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mount lefroy

mount lefroy

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And were expecting the penalties to be harsh, would you think there would be an advantage to getting the penalties now or just after the season was over? Meaning would the team play differently?

Yes, bowl game ban would be a part either way.

Ive always known them to be a "wave the bloody shirt" kind of team and think they might play better as "martyrs".
 
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patdog

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They're probably not going to a bowl the first year they become eligible again, so if I were a UM fan, I'd want to play in one this year. Shreveport is better than sitting at home.
 
coach66

coach66

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I'm not sure what I would think. If the rumors are true that there are more

charges coming and that has always been the case (not Tunsil related) then I would be furious with the Ole Miss administration that has been managing this affair because at best they have misled a bunch of folks.

If it swings the other way and there are no new charges and they end of with penalties slightly above what they put on the table then I might want a monument built to those same people.

The next few months are going to be interesting.
 
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gymdawg.sixpack

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I could see either scenario play out if before. But to answer your question, i think the sooner the better for them. Right now theyre basically on probation in recruiting. If your a major recruit no way youre picking them with so much skepticism in regards to the penalties being accentuated by every other recruiting staff interested in you.

I have a follow up question. Do they still administer tv bans? Dont think ive heard this one in a while. And as bad as bowl bans are, not being able to play on tv is huge for young kids. Or is that off the table for punishment now?
 
mount lefroy

mount lefroy

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gymdawg said:
I could see either scenario play out if before. But to answer your question, i think the sooner the better for them. Right now theyre basically on probation in recruiting. If your a major recruit no way youre picking them with so much skepticism in regards to the penalties being accentuated by every other recruiting staff interested in you.

I have a follow up question. Do they still administer tv bans? Dont think ive heard this one in a while. And as bad as bowl bans are, not being able to play on tv is huge for young kids. Or is that off the table for punishment now?
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Id say no on the TV bans. The networks would have a legitimate argument on breech of contract.
 
woozman

woozman

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If I were an OM fan I'd want the NCAA to get it over with ASAP. The cloud hanging over them now is killing their recruiting (maybe more than any penalties will do). They are currently 13th in the SEC recruiting rankings barely above Vandy....
 
Xenomorph

Xenomorph

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Yep. It's what ultimately killed Jackie. The process, not the penalties. I hope the NCAA wraps everything up in Oxford sometime during the summer of 2018.
 
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MedDawg

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mount lefroy said:
And were expecting the penalties to be harsh, would you think there would be an advantage to getting the penalties now or just after the season was over? Meaning would the team play differently?

Yes, bowl game ban would be a part either way.

Ive always known them to be a "wave the bloody shirt" kind of team and think they might play better as "martyrs".
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OM no doubt is hoping for the penalties to be after signing day 2017 and will delay as long as they can to make that happen.

They were able to delay ANYTHING official being released until after signing day 2016, and that allowed them to lie to recruits and sign several who they otherwise might not have. While their 2017 class looks bad at the moment, if they are able to delay the penalties until after signing day 2017, then they will get a few good recruits that buy into their current lies. Before they were telling recruits (and the country) that it was mostly women's basketball and track, and now that football is known to be heavily involved in the investigation, they'll just tell recruits their minimal self-penalties will be accepted.
 
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thekimmer

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I think its a little late now....

mount lefroy said:
And were expecting the penalties to be harsh, would you think there would be an advantage to getting the penalties now or just after the season was over? Meaning would the team play differently?

Yes, bowl game ban would be a part either way.

Ive always known them to be a "wave the bloody shirt" kind of team and think they might play better as "martyrs".
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Season is well past the halfway point and with 5 losses in the books already I doubt such a proactive self imposed penalty would impress the NCAA at this juncture.
 
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johnson86-1

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MedDawg said:
OM no doubt is hoping for the penalties to be after signing day 2017 and will delay as long as they can to make that happen.

They were able to delay ANYTHING official being released until after signing day 2016, and that allowed them to lie to recruits and sign several who they otherwise might not have. While their 2017 class looks bad at the moment, if they are able to delay the penalties until after signing day 2017, then they will get a few good recruits that buy into their current lies. Before they were telling recruits (and the country) that it was mostly women's basketball and track, and now that football is known to be heavily involved in the investigation, they'll just tell recruits their minimal self-penalties will be accepted.
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If they could get a good class in to follow up on last years, that would be a good way to make the pain bearable during probation. BUt if they can't get a good class, and it seems unlikely they'll be able to, they would be better off taking the scholarship hit now rather than having a weak class this year because of rumors and then starting scholarship htis next year. I'm not sure they have an option for self imposing now though. Typically that woudl have been done in the response to the NOA. Not sure how they do it now. I guess they could say in light of the Tunsil draft night, there going to go ahead and self-impose an additional five scholarships this year in addition to what they already offered.
 
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