In the end, Eugene was right about Pikiell

[RutgersNo1]

Asked how his role at Oregon is different from Rutgers, Omoruyi said: “Just my feel for the game, me playing basketball the right way, me knowing the in and outs of the game. With having such a great coach as coach Altman, he’s taught me a lot of things about the game that I didn’t know when I was at Rutgers, and just coming here and competing and putting in the work ethic and working on my shot and my dribble and some other things, I feel like has really elevated my game to the next step that I need to get to.”

Pikiell gave him an opportunity to play in P5 but obviously could not coach him up to a higher level. Hope the other Omoruyi stay with us.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Eugene was bitter. Potentially upset that Pike went out and got Yeboah. I wouldn’t read too much out of that.

 

[RU82]

Eugene improved A LOT during his time at RU.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

I’ll give Pike credit where credit is due here - Eugene developed here. I think there was room for Young, Yeboah and Eugene on the same team.

 

[RutgersNo1]

Eugene improved A LOT during his time at RU.

Eugene started to play basketball at 16.
I’m not discounting Pike on offering the opportunity and working with him to develop his game. But we just can’t discount how much work he put in himself. He also has decent basketball IQ and he reads the game well.
(RHJ is the opposite. He was kinda of “chosen 1” who started to play as a kid. But he is just not a smart player and fails to manage his body)

 

[biazza38]

At the end of the day, there has been a clear divide with this roster. Guys like Mathis, JY, and Eugene can’t be transferring out. Yeah, we were able to replace EO with Yeboah two years ago, but we clearly did not replace JY and Tez. That’s why we are where we are

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

At the end of the day, there has been a clear divide with this roster. Guys like Mathis, JY, and Eugene can’t be transferring out. Yeah, we were able to replace EO with Yeboah two years ago, but we clearly did not replace JY and Tez. That’s why we are where we are

We replaced EO with Myles Johnson.

I am under the assumption our problem is a culture problem that gets removed with new leadership. It isn’t as much who we didn’t get.

I have hinted at it but I think the event the sunk the season wasn’t the guys who declared they were leaving.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Eugene improved a lot here and Pike gets credit for that especially since no one wanted him. Eugene then kicked him in the teeth by not letting him know he was leaving and giving up on a coach who developed him. Whether he left because of Yeboah or because of Pike’s supposed preferential treatment of Geo/Harper etc., we’ll probably never know. However, it was not a good look for all involved. In retrospect, However, Eugene probably made a good choice for himself.

 

[jerzeyguy]

I would say hush -- you might scare recruits.. But then again, we all know recruits ain't coming anyways

 

[mikeyoc]

Eugene improved a lot here and Pike gets credit for that especially since no one wanted him. Eugene then kicked him in the teeth by not letting him know he was leaving and giving up on a coach who developed him. Whether he left because of Yeboah or because of Pike’a supposed preferential treatment of Geo/Harper etc., we’ll probably never know. However, it was not a good look for all involved. In retrospect, However, Eugene probably made a good choice for himself.

Can't be said enough: We wouldn't even know who EO is if RU hadn't recruited him.
NO ONE but us really wanted him. Simple as that

 

[NYSportsFan]

At the end of the day, there has been a clear divide with this roster. Guys like Mathis, JY, and Eugene can’t be transferring out. Yeah, we were able to replace EO with Yeboah two years ago, but we clearly did not replace JY and Tez. That’s why we are where we are

I would argue Hyatt can replace tez but he has to play. He can’t do it from the bench. JY is who we miss the most. Picking up people full court, while sometimes nuts, is the type of energy we are missing defensively. We didn’t replace the big ten leader in steals and the anchor behind him in case he got beat, and those two staples is why we are where we are. On the Eugene front - head scratching to me he left given what the team ended up becoming the next two seasons, but he did seem to be a better all around player the few Oregon games I watched last year, but still weird he wouldn’t credit pike for taking a shot on him and getting him to a certain point.

 

[Joey Bacala]

I would argue Hyatt can replace tez but he has to play. He can’t do it from the bench. JY is who we miss the most. Picking up people full court, while sometimes nuts, is the type of energy we are missing defensively. We didn’t replace the big ten leader in steals and the anchor behind him in case he got beat, and those two staples is why we are where we are. On the Eugene front - head scratching to me he left given what the team ended up becoming the next two seasons, but he did seem to be a better all around player the few Oregon games I watched last year, but still weird he wouldn’t credit pike for taking a shot on him and getting him to a certain point.

The Myles/JY/Tez combination was a fast break machine for us and got us tons of transition points. Myles had the great skill (one of the best I've seen) to grab a defensive rebound and immediately throw an outlet pass to guys who took off like JY and Tez. Instant fast break. This year's team doesn't run. Period. The offense is painfully slow and most of the time it's a dribble to nowhere. Ball movement is bad and shooting is worse so just play a zone against us and we will struggle.

 

[zappaa]

I’ll give Pike credit where credit is due here - Eugene developed here. I think there was room for Young, Yeboah and Eugene on the same team.

Hell yes there was

 

[higgins3]

Several mentioned Cliff leaving.

For where? Cliff has a lot of work to do to be effective at this level. I don't see it.

For whatever reason, RHJ marketed this was his last year. I don't see him getting to a g league team either at this point.

I hope they turn it around.

 

[MikeR0102]

You guys are toxic.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I think in todays game we have to assume no one is a given coming back.

 

[RUsojo]

Yeah guy is on the Mavericks no way he is if he stayed at RU. Expanded offensive role at Oregon

 

[RUsojo]

I would argue Hyatt can replace tez but he has to play. He can’t do it from the bench. JY is who we miss the most. Picking up people full court, while sometimes nuts, is the type of energy we are missing defensively. We didn’t replace the big ten leader in steals and the anchor behind him in case he got beat, and those two staples is why we are where we are. On the Eugene front - head scratching to me he left given what the team ended up becoming the next two seasons, but he did seem to be a better all around player the few Oregon games I watched last year, but still weird he wouldn’t credit pike for taking a shot on him and getting him to a certain point.

Why do people keep arguing a 3/4 man will replace a 2?

 

[NYSportsFan]

Why do people keep arguing a 3/4 man will replace a 2?

Because today’s basketball is position-less my friend. You think Montez was a traditional 2 guard?? No way u think that. Tell me what position Paul and Caleb play? Cause neither are traditional 1 or 2.

 

[RUsojo]

Because today’s basketball is position-less my friend. You think Montez was a traditional 2 guard?? No way u think that. Tell me what position Paul and Caleb play? Cause neither are traditional 1 or 2.

thats not what was meant, we're talking defense

 

[RUsojo]

Because today’s basketball is position-less my friend. You think Montez was a traditional 2 guard?? No way u think that. Tell me what position Paul and Caleb play? Cause neither are traditional 1 or 2.

both of thses guys play out of position on one end of the floor cant even get into them pike messed it up so much

 

[RU82]

Eugene started to play basketball at 16.
I’m not discounting Pike on offering the opportunity and working with him to develop his game. But we just can’t discount how much work he put in himself. He also has decent basketball IQ and he reads the game well.
(RHJ is the opposite. He was kinda of “chosen 1” who started to play as a kid. But he is just not a smart player and fails to manage his body)

The player is always 90% responsible for their own improvement.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

Hell yes there was

But I say that because there were folks who said Eugene hindered the development of others

 

[NYSportsFan]

thats not what was meant, we're talking defense

Oh ok, my bad, I thought we were talking offensively.

 

[hinson32]

Asked how his role at Oregon is different from Rutgers, Omoruyi said: “Just my feel for the game, me playing basketball the right way, me knowing the in and outs of the game. With having such a great coach as coach Altman, he’s taught me a lot of things about the game that I didn’t know when I was at Rutgers, and just coming here and competing and putting in the work ethic and working on my shot and my dribble and some other things, I feel like has really elevated my game to the next step that I need to get to.”

Pikiell gave him an opportunity to play in P5 but obviously could not coach him up to a higher level. Hope the other Omoruyi stay with us.

Except that he improved more at RU than he did at Oregon.

 

[S_Janowski]

Asked how his role at Oregon is different from Rutgers, Omoruyi said: “Just my feel for the game, me playing basketball the right way, me knowing the in and outs of the game. With having such a great coach as coach Altman, he’s taught me a lot of things about the game that I didn’t know when I was at Rutgers, and just coming here and competing and putting in the work ethic and working on my shot and my dribble and some other things, I feel like has really elevated my game to the next step that I need to get to.”

Pikiell gave him an opportunity to play in P5 but obviously could not coach him up to a higher level. Hope the other Omoruyi stay with us.

You would have a great point if Eugene didn’t improve here…except the complete opposite occurred, so another silly thread.

Eugene was just all about himself and didn’t like that Pikiell brought in someone to improve the roster.

 

[Rutgers1010]

I’ll give Pike credit where credit is due here - Eugene developed here. I think there was room for Young, Yeboah and Eugene on the same team.

Pike had him in the post….. my god what were you watching? He elevated his game at Oregon…. Everyone has to stop giving off this illusion that pike develops players……..

 

[Rutgers1010]

Eugene was bitter. Potentially upset that Pike went out and got Yeboah. I wouldn’t read too much out of that.

But where’s yeboah? And where’s Eugene? Maybe he knew that him going to get yeboah from his old school (sb) meant here comes more favoritism…. He didn’t care about yeboah coming

 

[IL Lusciato]

Its time to admit that the guys who left, and some of the posters who hinted that something was wrong, were on to something, and the incessant making excuses for Pike may be misplaced.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

2 things can be true

1) pike is the man who developed eugene
2) pike didnt know how to best utilize the skills he developed

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

It’s time to admit coaching 18-22 year olds with egos and many people in their ear is extremely difficult

 

[RUsojo]

It’s time to admit coaching 18-22 year olds with egos and many people in their ear is extremely difficult

Honestly think it’s time to admit the biggest job of a coach is 1) recruiting 2) managing egos of players 3) Xs and Os with the later not being very close to the former

 

[Yeah Baby]

Eugene was bitter. Potentially upset that Pike went out and got Yeboah. I wouldn’t read too much out of that.

This. I’m liked Eugene a lot but we didn’t win with him and made it to the dance two years in a row without him. Wish he stayed but he didn’t. No way we can say he was right or wrong. Nothing wrong about giving credit to his new coach. My gut is one guy is Offenaive minded and we know Pike is defensive minded. He made the right choice for him. Win win.

 

[RUsojo]

Eugene leaving was another instance of pike not being able to manage egos and team dynamics.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

2 things can be true

1) pike is the man who developed eugene
2) pike didnt know how to best utilize the skills he developed

Or:
1. Pike took him from a no name marginal recruit to an elite defender and good post player
2. Pike couldn’t take him offensively to where he
could be

 

[Knights 1212]

No one has said that Eugene sat out a year at Oregon to play one year. He was 2 years older at Oregon than when he left RU. It was awful the way he left after we scheduled a game in Toronto for him to play near his home and immediately he bailed on RU. RU offered him when almost no one else did. He was only thinking of himself. JY did the same thing after he played over 30 mpg for RU and right after we lost to Houston he announced within minutes that he was leaving RU. I see this as players only thinking of themselves and not giving any allegiance to RU.

 

[RutgersNo1]

Except that he improved more at RU than he did at Oregon.

You would have a great point if Eugene didn’t improve here…except the complete opposite occurred, so another silly thread.

Eugene was just all about himself and didn’t like that Pikiell brought in someone to improve the roster.

I have answered on #5.
Eugene didn't play basketball until 16. With his learning ability and basketball IQ, he would have developed his game at 20-ish on his own anyway. You Pike fans just keep discounting how much work a player put in himself. If Pike is that good at developing projects, why is RHJ regressing?

 

[SirScarlet]

Yeah guy is on the Mavericks no way he is if he stayed at RU. Expanded offensive role at Oregon

And no way he is in NBA if he didn't come here first and get developed

Maybe both things can be true?

 

[RutgersNo1]

And no way he is in NBA if he didn't come here first and get developed

Maybe both things can be true?

Can't be said enough: We wouldn't even know who EO is if RU hadn't recruited him.
NO ONE but us really wanted him. Simple as that

No one has said that Eugene sat out a year at Oregon to play one year. He was 2 years older at Oregon than when he left RU. It was awful the way he left after we scheduled a game in Toronto for him to play near his home and immediately he bailed on RU. RU offered him when almost no one else did. He was only thinking of himself. JY did the same thing after he played over 30 mpg for RU and right after we lost to Houston he announced within minutes that he was leaving RU. I see this as players only thinking of themselves and not giving any allegiance to RU.

First of all, I hate how he left us.
Second, there are a bunch of unknown players out of high school play well in smaller schools for a year or two and then become solid players in P5.
Third, he chose us over Loyola-Chicago. Yes, Loyola-Chicago.

You Pike fans keep ignoring how good a learner he is and acting like he was not going to continue his basketball journey without Pike.

 

[SirScarlet]

First of all, I hate how he left us.
Second, there are a bunch of unknown players out of high school play well in smaller schools for a year or two and then become solid players in P5.
Third, he chose us over Loyola-Chicago. Yes, Loyola-Chicago.

You Pike fans keep ignoring how good a learner he is and acting like he was not going to continue his basketball journey without Pike.

You're right...its us who are missing the obvious here...not you.

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