Maybe they are trying to motivate the upperclassmen who seem to have an issue with effort and blocking.
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The bigger the school the more coaching "staff" aka, parent help, you'll have and I agree that the "staff" probably isn't all that great.
But you take the main 3 coaches at a Class A school and they're going to be much better than the top 3 coaches as a Class C2 school.
That's not taking anything away from Class C2 coaches. There are a LOT of great coaches at the smaller Nebraska schools, but the larger schools just require & expect more. Especially when you can transfer wherever in Omaha (for the most part I believe) so you want to show your worth as a coach and get the best players across the city.
I'm just glad you're not making a ridiculous comment that 8-man football is barely the same sport as 11-man football.
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This is true but to clarify, it isn't because he's playing 8-man football and not 11-man football. It's because he's playing at a smaller school.
The idea that if he was playing 11-man football in Valentine, NE (for example) then he'd be so much further along is plain silly.
Maybe, but if he is so limited by the playbook that you can't take snaps away then I don't see the point. Usually you motivate people with lack of playing time, not a position on the depth chart.
Exactly. C1 and C2 (11-man) are very basic just like D1 and D2 (8-man).
So the difference isn't because it's 11-man vs 8-man. It's when you get to the Class A level and possibly some Class B level.
The dude has had less than 15 offensive snaps in 3 blowout games. Talent isn't an issue.... Idc where he is on the depth chart, he clearly doesn't have a full grasp of the offense. It seems obvious to me.
So after all of these mental gymnastics and reclarifying your point multiple times, your split hairs argument is that his adjustment is solely based on coming from lower tier football, not 8 man......vs my general argument that it is a huge adjustment coming from 8 man ball, which by direct association is lower tier football.
Congratulations, you spent 3 days arguing a fringe point to white knight for 8 man football, only to in essence agree with me.......
Curious, where do find the snap count? I can only find a participation report showing who played.
Parent help is 99% of the time a nightmare, not a help. It just isn't helpful at all. Non-parent volunteers are a goldmine!
But yeah, the top 3 coaches at the schools pretty much do it all and PROBABLY the bigger the school the better the coaches just because most coaches want to be a bigger schools.
It's on PFF premium. They post the game by game breakdowns on On3. I dont have an account there, so I have to check with buddies, but for UNI I was given 8 snaps, 4 catches. I know he's on kickoff return, so that's 2 snaps. I'm not sure if he's on other units but I'd assume a couple. So roughly you could assume he play 4-5 offensive snaps that were almost exclusively designed for him.
Ok. Was at the game and it seemed like more than that, but I'm sure your info is correct.
Can't say. Just citing what was reported.
I'll post the other numbers if I get them.
I think the Husker D is more than capable of putting pressure on Altmeyer and make his night in Memorial Stadium an uncomfortable one. You think Rhule upgraded Mazzccua to available because he thinks he needs him to protect DR and get a run game going or because Mazzccua has been doing the right things to get out of Rhule's doghouse?
I think Rhule plays the long game with teachable moments. If he had neen benched for behavior for X amount of time, but is allowed to play before his suspension is up, that is sending a message to the team that good players get special treatment. Rather, I suspect Mazz was suspended "TBD depending on attitude" and he's been upgraded due to positive steps in attitude. A teachable scenario for both him and the team as a whole.
my best guess on Rhule's backtracking with MM is that he just spoke too soon/said too much and it has nothing to do with our opponent
happens to guys who talk a lot
You can only punish a guy for so long.
He already sat out a game, clearly it was not a huge issue or he would have been booted off the team. Sometimes guys yell, sometimes they get mad. You are dealing with 100+ players, they all have different personalities.
He already sat out a game, clearly it was not a huge issue or he would have been booted off the team. Sometimes guys yell, sometimes they get mad. You are dealing with 100+ players, they all have different personalities.
He didn't speak to soon or say to much. MM served time in the bench. You really love to gaslight any situation Rhule is in. Beyond strange
There’s a reason top 5 programs were flying in to O’Neill to visit him. There’s no sense in redshirting him. Barring injury he won’t be in Lincoln for 4 years.
I'm simply speaking from experience as someone who also talks a lot.
Rhule's MM comments came after he was benched last weekend.
my explanation is the most likely scenario. it happens.
How would this be even possible? He wouldn't have played a dozen years or so of 11-man football.
Smokin
If you really want to play the "gotcha" game, study Kong.
You need help to do what you are trying, maybe he will give you an internship?
Otherwise, I will confess, I do not think you argue particularly well.
Go Big Red!!!
Well there are the facts folks. The most likely scenario. Preacher Gas-bag Rhule has clearly mishandled ANOTHER situation…Does he make it to the end of the season?
The last thing this board wants is another Kong (no offense Kong).
I agree, I could argue much better. I've never had the strong skill set to put my thoughts on paper. I'm much better debating verbally.
But, you have to admit that I'm;
1) Consistant.
2) I don't change the subject or move the goal post.
3) I don't exaggerated, speak in absolutes or hyperbole.
No, verbatim means to quote in exactly the same words as were used originally. Not, "what someone means".
I provided 5 examples, not 4. I also didn't go through all of the schools who jumped from 8-man up to 11-man. There may be only 5 examples in total and I listed them all so I'd be batting 1000. Feel free to disprove me, but you asked for examples and I gave them.
I'm not sure why I'm arguing with someone who thinks 8-man isn't real football? Wtf do you think (roughly) half of the schools playing HS ball on Friday nights are doing?
Now you're adding in another variable into the equation. You're of course doing this to try and strengthen your argument, but debating doesn't work like that.
I gave you that answer in my first and third responses back to you. Pay attention.So after all of these mental gymnastics and reclarifying your point multiple times, your split hairs argument is that his adjustment is solely based on coming from lower tier football, not 8 man......vs my general argument that it is a huge adjustment coming from 8 man ball, which by direct association is lower tier football.
Congratulations, you spent 3 days arguing a fringe point to white knight for 8 man football, only to in essence agree with me.......
Obviously we dont agree because you believe that if Carter had played 11-man ball for some C2 school then he'd be much further along than he is now. Whereas, I don't believe that.
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Freak athlete It has little to do with where played. I’m assuming he got some coaching at summer camps as well. I doubt he went to an 8 man specific camp.
It's hard to pay attention when half of your responses say "let me clarify/I should have clarified/etc." Then I am left to argue with a guy who has 2-3 different arguments going at once because he can't form a coherent point.
My argument was more general....8 man/small school vs 11 man/larger school. For some reason you keep wanting to spin this back into some pro 8 man argument. Typical straw man move, where I want to argue 8 man vs 11 man, and I'm being pigeon holed into arguing D1 vs C2 for some reason.
But yes. I think ANY 11 man experience would have Nelson further along. The level of said 11 man ball, that impact could be more or less.
Dude I'm so lost. You've already responded to this once...
Yes, 5 examples, that i could care less to corroborate, over 10-20-30 years....5 guys win the lottery per year too, but they are the exception, not the rule.
Sorry you're lost on what verbatim means. Idk how to help you out there.
How many teams have moved up from 8-man to 11-man football? If you don't know (which is fine), then how could you know whether they are the exception or the rule?
Half of my responses? I'm pretty sure I said "let me clarify" one time to you.
Nuances & being specific are important while you feel they are not. You're lumping all 11-man football together while I am not.
See now you're changing your own argument....because you went out of your way to explain earlier that they went up to 11 man and had success.
I'm good man. You're a schizophrenic.
That's because I am making a GENERAL common sense argument that a kid, no matter how talented, is going to be behind in development from playing 8 man ball(small school implied) than if he played 11 man ball(larger school implied).
I didn't think that was controversial until I ran into the white knight of 8 man ball who decided to take offense. JFC
I'm not though. I looked briefly and found 5 schools that jumped from 8-man to 11-man and all 5 of those schools had successful seasons in 11-man. Being 8-man previously wasn't a hindrance (how could that be? They were barely playing football before)....
I'm not going to pretend that those were the ONLY 5 schools to jump from 8-man up to 11-man. It's possible there were more which is a reasonable take.
You're either too lazy or just don't care enough to see what other schools made the jump from 8-man to 11-man. Probably the latter, but if you're not going to do a little bit of research, then don't come at me like I'm wrong unless you have proof.
Nobody is offended. I just think your general take is stupid.
I tried helping you out by saying Class A ball would have made a difference, but you keep doubling down that 8-man vs 11-man, in general, is so different and that 8-man is barely even football.