In a couple years Cohen will be

[tired]

0-2 hiring baseball coaches. The big boys may get restless.

 

[Mayor of Little London]

Wrong^^^^^

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Cautiously Optimistic, but I don't think we are gonna win the Press Conference with this hire.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

That crap is overrated

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[GhostOfJackie]

We will win the press conference by hosting 3-4 regionals in a row. Might as well get 100% behind Lemonis because pretty soon you will be in the minority.
All the people I know who are upset that Henderson was not hired, know nothing about baseball. That's how I know we made a good hire.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

I did not mean to insinuate that winning the press conference was important, just stating a fact that we will not win it. IB deserves the benefit of the doubt on this hire.

 

[patdog]

That’s not winning the press conference. If we host 3-4 regionals in a row, that’s making a good hire. Two very different things. This won’t look great in the press conference. I couldn’t care less if we win or lose the pres conference though.

 

[ArcherSPS]

How the 17 is he 0-2? His first coach took us to Supers and just couldn’t keep his hog in his pants. How is that Cohen’s fault? We have the dumbest fans in America. I’ve come to that conclusion.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

How the 17 is he 0-2? His first coach took us to Supers and just couldn’t keep his hog in his pants. How is that Cohen’s fault? We have the dumbest fans in America. I’ve come to that conclusion.

So you don't think Cohen bears any responsibility for what happened with Cannizaro? Really? I'll bet I know someone who disagrees with you and he just hired the next baseball coach.

 

[thf24]

So anyone we hired who's not a top 3 nationwide coach was going to fail? Jesus Christ, we are spoiled rotten as a baseball fanbase, and honestly without much recent reason for it. If this is the sentiment of the majority of our fanbase, then we deserved a lot worse than this hire. This is OM or Tennessee-level entitlement behavior.

 

[o_Dawg007]

Winning the press conference is straight up Ole Miss ish.

 

[CoolDawg]

How the 17 is he 0-2? His first coach took us to Supers and just couldn’t keep his hog in his pants. How is that Cohen’s fault? We have the dumbest fans in America. I’ve come to that conclusion.

So let me get this straight. If a coach that Cohen hires is successful, the credit goes to Cohen. If a coach that Cohen hires ends up being immature, unprepared for the job, and likes to chase skirts, none of the blame should be on Cohen.

 

[WutheringDawg]

So you don't think Cohen bears any responsibility for what happened with Cannizaro? Really? I'll bet I know someone who disagrees with you and he just hired the next baseball coach.

I'm sure Cohen blames himself and it is a lesson learned, but I don't think that there is really any correlation between what Cann did and Cohen's AD abilities writ large.

 

[HueFreeze]

i don't. Cannizaro was hired to coach baseball. he led them to a super regional ...a sweet 16 if you there Stansbury
He also took this campus by storm ...he was winning over this town campus and fanbase
He got wreckless and Cohen handled it, but to say Cohen missed as a baseball mind because the dude was running tail is just wrong

He is not 0fer on Cann, Cann just didn't respect the job/opportunity he was given. Cohen didn't miss on ability or performance

 

[ArcherSPS]

What the hell is he responsible for then? What’s he supposed to do? Put a chastity belt on Andy?

 

[johnson86-1]

So let me get this straight. If a coach that Cohen hires is successful, the credit goes to Cohen. If a coach that Cohen hires ends up being immature, unprepared for the job, and likes to chase skirts, none of the blame should be on Cohen.

If he hadn't been making a hire right before the season, then yes, he would get blamed. Different set of expectations based on the situation. Cohen had to either (a) roll with an interim coach for a year or (b) roll the dice on an up and comer. He went with option b and seems to have done a great job identifying potential but missed on the character/maturity part. Understandable.

 

[johnson86-1]

0-2 hiring baseball coaches. The big boys may get restless.

Maybe, but the reality is the performance of the baseball team is going to be a minor influence on Cohen's job security compared to football team's.

 

[BiscuitEater]

0-2 hiring baseball coaches.

So .. can I get your tickets?

 

[ArcherSPS]

Let me tell you how you could pin that on Cohen. He finds out about the infidelity and allows it to continue while it’s a major distraction to the team. There’s only one man to blame for Andy and it’s Andy.

 

[ArcherSPS]

So let me get this straight. If a coach that Cohen hires is successful, the credit goes to Cohen. If a coach that Cohen hires ends up being immature, unprepared for the job, and likes to chase skirts, none of the blame should be on Cohen.

Andy came in as a respected scout in the mlb and assistant at LSU. Dude came in with a wife and two young children. Let’s not act like Cohen or anybody else could see that coming. Let us not forget the dude was after one chick and one chick only. This wasn’t some long running ordeal prior that everyone knew about.

 

[Dr. Funke.sixpack]

I don’t think Cohen is to blame for the hire. In hindsight it’s painfully obvious the team wasn’t ready to start the season. If they knew what was going, I don’t understand how you let it get to the where a team that ended up being that good was so bad to start. That’s where the blame should be.

If I hire someone at my office, I feel responsible if they don’t work out. However, some things you can’t presict and people are ultimately responsible for their own actions.

 

[Go Budaw]

Let me tell you how you could pin that on Cohen. He finds out about the infidelity and allows it to continue while it’s a major distraction to the team. There’s only one man to blame for Andy and it’s Andy.

The infidelity was known about in September of last year. Andy wasn’t fired until February. Just sayin’

 

[ArcherSPS]

And you know this how? Were you their cameraman or Andy’s fluffer?

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

So I can safely assume you think Bjork bore no responsibility in the Hugh Freeze shitstorm.

 

[Philly Dawg]

So what? The first 0 in that 0-2 would have gotten us to a super regional and CWS.

 

[Miketice]

And you know this how? Were you their cameraman or Andy’s fluffer?

Cann needs no fluffer.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Just hope this doesn't start "the curse of the Hendino" **

 

[tired]

So .. can I get your tickets?

Sure, when I don't go.

 

[Dr. Funke.sixpack]

I’m not sure that is a Bananas to Bananas comparison.

 

[Duke Humphrey]

Whaaaaaaat? That is the most ridiculous comparison one could make.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

The last 2 coaches have taken us

To the supers and then the final 4. If that is going 0-2, you are hard to please.

 

[Go Budaw]

And you know this how? Were you their cameraman or Andy’s fluffer?

The entire town of Starkville knows about this. People talk....I don’t know what else to tell you.

 

[Go Budaw]

If he hadn't been making a hire right before the season, then yes, he would get blamed. Different set of expectations based on the situation. Cohen had to either (a) roll with an interim coach for a year or (b) roll the dice on an up and comer. He went with option b and seems to have done a great job identifying potential but missed on the character/maturity part. Understandable.

This is the correct answer. We gambled big on a dude with a real short track record. We had to gamble big one way or another based on the timing of the hire. This one backfired, but I don’t blame Cohen because we didn’t have any obvious good options. It turned out OK all things considered.

 

[AssEndDawg]

He got wreckless and Cohen handled it, but to say Cohen missed as a baseball mind because the dude was running tail is just wrong

I keep seeing this narrative which is really interesting because it is simply wrong. Cann wasn't being a great coach and he just got caught with his zipper down and had to go, he was being an absolutely horrible coach and Cohen was able to use the affair as a reason to get him out without a fight. The leaders on our baseball team have talked about this, Cann was responsible for the offensive strategy and there was NO offensive strategy. He was not paying attention in practice, he tried to put a pitcher in the game that wasn't even warmed up because he wasn't paying attention. Let's be really real about this, he wasn't knocking boots with a student, this was a AD staffer who had already left to go to Florida. I promise you that if Cann was a baseball coaching god he would have survived that affair. The affair cost him his job because he wasn't doing his job.

Hey, I love the guy, but anyone acting like Cann wasn't a swing and a miss by Cohen is being willfully ignorant of the facts.

 

[johnson86-1]

The infidelity was known about in September of last year. Andy wasn’t fired until February. Just sayin’

Infidelity is usually not a fireable offense. If it came to light in September, he was admonished/warned/written up, whatever, and he at least acted a little more discretely for a few months, that timeline seems about right and not on Cohen.

 

[paindonthurt_]

No the entire town of Starkville didnt know abt this last September.

Cannizaro was in the damn country club pool on the reg with his son. Things seems peachy as could be.

I know guys who hung out with him who had no clue it was going on.

 

[Go Budaw]

I keep seeing this narrative which is really interesting because it is simply wrong. Cann wasn't being a great coach and he just got caught with his zipper down and had to go, he was being an absolutely horrible coach and Cohen was able to use the affair as a reason to get him out without a fight. The leaders on our baseball team have talked about this, Cann was responsible for the offensive strategy and there was NO offensive strategy. He was not paying attention in practice, he tried to put a pitcher in the game that wasn't even warmed up because he wasn't paying attention. Let's be really real about this, he wasn't knocking boots with a student, this was a AD staffer who had already left to go to Florida. I promise you that if Cann was a baseball coaching god he would have survived that affair. The affair cost him his job because he wasn't doing his job.

Hey, I love the guy, but anyone acting like Cann wasn't a swing and a miss by Cohen is being willfully ignorant of the facts.

^^^^This guy knows exactly whats up

 

[RocketDawg]

Infidelity is usually not a fireable offense. If it came to light in September, he was admonished/warned/written up, whatever, and he at least acted a little more discretely for a few months, that timeline seems about right and not on Cohen.

If it was a fireable offense, the unemployment rate would increase considerably.

 

[BigBully]

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

 

[aerodawg.sixpack]

I keep seeing this narrative which is really interesting because it is simply wrong. Cann wasn't being a great coach and he just got caught with his zipper down and had to go, he was being an absolutely horrible coach and Cohen was able to use the affair as a reason to get him out without a fight. The leaders on our baseball team have talked about this, Cann was responsible for the offensive strategy and there was NO offensive strategy. He was not paying attention in practice, he tried to put a pitcher in the game that wasn't even warmed up because he wasn't paying attention. Let's be really real about this, he wasn't knocking boots with a student, this was a AD staffer who had already left to go to Florida. I promise you that if Cann was a baseball coaching god he would have survived that affair. The affair cost him his job because he wasn't doing his job.

Hey, I love the guy, but anyone acting like Cann wasn't a swing and a miss by Cohen is being willfully ignorant of the facts.

Interesting because this situation impresses me more than the other scenario with regards to Cohen.

Anyone who has worked in management can make a a hire that doesn’t work out. Cannizzaro was a risk from the experience standpoint but he clearly had an impressive presence that probably let Cohen pull the trigger.

The important thing was that Cohen took action against it when it became apparent and affected performance. I would much rather have an accountable manager (AD) than someone who can’t accept the truth of the situation and let’s it burn the program into the ground.

Can you imagine any other program going through a similar situation and still being in as good of shape as MSU Baseball is right now?