If you're the Tennessee Titans...

57stratdawg

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Would you trade the #2 pick to SD for Phillip Rivers? A lot of smoke those two are talking.
 

ronpolk

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I wouldn't. I'm not sold on Mariota but the 2nd overall pick is too steep for rivers, although he is great. I'd have to get rivers and maybe a 2nd round pick.
 

121Josey

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Not just no but ELMO. When you draft that high you, need a sure thing. I'd draft Donte Fowler and call it a day.

If I were Tenn, I'd offer to take Jay Cutler off the Bears hands for a late round pick and let the Bears pay his salary.
 

esplanade91

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Not just no but ELMO. When you draft that high you, need a sure thing. I'd draft Donte Fowler and call it a day.

If I were Tenn, I'd offer to take Jay Cutler off the Bears hands for a late round pick and let the Bears pay his salary.

17 no! This draft class is weaker than Tebow's, which was WEAK. The Eagles were willing to trade assets for a beat former college star than virtually the same assets for this year's stars. You should only trade up if you have EVERYTHING set for a Super Bowl run except a WR.

If I'm the Titans I'm taking the best available non-QB in this class, taking my lumps in 2015, and looking forward to the same or better pick next year.

I understand the business. Fans. But the draft is proven to work unless you're the Jags.
 

121Josey

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17 no! This draft class is weaker than Tebow's, which was WEAK. The Eagles were willing to trade assets for a beat former college star than virtually the same assets for this year's stars. You should only trade up if you have EVERYTHING set for a Super Bowl run except a WR.

If I'm the Titans I'm taking the best available non-QB in this class, taking my lumps in 2015, and looking forward to the same or better pick next year.

I understand the business. Fans. But the draft is proven to work unless you're the Jags.

What does your post have to do with mine? It makes no sense at all. You do know the Titans draft second, right?

Bradford's problem is staying healthy. He's still in demand and is possibly trade-bait.
 

thf24

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No. The Titans don't need to make the same mistake as many other teams in recent years (including themselves several times) and panic over the QB position, ending up with a poor or non-solution. I don't think either of the top two draft prospects are a good fit, and while Rivers is in the upper half at the position and brings veteran experience, he's not consistent enough for me to be comfortable with him as a part of the rebuilding effort. I say give Mett another chance this year (he wasn't half bad as a rookie throwing to an average receiving corps behind a piss poor o-line), and if he's obviously not the guy after that, then start making some moves. Work on the team's other deficiencies this year.
 

Optimus Prime 4

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Are they a lost closer to contending than I thought? Because I'd say no, what's the point? Will they win a super bowl in the next four years, if not why get Rivers. Take a young guy to be a possible franchise player. Last week they were going to trade it for Cutler, which also does not make sense.
 

Seinfeld

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Straight up, not a chance. Rivers has been a solid NFL QB over the years, no doubt, but he will be turning 34 in December and you just don't give up a #2 pick for a guy that has maybe 3 good years left in the tank.

Now, if San Diego wants to sweeten the pot with multiple early round draft picks for both this year and next, then I'd start listening, but it would take a lot more than just Rivers if I'm the Titans.

Like some others have already said, the Titans aren't just a QB away from being good. They need help everywhere, so I think they'd be best served to trade down a few spots in the first round while getting 2-3 additional picks backs in the deal. If they can't find a trade partner, then I'd go with Williams, Fowler, or possibly Cooper. I know that most don't have Cooper going until #7 or so, but Tennessee has needed a legit receiver for the better part of a decade, and I just think that he's going to be a stud
 

57stratdawg

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You guys are WAY over value this draft pick especially from a franchise that has swung an missed quite a bit in recent years:

2014:
1) Taylor Lewan
2) Bishop Sankey

2013:
1) Chance Womack
2) Justin Hunter

2012:
1) Kendall Wright
2) Zach Brown

2011:
1) Jake Locker
2) Akeem Ayers

Rivers has let it be known he wants out of SD. If you could get him and flip-flop 1st round picks with SD - I'd do that in a heart beat assuming he'd finish his career in Nashville. Next year's QB class looks better than 2015, you could try to find someone to learn under Rivers then.
 

121Josey

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You over-value Rivers and what he can do in Tenn with the weapons already there. This is Wisenhunt's second draft and last year's draft picks were solid.

You over-estimate the ability to hit and miss at #2 vs. #10+
 

esplanade91

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It makes every bit of sense. Why would either team swap QB's? Rivers is a commodity virtually in his prime. The Chargers aren't good but they're not in full rebuild mode.

You only trade for a veteran QB in his prime if you have everything in place. You only trade your veteran QB in his prime if you decide to completely rebuild your roster.

Not saying it won't happen, because GM's have made weirder trades... But it makes absolutely no sense to trade picks for a fading asset that will do little to impact an already struggling roster.

I understand fans wanting a QB, winning or losing, but the best possible thing the Titans can do is use the #2 pick to draft the best available player... Which isn't a QB.

I'd be pissed if my team dumped the #2 pick for a 33 year old QB.

And going back to my reference that this QB draft class is weak, no one in this draft is worth the Chargers restarting for. An Andrew Luck level guy, sure. But not anyone in this class. Take the DT from USC and call it a day.
 
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57stratdawg

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It's a QB league. Put together a bunch of solid position players (assuming you actually hit on guys) and no QB, and you're the 2014 Buffalo Bills.

Rivers' leading WR (Malcom Floyd) finished around 40th in the NFL in yards last year and his leading RB (Oliver Black) was around 30th. You don't think his weapons with the Titans could put up those kind of numbers?
 

121Josey

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It's a QB league. Put together a bunch of solid position players (assuming you actually hit on guys) and no QB, and you're the 2014 Buffalo Bills.

Rivers' leading WR (Malcom Floyd) finished around 40th in the NFL in yards last year and his leading RB (Oliver Black) was around 30th. You don't think his weapons with the Titans could put up those kind of numbers?

Who is that Antonio Gates guy?** He seems to be a pretty decent WR and almost had as many yards as Floyd.**

Put together a bunch of solid position players with an above average QB with no ability to control the LOS and you're the Dallas Cowboys 2007-2013.

Give me a stud in the trenches with a rookie contract for a few years to build my O/D around.
 

Dawgg

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Yes... take Rivers.

I think my poor Titans have developed a knack for whiffing on 1st round QBs (Young and Locker). You have to go back to McNair to point to a quality QB draftee.

My thinking is yes, give them #2, and take Phillip Rivers.

My thought is get Rivers, solidify the offensive line, then get some bodies that can support Dick LeBeau's defensive schemes.

Oh... and then pick up Dak next year;)
 

DawgatAuburn

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I say give Mett another chance this year (he wasn't half bad as a rookie throwing to an average receiving corps behind a piss poor o-line), and if he's obviously not the guy after that, then start making some moves. Work on the team's other deficiencies this year.

I don't pay any attention at all to the Titans, but I'm with you on this. I think Mettenberger coulld be a really good NFL quarterback. He didn't have any help at all this year. He seemed to be able to make the throws needed when he had Beckham and Landry to throw it to.
 

57stratdawg

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They can't draft another OL, they've taken one in the 1st round the last two years.

The combination of Mettenberger, Bishop Sankey, Justin Hunter, and Leondard William is going to get its *** kicked by Andrew Luck, Frank Gore, and Andre Johnson. That is simply science.
 
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