direction on “approved” plays for game week prep ?
Hard to play chess without enough pieces.
The futile plays you see are Schiano’s core plays. You don’t think Schiano always gave him clear direction on “approved” plays for game week prep ?
Hard to play chess without enough pieces.
And again you can't scratch below the surface with your comments, always generalities. This was the first offense he was responsible for designing himself. Yet you claim it's Greg's offense...lol.
Every head coach sets the direction for the program, but a defensive head coach isn't going to hold his OC's hand when it comes to play design & play calling. Not his area of expertise. I even pointed out several issues that are all Gleeson and you can't talk to them.
Let me know when you have something tangible to discuss. Generalities don't cut it.
Oh so lost. Of course it is Greg’s offense. Can you contradict yourself any more obviously? I doubt it. Of course he’s going to give the OC a recipe each week. Run/pass mix, risk, QB rotation, down/distance/field position/score playcalling matrix. Do you think it was Gleeson’s idea to play for the FG after the punt block to go up 10? Of course not. Those 3 safe plays were to make it a two score margin, which Schiano thought would be enough even in the first half.
You really think Gleeson did is own thing, developed the offense, etc. I guess I should feel bad for you.