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IHSA Top 50 Programs
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A good ten years hasn't put them in the top ten, which should be the minimum requirement for greatness.
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All.... Well that went out the window last year for some reason. Sitting back silent and doing nothing could be mistaken for complicity and acceptance. Not an acquired taste for many especially the old guard who behave. But it is what it is as they say. Ratsy
"The Broncos defeated East St. Louis 24-14 in the title bout of the City of Champions Classic on Saturday at Clyde Jordan Stadium."
Montini beat ESL in 2015, not recent, but not ancient history either.
Read more at: https://www.bnd.com/sports/high-school/prep-football/article34227387.html#storylink=cpy
Montini is not in the original CCL but they are a team that has earned respect and defeated ESL a few times.
Who said or thinks that?Defeating ESL means more to the CCL guys than winning a state championship. Very telling indeed
I think it’s cool that the top 2 will be revealed during the championships.
Anyone know if the top 5 is already set, or will the results of this season influence the top few teams?
I assume the top 3 are JCA, Mt. Carmel and ESL in some order.
Anyone know if the top 5 is already set, or will the results of this season influence the top few teams?
I assume the top 3 are JCA, Mt. Carmel and ESL in some order.
Dumbest thing I've seen here in years,Defeating ESL means more to the CCL guys than winning a state championship. Very telling indeed
I like your list, but I'd also add LWE. They have made 24 straight playoff appearances every single year of their existence.
It really depends on the criteria used in the rankings. Without a doubt, LWE is a top ten program right now, but due to the fact they have only been around 25 years, not sure if they are a top ten program historically. We shall see how they handle it.
It seems like they weigh the championships more than sustained success. Which isn't too outlandish
LWE will certainly be up there, likely flirting with top ten if not 10th or 9th.
They might just miss out due to longevity.
I think this year will count. MC and JCA, now tied in points and number of titles, will be either one and two, or still tied at the end. It adds an extra dose of excitement to the playoffs, the finals, and the showdown on Oct. 11.
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Since they already started releasing the list I assume it's set, and this year does not impact it.
Like if a team that they already released as say #38 won state would they amend the rankings. I think his point is that they wouldn't
I lean towards the idea that it’s already set, but since the top 5 or so won’t be released until championship weekend, I figured it’s possible that the top few teams could still be fluid
#33 Richards (Oak Lawn)
The 1989 4A title game against Morris is probably one of my first football memories and also one of the best games I have still ever seen. The reminder in the write up about the INT on the last play of regulation that Morris came so close to returning for a TD is still heart breaking.
The 1989 4A title game against Morris is probably one of my first football memories and also one of the best games I have still ever seen. The reminder in the write up about the INT on the last play of regulation that Morris came so close to returning for a TD is still heart breaking.
This is a horse pucky list. We are behind teams that have 100 less wins than us, less all staters, less all Americans, less D1 and NFL players.
All about the IHSA results pver the last 50, not individual players, or what players went to D1 colleges or the NFL. If you want to play the numbers game, Althoff has few appearances, and wins, and the same amount of titles as Galena but Althoff is ranked higher. They're also just ahead of Naperville Central who has better numbers than Althoff.
From the top 50 website...
Committee members were provided historical data on approximately 200 programs in each sport, which they voted on to whittle it down to the Top 50 list.
“The raw numbers don’t always tell the true story in Illinois high school sports,” said IHSA Assistant Executive Director Matt Troha. “We could have used a formula to name the Top 50 programs, where state championships are worth a certain number of points and postseason wins are worth a certain number of points, but I really don’t think that would have truly reflected the history of IHSA girls volleyball and football. Given the geographical format of IHSA tournaments, there are many programs who never won a state title, likely because they continually ran into another program on our Top 50 list in their geographic area. On the flip side, other programs certainly benefitted from class expansion, winning multiple state titles in short periods of time. There are always going to be programs that have garnered the utmost respect of opposing coaches, regardless of what the numbers say. We asked our committee members to use their lived experiences to tell us what programs belonged on the lists.”
If you count 1974 and 2024, and all the years in between, that would be a total of 51 years.
Just like 9 - 1 = 8. But if you count from 1 to 9, you have counted a total of 9 numbers.
So if the IHSA started with the year 1974 and wanted to use a total of 50 years, they would end with 2023.
This year’s results do NOT count towards their ranking, Einstein.