I'm not in the "fire Mullen camp"...

[missouridawg]

But I do reside in the "lets talk to some great coaches and gauge their interest" camp (much like Mullen and his annual job search). If we can pull a Howland-Ray type hire with Mullen, then I'd be all for moving on.

I say that, to say this... Does anyone here think Penn State or Notre Dame may take our problem off of our hands and get us out from the buyout? Both of those teams are struggling big time with coaches there in year 3 or more...

Random thoughts on a Monday...

 

[57stratdawg]

I hate seeing people pissed at Dan Mullen for being Dan Mullen. It's not like anything we're seeing in 2016 wasn't up front and obvious in 2011-2013.

Lack of pass rush.
Soft coverages.
OT issues.

We've seen all of this for 8 years. I don't know why we're acting surprised by it now.

 

[missouridawg]

I hate seeing people pissed at Dan Mullen for being Dan Mullen. It's not like anything we're seeing in 2016 wasn't up front and obvious in 2011-2013.

Lack of pass rush.
Soft coverages.
OT issues.

We've seen all of this for 8 years. I don't know why we're acting surprised by it now.

If he proactively fixed problems, Id chip in for his statue now. A coach who doesn't evolve... deserves to be a former coach.

 

[57stratdawg]

Yeah. I'm with you.

To answer your question, no I don't think ND or PSU would hire him. I see him leaving for a more or less lateral P5 job: Kansas State, Georgia Tech, Arizona, etc.

 

[Shamoan]

no way on notre dame. maybe on penn state, but that is a year or two of bad football down the road and the shine of mullen's #1 ranking is fading enough to where he may not last that long unless he can turn things around and start acting accountable and like he cares.

 

[John Lorry]

I think expecting a Howland type of hire in football is a non-starter. If there was an AAU/Adidas equivalent in football, then maybe, but there's not.

And comparing Mullen with Ray is ridiculous for obvious reasons.

If there were a significant step up from Mullen that is interested, then of course I think MSU should consider it. Just like any deal is a good deal at the right price. I just don't see that scenario as likely to happen.

 

[Rayburn8]

Does no one remember what happened to Southern Mississippi when they tried to hire up?

Good short term success and then it went downhill fast. MSU doesn't need to hire a new coach after one bad year. Everyone knew it was going to be a rough year I don't understand why everyone is surprised.

Now, there probably need to be some adjustments made to the assistant coaching staff. But Mullen should have a job here as long as he wants it.

 

[missouridawg]

I think expecting a Howland type of hire in football is a non-starter. If there was an AAU/Adidas equivalent in football, then maybe, but there's not.

And comparing Mullen with Ray is ridiculous for obvious reasons.

If there were a significant step up from Mullen that is interested, then of course I think MSU should consider it. Just like any deal is a good deal at the right price. I just don't see that scenario as likely to happen.

I certainly wasn't comparing Mullen to Ray in a coaching sense. I was making the comparison to how the hire needed to happen (if it happens at all)... as in the next coach must be on board before we move on Mullen. Thats the only way we can move on, in my opinion. Firing Mullen and then doing a search would be a downright disaster.

 

[missouridawg]

Does no one remember what happened to Southern Mississippi when they tried to hire up?

Good short term success and then it went downhill fast. MSU doesn't need to hire a new coach after one bad year. Everyone knew it was going to be a rough year I don't understand why everyone is surprised.

Now, there probably need to be some adjustments made to the assistant coaching staff. But Mullen should have a job here as long as he wants it.

completely agree with your last sentence. But until Mullen voluntarily makes those changes, he isn't evolving. Most of our assistant changes are because they got poached.

 

[HD6]

Don't agree with your last sentence. Nobody gets to be coach for life.

 

[John Lorry]

I see what you mean now, and I agree with that.