This could get good. JD can’t make an accusation like that and then do nothing!
yea, our officials seem to make a lot of accusations, and not a lot of actions...wow. shots fired. I'd take that one step further. He can't say that and not be right.
I'd personally rather our officials not say things like that at all. I'd rather that if they have the goods then just take some action and let it be reported on as it goes along.
I know it's politics. Get the accusation out there in the media to do the real damage. But to me its punching down for the VPOTUS. Even if not, what exacly is there to gain by that?yea, our officials seem to make a lot of accusations, and not a lot of actions...
without action, these kinds of accusations make Vance look stupid, and basically just turns everything said into a political attack. IMO, makes Omar even strongerI know it's politics. Get the accusation out there in the media to do the real damage. But to me its punching down for the VPOTUS. Even if not, what exacly is there to gain by that?
This could get good. JD can’t make an accusation like that and then do nothing!
"Get the accusation out there in the media to do the real damage".I know it's politics. Get the accusation out there in the media to do the real damage. But to me its punching down for the VPOTUS. Even if not, what exacly is there to gain by that?
you're not alone in your belief"Get the accusation out there in the media to do the real damage".
Which media outlet will cover this? Supposedly, this has been a known "fact" for at least several years.
Nothing will happen. Call me a pessimist,
What I was pointing to was the possibility that Illhan Omar has committed immigration fraud. The reports that she married her brother are out there. It should be pretty simple for the FBI to find that out, and have been known for years.you're not alone in your belief
we've been cutting waste fraud and abuse for decades and so far the only administration that has really taken it on is this one. And frankly, I'm not certain they'll go as far as they should or could.
and you're right.What I was pointing to was the possibility that Illhan Omar has committed immigration fraud. The reports that she married her brother are out there. It should be pretty simple for the FBI to find that out, and have been known for years.
It's either true, or it's not. If it is true, there is no way she should be sitting in the congress of the US.
Just a general statement on how assassination by media is done by many in DC politics. But that’s not what this is because as you point out this is not a new allegation. I think vance usually does a good job in front of the mic so this doesn’t make any sense to me."Get the accusation out there in the media to do the real damage".
If I tell you a chicken can pull a wagon, you better hook it up.and you're right.
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Report: Trump lawyer brokered $130,000 payment to porn star
President Donald Trump's personal lawyer brokered a $130,000 payment to porn actress Stormy Daniels to prevent her from publicly discussing an alleged sexual encounter with Trump, according to reports Friday.www.nbcnews.com
There’s no hope for you …I say to thee - beware your stupid sources
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Report: Trump lawyer brokered $130,000 payment to porn star
President Donald Trump's personal lawyer brokered a $130,000 payment to porn actress Stormy Daniels to prevent her from publicly discussing an alleged sexual encounter with Trump, according to reports Friday.www.nbcnews.com
Nobody cares that he had an affair with Stormy but LOL that you give him a pass because it had nothing to do with his policy positions - this was a story about his character that he wanted to hide from the public. And don't forget about the Enquirer catch and kill story about Karen McDougal, the playboy bunny he had a year-long affair with around the same time. Both while married to Melania and during her pregnancy with Barron.So what?
Trump said he didn't have sex with Daniels. I think he lied but he didn't do it under oath or in the Oval Office. The affair was long before he ran for office and IMO had nothing to do with his policy positions. I agree that calling it a legal fee was less than transparent but I'm pretty sure that he didn't have an account set up for hush money. It's beyond any reasonable stretch for him to be charged and convicted on 37 felony counts. There's a reason there was no fine.
So what?
Trump said he didn't have sex with Daniels. I think he lied but he didn't do it under oath or in the Oval Office. The affair was long before he ran for office and IMO had nothing to do with his policy positions. I agree that calling it a legal fee was less than transparent but I'm pretty sure that he didn't have an account set up for hush money. It's beyond any reasonable stretch for him to be charged and convicted on 37 felony counts. There's a reason there was no fine.
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I've been clear that I think Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels and he paid hush money. That affair was 20 years ago. Failure to disclose the payment was probably a campaign finance violation and it should have been penalized as such even though the payments occurred after the 2016 election. Many legal scholars believe the felony charges were contrived as Bragg “bootstrapped” misdemeanor charges into felonies by linking them to an obscure, time-barred election law.The reason there was no fine was that he was the incoming POTUS. That's right ... enough Americans were so unethical and immoral that they voted in a felon. A felon who committed his felonies surrounding political gain. And enough awful excuses for humans looked at that and said "that's the guy we want to represent us and be the head of law and order, and fixing politics."
I've been clear that I think Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels and he paid hush money. That affair was 20 years ago. Failure to disclose the payment was probably a campaign finance violation and it should have been penalized as such even though the payments occurred after the 2016 election. Many legal scholars believe the felony charges were contrived as Bragg “bootstrapped” misdemeanor charges into felonies by linking them to an obscure, time-barred election law.
A lot of people (probably including you) voted for Clinton in spite of the fact that he was a known adulterer. He had sex with an intern in the Oval Office, was accused by many more women of having inappropriate sexual contact, and actually paid Paula Joes $850k. Were people who voted for him unethical and immoral or did they prefer his policies to those of Bush & Dole? Do you realize that Harris probably lost more than Trump won?
You have a lot of excuses Moogy. Then you call Trump voters racist because they didn't vote for Harris. Wow!I did not vote for Clinton. Either time. Admittedly the first time he ran, I was too young to vote ... but I wouldn't have voted for him if I was old enough - I remember being at college and seeing that he had a campaign stop there, and feeling angry because I was being inconvenienced by a guy I wasn't even supporting. I was a conservative Wall Street yuppie in training back then.
His Lewinsky scandal wouldn't have factored into anyone voting, or not voting, for him, since it came to light well into his 2nd term.
Some of the other issues - like Paula Jones - also occurred in a "different time," when society wasn't as concerned with defending sexual assault victims ... as sad as that may be to think about, it's true. That was closer to a time when movies made young rapists into the heroes of the movie (Sixteen Candles, Revenge of the Nerds, etc. in the mid-80s) than it is to today's post-Me Too era. That isn't to excuse it ... just to explain that society may or may not have cracked down on a sexual offender as readily ... in fact, the Paula Jones situation may very well have spurred on the MeToo movement, because of how poorly she was treated then. That's what's supposed to happen in a society - we have progress ... we live and learn ... we certainly don't say "well, since George Washington owned slaves, it would be OK if Trump owned slaves." Why? Because we've evolved.
But, yeah, I found folks who supported Clinton to be lacking in morality ... though Clinton isn't near the all around criminal that Trump is ... and was well before he was a political figure. And I say that never having supported Bill Clinton.
Yes, I realize that limited, scared people wouldn't vote for a black woman ... it was a poor strategic decision by the Dems to put her forward as a candidate. But, if MAGAts weren't MAGAts (i.e. they had even a mild level of actual morality, it wouldn't have mattered if the Dems put forward an actual rock as their candidate, that would have been preferable to your Fuhrer, the serial felon sexual predator pathologically self-centered mob boss who actively and openly despises you, and others who voted for him.
You have a lot of excuses Moogy. Then you call Trump voters racist because they didn't vote for Harris. Wow!
They didn't vote for Harris as she comes across as not that bright.You have a lot of excuses Moogy. Then you call Trump voters racist because they didn't vote for Harris. Wow!
They didn't vote for Harris as she comes across as not that bright.
The short video captures her verbal slip while opposing the act's use for deportations, though full C-SPAN footage shows her immediately correcting to "two" after glancing at her notes.