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[czxqa]

In four years of investigations and prosecutions, while the state was desperate to find another witness to corroborate the abuse, McQuery never once mentioned this alleged conversation. We know this to be true because multiple investigators, including Louis Freeh, who all turned over every stone, never once contacted either Bradley or Schiano.
Four years later, in 2015, in his own lawsuit, McQuery comes up with this story. We'll never know for certain, but sounds to me like McQuery trying to justify his own decade long silence in exchange for a job.

 

[RUforlife]

And another thing: there have probably been over a hundred assistant coaches, graduate assistants, support staff, etc. who cycled through that swamp during Sandusky's predative years: what about all of them? Why haven't they been named and shamed?

The cult lives!! McQueary named Schiano in a civil suit as knowing. He must be a money hungry liar. No matter how you spin it guys, McQueary named Schiano as someone who knew, you just can't get around it. And yes, it was hearsay, but hearsay can be true.

 

[Jtung230]

GS is a big boy and very rich. He can fight his own fights. It's time for everyone to jump on the MBB wagon.

 

[KT8813]

You really have no clue what You re talking about.

Really enlighten me Oh wise one.

 

[Kbee3]

Pretty sure not even PSU fans defended Sandusky. But go ahead with your assumptions.

There were some that did.

 

[WhiteBus]

The cult lives!! McQueary named Schiano in a civil suit as knowing. He must be a money hungry liar. No matter how you spin it guys, McQueary named Schiano as someone who knew, you just can't get around it. And yes, it was hearsay, but hearsay can be true.

And you keep stating hearsay as fact. You are worse then the Penn State fans who say Joe didn't know. You keep saying Schiano knew. Just as creepy, your lack of facts and hatred for Schiano.

 

[WhiteBus]

madhat..you're getting mixed up.....the question was...do you think Pitino knew of the call-girl parties ? sure, they happened just like the JS stuff happened..

but do you think Pitino knew what was going on ? Remember, there's no evidence that he did.

Bus....McQueary was on the team while Schiano was a coach there. Of course they knew each other. C'mon now.

No they didn't. I never personally knew coaches outside the position coach and the coordinator. The HC was someone who talked to you but you certainly weren't friend' and the only time you talked to them was to explain why you fucted up. There is no interaction from a DB coach and the QB. Don't be stupid.
And you keep saying that the coaching ranks are such a close knit group. If that is so true why hasn't any other coach that worked at PSU come forward and back up MM story about GS???

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

The cult lives!! McQueary named Schiano in a civil suit as knowing. He must be a money hungry liar. No matter how you spin it guys, McQueary named Schiano as someone who knew, you just can't get around it. And yes, it was hearsay, but hearsay can be true.

I heard you enjoy bestiality with Canadian geese with your pencil thin-tool. Hearsay can be true.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

You provide an article that corroborates hearsay, which was only stated in a single civil case and not ONCE in 5+ years of criminal proceedings.

That almost made it sound like he COULD provide corroboration.. what he can provide is Tom Bradley saying it never happened.

 

[Mikemarc]

And another thing: there have probably been over a hundred assistant coaches, graduate assistants, support staff, etc. who cycled through that swamp during Sandusky's predative years: what about all of them? Why haven't they been named and shamed?

The cult lives!! McQueary named Schiano in a civil suit as knowing. He must be a money hungry liar. No matter how you spin it guys, McQueary named Schiano as someone who knew, you just can't get around it. And yes, it was hearsay, but hearsay can be true.

It certainly can be true. But zero evidence what he said was true.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

I think GS needs to cover this with his players to clear the air.. if he hasn't already.

1) Say it never happened.. he never saw anything and he wishes he did because so many more victims would have been saved.

2) Explain the details of McQueary's allegations:

A) McQueary never mentioned "Schiano" from the time he saw the rape in the shower, through all investigations by police and others... until McQueary was suing Penn State for millions of dollars.

B) McQueary made up a story about another coach who saw something years before he did.. one would assume to make is legal position stronger. He chose my name and said he heard it from Tom Bradley.

C) Tom Bradley is the supposed source of this knowledge that I saw something and covered it up.. and Tom Bradley says it never happened. And according to all the known information about the case, there was a single such event in that shower during my entire time with Penn State. For that story to begin to be true, I would have had to witness that event.

D) And Mike McQueary said that on the night he witnessed it, he was not supposed to be anywhere near the lockerroom. So it was unlikely that anyone would witness any of Sandusky's crimes because he hid them well.

E) So, I (GS) supposedly went from observing an attack and covering it up.. to becoming a young assistant coach with the Chicago Bears.. I did not stay at Penn State and "cash in" on my participation in a cover-up. But Mike McQueary did.

F) In 2002 McQueary witnessed that heinous crime as an unpaid graduate assistant with Joe Paterno telling him that he did not have a paid position for him... to having a paid position.. for 11 years with Penn State.

Now I do have serious problems with what Mike McQueary has said about me. But he witnessed something that should never happen. He tried to do the right thing.. and then fell silent until police came looking to him 10 years later... and he then did the right thing. But in trying to get restitution for how witnessing this act affected his coaching career he slandered my name and made his case and was awarded over $7M dollars.

So that's the whole story. My name was used to win a lawsuit because Mike McQueary needed to say that other people knew what was going on.

Now lets get back to beating Wisconsin and winning the Big Ten.

 

[WhiteBus]

I heard you enjoy bestiality with Canadian geese with your pencil thin-tool. Hearsay can be true.

And as a pedophile himself, as I heard from MM indirectly, it is why he is "touchy" on this subject.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

And as a pedophile himself, as I heard from MM indirectly, it is why he is "touchy" on this subject.

yessss.. I heard that also.. and hearsay CAN be true, ya know.

 

[Scarlet16e2]

I posted this in a thread on the RT, but I felt it needed to be said here as well.

Schiano was at Penn State from 1990-1995.
Everyone wants to assume that there were whispers and rumors about Sandusky at that time, but that's just not how these things go. Sandusky was a highly respected coach at the time. He was still getting his Second Mile thing going ,working with kids, and was adored by all who knew him as a saint (of course we now know what his motivation was). There was no reason for Schiano to know or even suspect anything.

You need to understand that child molestation happens much more than people recognize, and nearly all of the time the other people around it have no idea it's happening. Most of us, unknowingly, know someone who has been abused at some point in their life (and most of those people simply don't talk about it). Saying things like "they must have known" is fooling yourself about the reality of how child molesters operate.

What McQueary saw happened a decade later.
After that, when officials, including Paterno, were informed. Is where the cover up began.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

What McQueary saw happened a decade later.
After that, when officials, including Paterno, were informed. Is where the cover up began.

I have posted in many threads about how I do not think it is even possible that Schiano would have seen anything.. but the above needs correction.. McQueary first said he saw the shower thing in march of 2002.. but the email trails revealed it was February of 2001.

Now McQueary was remembering this to law enforcement was after a decade of cashing PSU checks as a paid assistant coach.. something he probably earned by allowing joePA to "handle" this.

The event McQueary saw was 6 years after Schiano left PSU. McQueary relayed the story to a grand jury in 2010.. 15 years after Schiano left.

So McQueary's memory was a year off.. and the lone victim who said there was a shower incident alleged met Sandusky in 1994 or 1995 (timelines disagree here) and has a hazy memory of one event of abuse in the shower.. but we have no idea what year that was.. if it was in 1994 or 1995 then GS might have been there.. in 1996 GS was with the Chicago Bears. But this could have been later.. Sandusky would abuse these kids for years.. mostly in his car or in his home.

McQueary does not "remember" this Bradley/Schiano story until he is being deposed in a lawsuit he brought against Penn State in 2016.. 21 years after Schiano left PSU. At no time before this did Mike McQueary mention this story that Tome Bradley told him to anyone... not the grand Jury, not any investigator.

 

[Scarlet16e2]

I have posted in many threads about how I do not think it is even possible that Schiano would have seen anything.. but the above needs correction.. McQueary first said he saw the shower thing in march of 2002.. but the email trails revealed it was February of 2001.

Now McQueary was remembering this to law enforcement was after a decade of cashing PSU checks as a paid assistant coach.. something he probably earned by allowing joePA to "handle" this.

The event McQueary saw was 6 years after Schiano left PSU. McQueary relayed the story to a grand jury in 2010.. 15 years after Schiano left.

So McQueary's memory was a year off.. and the lone victim who said there was a shower incident alleged met Sandusky in 1994 or 1995 (timelines disagree here) and has a hazy memory of one event of abuse in the shower.. but we have no idea what year that was.. if it was in 1994 or 1995 then GS might have been there.. in 1996 GS was with the Chicago Bears. But this could have been later.. Sandusky would abuse these kids for years.. mostly in his car or in his home.

McQueary does not "remember" this Bradley/Schiano story until he is being deposed in a lawsuit he brought against Penn State in 2016.. 21 years after Schiano left PSU. At no time before this did Mike McQueary mention this story that Tome Bradley told him to anyone... not the grand Jury, not any investigator.

Yes. Thanks for the correction.

 

[DJ Spanky]

Whoops, time to take out the trash. Buh-bye!

I heard you enjoy bestiality with Canadian geese with your pencil thin-tool. Hearsay can be true.

Actually I've heard that the geese are not satisfied. Perhaps he needs to resort to sparrows.