IMO here's what happened this year

weatherbird

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I had noticed, as many have done, that we didn't seem to improve, and in fact actually got a little worse as the season went on. As I reflected back, I noticed a difference in the team around the first of the year. I wasn't sure what the difference was, but it was pretty obvious that the team we all witnessed murder teams in the non-conference schedule, was all of the sudden struggling a little bit against the lesser quality SEC teams, and then even against the NCAA tournament teams that we faced. I watched a few games from both portions of the season, and came up with 3 things that I think lead to ending that none of us wanted.

First, the only physical reason of the 3, Alex's injury. While I think this may have contributed to the other 2 things I noticed, it was a big blow to the team. The team continued to win, so a lot of people tended to believe that it didn't make that much of a difference, and some of the media even stated that we would be better because of it. That was false. Alex was the leading scorer for us in the bahamas, and was the one guy who could actually lock down the bigger and more physical wing players that kentucky faced. He was a match-up nightmare in his own right, mostly because of athletic ability, as it was hard to keep him off the glass, and even harder to keep him from making big defensive plays, as he did in the tournament run last year.

The second thing, was we stopped platooning. Yes, we went back to it from time to time, and looked great doing it, but it largely went away as the season wore on. Now, even without Alex, we still platooned for a bit, but as the season wore on, we moved to a more normal substitution pattern, and often cut the rotation down to really just 7-8 guys. I believe this is why the team which started off on a course to be by far the best defensive team in history saw their defense start looking not as good. The defensive intensity that they played with in the first part of the year cannot be sustained for more than 4-5 minutes at a time. With the platoon system, that wasn't a problem, as the players were getting breathers after 4-5 minutes. They were relentless on the defensive side of the ball, and often that lead to wearing teams out, even teams that tried to play slow down basketball.

And the last thing that I noticed was that this team quit taking the first shot available, and started looking to find the best shot available. In the first half of the season, they were taking the first open look they found, which was usually just 2-3 passes into the offense. As the season wore on, they quit pressing the issue on the offensive side, by not taking those shots, and instead started searching for the best shot available. That often resulted in slowing the pace, and then trying to cram the ball inside. This wasn't the philosophy early in the year. The perimeter players took more shots early, and they crashed the offensive glass. That is easier to do on perimeter shots, but much harder to get offensive rebounds when the shot is coming from around the block areas, as most players are already bunched up, and easily blocked out. The offense was more spread out early on, and because of that, other teams were having to try to block out our athletes that were diving toward the rim. It is why teams like ND and Wisc get a lot of offensive rebounds. They spread you out, then let athletes run to the rim on shots, where they become hard to block out.

In essence, this team tried to become Cal's previous teams, execution style team. That was not what made them unbeatable early on, shear depth and talent did, but they negated that as the season wore on. Now I am not sure whether this change was because of Cal, the players or some other reason, but I believe these are the changes that took this team from possibly the greatest of all-time, to just a really good to great team in a good year of college basketball.
 

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I agree on all points.

I've said for 2 or 3 years now that UK should be a running, fast-break team. As soon as we get into a half-court game, we have no offense (despite all the "plays" that some posters delusionally think we run), and we start to equalize the talent gap we hold.

We should have stayed with the platoon and focused on incredible defensive intensity on one end and pushing the tempo on the other. It would have worn everyone down.
 

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There's also the issue of Notre Dame and Wisconsin being the best two teams we played all year by a country mile ...

I agree with some of OP's points, but we also struggled in December against Buffalo and one of the worst teams in the Ivy League.
 

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In my opinion, this team lost its swag and stopped having as much fun. The pressure or thought of winning every game became so overwhelming that the player lost site of being kids and just having fun. When we were destroying teams, the Cats looked untouchable. Their confidence was through the roof. They had the ultimate "swag". They lost that edge and stopped having so much fun by putting the pressure of winning every game on their shoulders and I think that eventually nipped us.

I miss the shotgun gesture from Booker. I miss the string music from Lee. I miss the stare downs from big Willie. They lost it mentally. It just goes to show how good we really were to make it as far as we did not playing nearly as good as we were capable of playing.
 

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Originally posted by Kampus Korner:
Shaking my head at such a lengthy criticism about a team and its coach who won 38 straight games. We lost one game. sheesh!
The post wasn't meant to be a criticism, and I apologize if you took it that way. The post was about the differences that I saw between early in the year, and towards the end of the year. I'm not saying the changes were right or wrong, and perhaps the changes were needed to keep us unbeaten. Either way, there are two things that are undeniable, this team was record setting, and they weren't near as dominate at the end of the year as they were at the beginning of the year.
 

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Originally posted by killaCk:
In my opinion, this team lost its swag and stopped having as much fun. The pressure or thought of winning every game became so overwhelming that the player lost site of being kids and just having fun. When we were destroying teams, the Cats looked untouchable. Their confidence was through the roof. They had the ultimate "swag". They lost that edge and stopped having so much fun by putting the pressure of winning every game on their shoulders and I think that eventually nipped us.

I miss the shotgun gesture from Booker. I miss the string music from Lee. I miss the stare downs from big Willie. They lost it mentally. It just goes to show how good we really were to make it as far as we did not playing nearly as good as we were capable of playing.
And maybe this is it. Maybe the pressure got to them, and they quit having fun, and thus they started to become more conservative in order to try to keep the streak alive.
 

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Originally posted by Kampus Korner:
Shaking my head at such a lengthy criticism about a team and its coach who won 38 straight games. We lost one game. sheesh!
I seen this coming....who couldn't.

Cal was a F'n miracle maker, a genius...somewhere close to Superman and Einstein rolled into one....if he wins 40 and a NC

Lose 1 and no NC and he F'd up way back in Jan

Fans are going through the stages of grief...this thread would be the bargaining stage.
 

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Originally posted by barryn2000:
Originally posted by Kampus Korner:
Shaking my head at such a lengthy criticism about a team and its coach who won 38 straight games. We lost one game. sheesh!
I seen this coming....who couldn't.

Cal was a F'n miracle maker, a genius...somewhere close to Superman and Einstein rolled into one....if he wins 40 and a NC

Lose 1 and no NC and he F'd up way back in Jan

Fans are going through the stages of grief...this thread would be the bargaining stage.
It is what fans do. Do we appreciate the season, yes. Ultimate high to an ultimate low. It sucks. Fact is, we weren't playing our best ball. We came up with stops just like the ND game, we just didn't score. We had our chances and didn't capitalize.
 

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JasonS. posted on 4/7/2015...
There's also the issue of Notre Dame and Wisconsin being the best two teams we played all year by a country mile ...

I got labeled a hater and even a troll fan of another team in another thread by numerous 'real fans' for pointing out there were things we should've done differently (that ones out scouting via film more) and that our schedule was too soft to expose our weaknesses.

Some great points here by the OP--and those without blue-tinted glasses can SURELY see there were several things that have us a false-sense of how truly 'dominant' we were. I Started to say I'm amazed at some of our fans unwillingness to back off the narrative that because we didn't lose a game for so long that there were no issues to resolve. But then I remembered that's the nature of being a 'fan' & not truly being close to a team enough to be constructively critical like a coach.
 

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Originally posted by barryn2000:
Originally posted by Kampus Korner:
Shaking my head at such a lengthy criticism about a team and its coach who won 38 straight games. We lost one game. sheesh!
I seen this coming....who couldn't.

Cal was a F'n miracle maker, a genius...somewhere close to Superman and Einstein rolled into one....if he wins 40 and a NC

Lose 1 and no NC and he F'd up way back in Jan

Fans are going through the stages of grief...this thread would be the bargaining stage.
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There are always issues to resolve, always weaknesses, and always potential match up problems. This team was by objective statistical measures the most dominant defensive team since detailed statistics were tracked, and was every bit deserving of the hype. The best team doesn't always win and perfect but flawed is still flawed. 97 Kentucky was a made freethrow from being champs, yet lost to the same USC team multiple times simply because the matchup against them was difficult, not because they were the inferior team or exposed or whatever else.

If you played competitive sports, it should be pretty clear to you how these things happen and will always happen at this level and in a one game tournament. Notre Dame beat Duke 2 out of 3 times this season, and probably would've beaten them a third time if they faced in the final, even though they weren't actually as good a team overall and probably would've been beaten by Wisconsin the same way they were beaten by UVA
 

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IMO the loss of Poythress hurt way more than some realize. Losing a good defensive player that was a potential double double guy would hurt any team. When you add that he was experienced and was one of the potential team leaders that compounds the problem.
 

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If you noticed... when we played with a chip on our shoulder we were unstoppable. Against WVU we played with a chip on our shoulder and we demolished them. Against UCLA, for whatever reason, we wanted to show the world that we were for real and they went out there and held them to 7 points at halftime. Against Kansas we went out there and showed the world that we were not to be taken lightly. Every time that people really thought a team could actually challenge us this UK team stepped up and did everything they could to prove them wrong. When they didn't play with that chip they tended to play down to their opponents, as they did against TAMU, Ole Miss, and others. I think against Wisconsin and even ND they didn't play with that same chip on their shoulder. They went in thinking they were better and could beat them rather than wanting to prove that they were better. ND was almost good enough to rise above that, and Wisconsin was good enough. I think if we go out there and play to kill every team like we played to kill WVU then we might have the nets tied to our hats.
 

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Originally posted by weatherbird:
I had noticed, as many have done, that we didn't seem to improve, and in fact actually got a little worse as the season went on. As I reflected back, I noticed a difference in the team around the first of the year. I wasn't sure what the difference was, but it was pretty obvious that the team we all witnessed murder teams in the non-conference schedule, was all of the sudden struggling a little bit against the lesser quality SEC teams, and then even against the NCAA tournament teams that we faced. I watched a few games from both portions of the season, and came up with 3 things that I think lead to ending that none of us wanted.

First, the only physical reason of the 3, Alex's injury. While I think this may have contributed to the other 2 things I noticed, it was a big blow to the team. The team continued to win, so a lot of people tended to believe that it didn't make that much of a difference, and some of the media even stated that we would be better because of it. That was false. Alex was the leading scorer for us in the bahamas, and was the one guy who could actually lock down the bigger and more physical wing players that kentucky faced. He was a match-up nightmare in his own right, mostly because of athletic ability, as it was hard to keep him off the glass, and even harder to keep him from making big defensive plays, as he did in the tournament run last year.

The second thing, was we stopped platooning. Yes, we went back to it from time to time, and looked great doing it, but it largely went away as the season wore on. Now, even without Alex, we still platooned for a bit, but as the season wore on, we moved to a more normal substitution pattern, and often cut the rotation down to really just 7-8 guys. I believe this is why the team which started off on a course to be by far the best defensive team in history saw their defense start looking not as good. The defensive intensity that they played with in the first part of the year cannot be sustained for more than 4-5 minutes at a time. With the platoon system, that wasn't a problem, as the players were getting breathers after 4-5 minutes. They were relentless on the defensive side of the ball, and often that lead to wearing teams out, even teams that tried to play slow down basketball.

And the last thing that I noticed was that this team quit taking the first shot available, and started looking to find the best shot available. In the first half of the season, they were taking the first open look they found, which was usually just 2-3 passes into the offense. As the season wore on, they quit pressing the issue on the offensive side, by not taking those shots, and instead started searching for the best shot available. That often resulted in slowing the pace, and then trying to cram the ball inside. This wasn't the philosophy early in the year. The perimeter players took more shots early, and they crashed the offensive glass. That is easier to do on perimeter shots, but much harder to get offensive rebounds when the shot is coming from around the block areas, as most players are already bunched up, and easily blocked out. The offense was more spread out early on, and because of that, other teams were having to try to block out our athletes that were diving toward the rim. It is why teams like ND and Wisc get a lot of offensive rebounds. They spread you out, then let athletes run to the rim on shots, where they become hard to block out.

In essence, this team tried to become Cal's previous teams, execution style team. That was not what made them unbeatable early on, shear depth and talent did, but they negated that as the season wore on. Now I am not sure whether this change was because of Cal, the players or some other reason, but I believe these are the changes that took this team from possibly the greatest of all-time, to just a really good to great team in a good year of college basketball.
I agree with this intelligent and well written post.
 

ukdesi

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Originally posted by weatherbird:

Originally posted by Kampus Korner:
Shaking my head at such a lengthy criticism about a team and its coach who won 38 straight games. We lost one game. sheesh!
The post wasn't meant to be a criticism, and I apologize if you took it that way. The post was about the differences that I saw between early in the year, and towards the end of the year. I'm not saying the changes were right or wrong, and perhaps the changes were needed to keep us unbeaten. Either way, there are two things that are undeniable, this team was record setting, and they weren't near as dominate at the end of the year as they were at the beginning of the year.
Not sure whether that is undeniable. They struggled vs Columbia and Buffalo. They also dominated WVU as bad as any team all season. I think a lot of that was due to matchups rather than a team regression.

They were never a great offensive team, and I believe that constant stayed with them throughout the season. I think of Wisconsin as sort of a supersized Columbia. Deliberate, get the best shot style of offense, just obviously much better players on Wisconsin's team.
 

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Agree with 2 and 3. But you are romanticising Poythress like everyone else. He has a tendency to be like WCS and disappear for games at a time.
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YouKay

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Originally posted by ukdesi:


Originally posted by weatherbird:


Originally posted by Kampus Korner:
Shaking my head at such a lengthy criticism about a team and its coach who won 38 straight games. We lost one game. sheesh!
The post wasn't meant to be a criticism, and I apologize if you took it that way. The post was about the differences that I saw between early in the year, and towards the end of the year. I'm not saying the changes were right or wrong, and perhaps the changes were needed to keep us unbeaten. Either way, there are two things that are undeniable, this team was record setting, and they weren't near as dominate at the end of the year as they were at the beginning of the year.
Not sure whether that is undeniable. They struggled vs Columbia and Buffalo. They also dominated WVU as bad as any team all season. I think a lot of that was due to matchups rather than a team regression.

They were never a great offensive team, and I believe that constant stayed with them throughout the season. I think of Wisconsin as sort of a supersized Columbia. Deliberate, get the best shot style of offense, just obviously much better players on Wisconsin's team.
They were a great offensive team when Booker and Ulis were hot. And they were both hot in the game Saturday, but didn't get enough time because Cal wanted the Harrisons on the floor. But all 4 guards had streaky seasons. When they were hitting shots UK looked unstoppable on offense as well as defense.

Wisconsin was a team built to exploit UK's switching defense, and they did several times. They were actually a supersized Notre Dame with better inside players. It took an insane 9/9 field goals and 6/6 free throws for UK to eke out a win over Notre Dame. Against Wisconsin UK scored on only 2 of its last 11 possessions.
 

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The OP had some good points. There did seem to be a change toward the end of the season.

I love this team--they won 38 games! But, it's okay to sit back and take a look at the season as a whole. Being critical (in the correct sense of the word) is not being negative. The OP offered a well-written critical look at the team. Good job.
 

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One thing about the team is that it became more and more dependent on Towns. When your big is getting that many touches, it's going to affect your pace. When pace is affected, possessions are shrunk and when possessions shrink it's hard to get separation from teams. You start winning games in the single digits that you may've won early in the season by 15+.

Ironically I think the same thing happened with the Wall/Cousins team. Obviously it's borderline insanity to suggest the ball shouldn't have been entered to Cousins and Towns. And it's obvious that if it had been entered to Cousins, we beat West Virginia.

But if you go back to that team, they had some of the same issues as far as regression. They were better in January than they were in March.

I think it's just a byproduct of this being a guards' game. Guards win in this sport and feeding the ball to the post, primarily against teams who work the shot clock and don't turn it over, really shrinks that amazing margin for error we talked about all year.
 

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Originally posted by JasonS.:

There's also the issue of Notre Dame and Wisconsin being the best two teams we played all year by a country mile ....
EXACTLY. Funny seeing all these people trying to figure out the "mystery" of why we looked so different against Notre Dame and Wisconsin, yet without bothering to address the most obvious reason: ND and Wiscy were by far the two best teams we faced all season long (Wisconsin, in particular, was on an entirely different plane than anyone else we'd faced), so it shouldn't have been that shocking that we'd have a much harder time playing against them.
 
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they were not the best defensive teams we faced.

the cats on both sides of the court looked no different than they did in games vs Vanderbilt or Georgia

This post was edited on 4/7 4:20 PM by SomeDudeCRO
 

cawoodsct

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We are scrutinizing, analyzing, breaking down an entire year with multiple threads for a team that had they scored 1 basket or made a couple free throws when up 4 would have certainly played last night for the title. Seems like we are reaching a bit too much, jmo.
 

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Originally posted by Kampus Korner:
Shaking my head at such a lengthy criticism about a team and its coach who won 38 straight games. We lost one game. sheesh!
I don't think anyone is criticizing. I don't agree with the entirely of the post, buts its not negative at all.

We have more NBA players on our rosters than the D league, and play in the SEC which has been down (I admit it) as of late. Winning 38 games is really really really good. Its historically good, but its not historically great. We had a really good year, that could have been great, and should have been. figuring out the ins and outs of that is why we are on a discussion board.


This post was edited on 4/7 4:39 PM by .S&C.
 

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As bad as we think the offense was vs. Wisconsin, it was even worse with Poythress. He probably helps out on the defensive end, but with no outside shot to speak of, likely just clogs the inside and kills any offensive flow we have.
 

ukdesi

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Originally posted by YouKay:
Originally posted by ukdesi:


Originally posted by weatherbird:


Originally posted by Kampus Korner:
Shaking my head at such a lengthy criticism about a team and its coach who won 38 straight games. We lost one game. sheesh!
The post wasn't meant to be a criticism, and I apologize if you took it that way. The post was about the differences that I saw between early in the year, and towards the end of the year. I'm not saying the changes were right or wrong, and perhaps the changes were needed to keep us unbeaten. Either way, there are two things that are undeniable, this team was record setting, and they weren't near as dominate at the end of the year as they were at the beginning of the year.
Not sure whether that is undeniable. They struggled vs Columbia and Buffalo. They also dominated WVU as bad as any team all season. I think a lot of that was due to matchups rather than a team regression.

They were never a great offensive team, and I believe that constant stayed with them throughout the season. I think of Wisconsin as sort of a supersized Columbia. Deliberate, get the best shot style of offense, just obviously much better players on Wisconsin's team.
They were a great offensive team when Booker and Ulis were hot. And they were both hot in the game Saturday, but didn't get enough time because Cal wanted the Harrisons on the floor. But all 4 guards had streaky seasons. When they were hitting shots UK looked unstoppable on offense as well as defense.

Wisconsin was a team built to exploit UK's switching defense, and they did several times. They were actually a supersized Notre Dame with better inside players. It took an insane 9/9 field goals and 6/6 free throws for UK to eke out a win over Notre Dame. Against Wisconsin UK scored on only 2 of its last 11 possessions.
Yeah I mean we were still a good offensive team, but not great. However I agree with you in that when Booker and Ulis were hitting we became great. I'm surprised they weren't more consistent throughout the season honestly.

We needed our guards/wings to give us what Jones/Allen/Winslow (Duke's frosh) gave them......and that was a lot of big plays. But their players were a little more offensively skilled than ours.

Andrew Harrison seemed tenative in those 3 straight possessions, and that surprises me as well. Dekker hit that step back 3 against us, full of confidence and determination, and Jones had that for Duke last night as well. Mental toughness was sort of an issue....it seemed that Wisconsin had more of that down the stretch than us.
 

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Very interesting analysis, and no, you did not use too many words. You make some very good points. In retrospect, and I thought this at the time, that we lost the championship when Alex went down. We recovered nicely, but he would have been a critical asset when we played good teams down the stretch. Our bad fortune once again that we had to deal with that kind of major injury to such an important player. In fact, bad fortune at the end of the year abounds, as we know the rest of the story now.

I missed the "Spurs-like" passing that we saw a good amount of in the Bahamas--it seemed to diminish in its effectiveness, and I wondered when or if we'd be so good about sharing, passing quickly, and getting quickly into an offensive mode. Maybe this team needed less constraints and more freedom--pass twice or three times and get up a shot, go for the rebound, and get up as many shots as possible. Yes, we were 38-0, and were brilliant until the last against much better competition. I also would include experience, complacency, and in fact some pressure to remain perfect as big factors in our demise. Seeding and referees' decisions at critical junctures, the worst being a shot-clock violation, also did not help our cause. Duke of course played well, but had a great road to the championship...tons more difficult than the one we had and just poorly done (not fair) by the committee.
 

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We've got to stop choking the life out of shooters. Against Wisconsin we should have strafed that team and won by 15. Booker, Ulis, and the Twins should have put up at least 20 threes and most would have been wide open. We could have beat them off the dribble all night and forced them to collapse and leave shooters wide open or give up lob dunks or layup/and 1's.

Also, what good is it to play 10 deep if you're not going to press and trap to dictate tempo against a team like Wisconsin? We were not going to win the efficiency game so we obviously needed to generate more possessions. That's why you had those stupid halftime numbers that had us shooting 100% from 3 and FT and 60% from the field yet were in a tie, because we weren't generating any extra possessions and at the same time getting bent over by giving up offensive rebounds. We played right into their hands by not allowing our shooters and our athleticism to put more pressure on Wisconsin to make decision. All they had to do was collapse on defense and go to the glass on offense because we weren't playing to our strengths we were playing their game.
 

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Lord crow.....72 posts, but this post beats most of those guys/gals with 5 figures of posts.

I totally agree with this assessment.

I hope Cal will review both the ND game and this game, and see that perhaps he ought to be a little more flexible on approaches to certain teams.

A Defensive zone is not the worst thing in the world on occassion, especially if the texture of the game seems to be leaving your desire.
 

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I thought they changed immediately after the winter break. The biggest difference I observed was the rotation used and the pace of play. Still, at the time it was all about "the future" and that's what you need to do in order to win tournament games (or at least, that's what everyone kept telling me).
 

jameslee32

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Originally posted by Lord_Crow:
We've got to stop choking the life out of shooters. Against Wisconsin we should have strafed that team and won by 15. Booker, Ulis, and the Twins should have put up at least 20 threes and most would have been wide open. We could have beat them off the dribble all night and forced them to collapse and leave shooters wide open or give up lob dunks or layup/and 1's.

Also, what good is it to play 10 deep if you're not going to press and trap to dictate tempo against a team like Wisconsin? We were not going to win the efficiency game so we obviously needed to generate more possessions. That's why you had those stupid halftime numbers that had us shooting 100% from 3 and FT and 60% from the field yet were in a tie, because we weren't generating any extra possessions and at the same time getting bent over by giving up offensive rebounds. We played right into their hands by not allowing our shooters and our athleticism to put more pressure on Wisconsin to make decision. All they had to do was collapse on defense and go to the glass on offense because we weren't playing to our strengths we were playing their game.
Cal didn't play 10. He barely played more than 7 in this tournament. Lee and DJ each logged less than 10 minutes each in the semi-final.

Despite every explanation for our woes, this team had all the momentum it needed with 6:00 left up 4 before the officials succumbed to Ryan's whining about a flagrant foul. This was a brilliant move on his part. Wisconsin regrouped and Dekker took over with some much needed rest. The rest is history.

The defense we've come to expect and which reappeared in the 2nd half, fell flat late in the game. Every offensive stat showed the effort on that end of the floor was good enough for a win. UK didn't get more opportunities on offense because the rebounding and defense didn't provide them.
 

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Losing Alex may have been the difference between a great team an a historic one. I was not 100% sold on platooning before I saw what they were capable of against KU and UCLA. I think, what really made this team special was the ability to go 10 guys. They were still great with 9 but being able to do a true platoon system (5 guys in 5 guys out) made them like no other team that I am aware of. The intensity that afforded them was unbelievable.
 

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Originally posted by SituationBlue:
As bad as we think the offense was vs. Wisconsin, it was even worse with Poythress. He probably helps out on the defensive end, but with no outside shot to speak of, likely just clogs the inside and kills any offensive flow we have.
WOW, bloomin IDDY OTT
 

barryn2000

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Originally posted by .S&C.:

figuring out the ins and outs of that is why we are on a discussion board.
We didn't rebound and make shots in last 4 min....that's pretty much the in and out.

It really doesn't require a slide rule, charts, graphs and intensive study. There are plenty of 4 min dry spells over the 39 games, plenty of bad calls as well...many came when UK had a lead, earlier in the game clock or against an inferior team.

In this case...we were up against a solid team, it was at the end of the game, the score was close, we hit a scoring dry spell.

I realize people want a deeper, complex explanation. There has to be a villain...someone has to be blamed.

The truth is less sexy...and things that caused the loss started right after we went up 5-0....went to the end. You can pick any 3 of the 28 missed FG's and say "those 3 shots cost us the game" and you'd be as right as someone that said the last three missed shots cost us the game.

This is a discussion board....and while people may need to beat this to death to get closure, beginning from a premise that their is a highly complex single root cause is just a exercise in coping and acceptance.


 

acatnamedmyra

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Originally posted by barryn2000:
Originally posted by .S&C.:

figuring out the ins and outs of that is why we are on a discussion board.
We didn't rebound and make shots in last 4 min....that's pretty much the in and out.

It really doesn't require a slide rule, charts, graphs and intensive study. There are plenty of 4 min dry spells over the 39 games, plenty of bad calls as well...many came when UK had a lead, earlier in the game clock or against an inferior team.

In this case...we were up against a solid team, it was at the end of the game, the score was close, we hit a scoring dry spell.

I realize people want a deeper, complex explanation. There has to be a villain...someone has to be blamed.

The truth is less sexy...and things that caused the loss started right after we went up 5-0....went to the end. You can pick any 3 of the 28 missed FG's and say "those 3 shots cost us the game" and you'd be as right as someone that said the last three missed shots cost us the game.

This is a discussion board....and while people may need to beat this to death to get closure, beginning from a premise that their is a highly complex single root cause is just a exercise in coping and acceptance.


This, well said!
 
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