If the Playoffs Started Today 1A/2A

[encflatlander]

Hey Everyone! I had some down time and decided to do the 1A and the 2A Playoff Brackets if the season ended today. All of this is based on RPI. I plan on updating this once a week if I have the time. If there is a team that has to be "put in the hat" I will flip them back and forth each week. If you see any errors don't hesitate to point them out. Also, if you hear of any more teams folding their season please put it in this thread so I can stay up to date. Thanks and Enjoy!

1A
East
1- Northside- Pinetown
BYE

8- Southeast Collegiate Prep
9- Washington County

5- Rocky Mount Prep
12- Weldon STEM

4- Columbia
BYE

3- North Edgecombe
BYE

6- North East Carolina Prep
11- Bear Grass Charter

10- Jones
7- KIPP Pride

2- Hobgood Charter
BYE

West
1- Chatham Central
BYE

8- Sallie B. Howard
9- Bonnie Cone Leadership

5- Rosman
12- The College Prep & Leadership

4- South Davidson
BYE

3- Wilson Prep
BYE

6- Robbinsville
11- North Stokes

10- Andrews
7- Winston Salem Prep

2- East Columbus
BYE

2A
East
1- Tarboro
BYE

17- East Carteret
16- West Columbus

8- Bertie
BYE

9- Gates
BYE

5- Southside
BYE

21- ALA- Johnston
12- Union

4- Edenton Holmes
BYE

13- Perquimans
20- Lejeune

3- Warren County
BYE

19- Camden
14- Hobbton

6- North Duplin
BYE

11- Rosewood
22- Triangle Math and Science

7- Lakewood
BYE

10- East Bladen
BYE

2- Manteo
BYE

15- Northwest Halifax Collegiate
18- Pamlico

West
1- Starmount
BYE

16- Bishop McGuiness(Team in the Hat)
17- Langtree Charter

8- Cherryville
BYE

9- East Wilkes
BYE

5- Cherokee
BYE

21- Hayesville
12- Community School of Davidson

4- Christ The King
BYE

13- Elkin
20- South Stanly

3- Alleghany
BYE

19- Swain Co.
14- Albemarle

6- North Rowan
BYE

11- Mitchell
22- Highland Tech

7- Mountain Island Charter
BYE

23- Bradford Prep
10- Murphy

2- Corvian Community
BYE

15- Avery Co.
18- South Stokes

 

[vikandpirate4christ]

awesome, thanks for sharing! Glad that you are going to do this each week. Manteo vs Edenton later in the year will be a good one to keep an eye on. If things stay similar to this, Northside should walk to the title game in December.

 

[Wow71]

West will be tough if they have all those teams in the bracket. Why would the West get Wilson Prep, E Columbus and SB Howard?

 

[ncfootball_17]

West will be tough if they have all those teams in the bracket. Why would the West get Wilson Prep, E Columbus and SB Howard?

Top 48 teams (or less if not enough teams/too many opt outs) make the playoffs and then split between east and west. There is no predetermined side anymore.

While I like that there isn't a predetermined side to make sure that the top teams get in, there needs to be some logic that doesn't force these teams to drive 6+ hours for a game. Maybe have two predetermined lines that say if you fall west of "X" you are west and if you fall east of "Y" you go east and if you are between X and Y, you can go either way. However, this seems to be more of an issue with 1A, so maybe they need to drop the number of teams that make football playoffs for 1A, like they do for 8A.

 

[Wow71]

This takes out a West team as TJCA has cancelled the season.

 

[Owen Stampede]

Can you do 3a and 4a?

 

[80prepster]

Top 48 teams (or less if not enough teams/too many opt outs) make the playoffs and then split between east and west. There is no predetermined side anymore.

While I like that there isn't a predetermined side to make sure that the top teams get in, there needs to be some logic that doesn't force these teams to drive 6+ hours for a game. Maybe have two predetermined lines that say if you fall west of "X" you are west and if you fall east of "Y" you go east and if you are between X and Y, you can go either way. However, this seems to be more of an issue with 1A, so maybe they need to drop the number of teams that make football playoffs for 1A, like they do for 8A.

The pairings from east to west have been crazy and ridiculous in expense for schools over the years. I remember about 2008, South Columbus was I think put in the west bracket, and because they were the higher seeded team, Starmount had to drive all the way to Tabor City to play in the playoffs. That’s a distance over 230 miles shortest route, approximately 4 hours travel time, and practically within 20-25 miles from the nearest beach. That’s insanity the NCHSAA would do that! The only consolation was that the Rams beat the Stallions on their home turf, 17-14.

 

[beamer24]

The pairings from east to west have been crazy and ridiculous in expense for schools over the years. I remember about 2008, South Columbus was I think put in the west bracket, and because they were the higher seeded team, Starmount had to drive all the way to Tabor City to play in the playoffs. That’s a distance over 230 miles shortest route, approximately 4 hours travel time, and practically within 20-25 miles from the nearest beach. That’s insanity the NCHSAA would do that! The only consolation was that the Rams beat the Stallions on their home turf, 17-14.

Whiteville had to go to the mtns 1 year.

 

[radioguy16]

Roughly 10ish years ago North Wilkes had to go to Whiteville lol

Also I remember a few years ago that East Columbus had to come to Alleghany and then had they won the game they would have had to go right back to Murphy. INSANITY

 

[Wow71]

Top 48 teams (or less if not enough teams/too many opt outs) make the playoffs and then split between east and west. There is no predetermined side anymore.

While I like that there isn't a predetermined side to make sure that the top teams get in, there needs to be some logic that doesn't force these teams to drive 6+ hours for a game. Maybe have two predetermined lines that say if you fall west of "X" you are west and if you fall east of "Y" you go east and if you are between X and Y, you can go either way. However, this seems to be more of an issue with 1A, so maybe they need to drop the number of teams that make football playoffs for 1A, like they do for 8A.

1A will only have around 23-24 teams in the playoffs. Most of the high seeds 1-4 will be a first round bye and they only play four rounds instead of five. Anyone know of any 1A teams playing a JV season? In the Greater Triad 1A/2A S Davidson is the only school with a JV team of about 18 kids. Bishop and S Stokes have teams but are 2A. TJCA just cancelled their season and they were a pretty good playoff team last year in 1A. I know the SMC and WHC may have JV but they do it differently from what I hear.

 

[OAR]

Anyone know of any 1A teams playing a JV season? In the Greater Triad 1A/2A S Davidson is the only school with a JV team of about 18 kids. Bishop and S Stokes have teams but are 2A. TJCA just cancelled their season and they were a pretty good playoff team last year in 1A. I know the SMC and WHC may have JV but they do it differently from what I hear.

SMC and a lot of WHC technically have junior High ball for 7-9 graders. Even with that there have been numbers issues at Swain and Andrews this year.

 

[encflatlander]

Can you do 3a and 4a?

Working on it now!

 

[encflatlander]

1A will only have around 23-24 teams in the playoffs. Most of the high seeds 1-4 will be a first round bye and they only play four rounds instead of five. Anyone know of any 1A teams playing a JV season? In the Greater Triad 1A/2A S Davidson is the only school with a JV team of about 18 kids. Bishop and S Stokes have teams but are 2A. TJCA just cancelled their season and they were a pretty good playoff team last year in 1A. I know the SMC and WHC may have JV but they do it differently from what I hear.

Northside has a JV. Beat Rose's freshman team 22-14 last night. Has not played a single 1A school all year.

 

[recycled2]

SMC and a lot of WHC technically have junior High ball for 7-9 graders. Even with that there have been numbers issues at Swain and Andrews this year.

Andrews does not have a JV team . The rest of the conference has fielded a 7-9 team.

 

[vikandpirate4christ]

Northside has a JV. Beat Rose's freshman team 22-14 last night. Has not played a single 1A school all year.

Coach at northside has built a really nice program! I said in another thread, that I don't really care for Tarboro playing 1a schools, but if they were to play one, I wouldn't mind them playing northside.

 

[ncfootball_17]

1A will only have around 23-24 teams in the playoffs. Most of the high seeds 1-4 will be a first round bye and they only play four rounds instead of five. Anyone know of any 1A teams playing a JV season? In the Greater Triad 1A/2A S Davidson is the only school with a JV team of about 18 kids. Bishop and S Stokes have teams but are 2A. TJCA just cancelled their season and they were a pretty good playoff team last year in 1A. I know the SMC and WHC may have JV but they do it differently from what I hear.

I looked up last year and it looks like they had the extra week between the regional finals and the state championship games. When was that decided though because unless I missed something the handbook states that 1A will have (up to) 48 teams placed on a 64-team bracket.

Last year in 1A there were 22 teams that made the playoffs. If you wanted to make it, you were in for 1A. The top 5 teams had byes the first round on each side.

With money being a huge concern, and gas prices going up, I would think that the NCHSAA would still want to put some type of limit on travel, if possible. Based on the NCHSAA handbook, If Robbinsville has to travel to one of these eastern teams (or vise versa) then someone is going to be responsible for the reimbursement of over $800. They will lose money on that game. There's no need for teams to travel 300+ miles just so the east and west can have 11 teams each. It would make more sense to do 10 teams on one side and 12 teams on the other.

Just to clarify, there are a total of 6 playoff "rounds". You have the first four "rounds", regional, then championship game. I think that is way too many with 8 classifications. The state should drop the number to 32 teams and only have five rounds total.

 

[Owen Stampede]

Madison Owen Polk and Hendersonville field regular JV teams. Avery Mitchell and mountain heritage field junior high teams

 

[TheJims]

Roughly 10ish years ago North Wilkes had to go to Whiteville lol

Also I remember a few years ago that East Columbus had to come to Alleghany and then had they won the game they would have had to go right back to Murphy. INSANITY

North Duplin went on the road and upset Cherokee in 06 then had to go to Elkin the following week.

 

[Black knight 87]

I'm still not sold on Wilson prep. being in the west bracket i just don't see it happening

 

[encflatlander]

Week 7 Update 9/28

1A
East
1- Northside- Pinetown
BYE

8- Washington County
9- KIPP Pride

5- Columbia
12- Weldon STEM

4- North Edgecombe
BYE
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3- Rocky Mount Prep
BYE

6- North East Carolina Prep
11- Jones Sr.

10- Bear Grass Charter
7- Southeast Collegiate Prep

2- Hobgood Charter
BYE

West

1- Chatham Central
BYE

8- Sallie B Howard
9- Bonnie Cone Leadership

5- Wilson Prep
12- Andrews

4- Robbinsville
BYE
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3- Rosman
BYE

6- Winston Salem Prep
11- The College Prep and Leadership

10- North Stokes
7- South Davidson

2- East Columbus
BYE

2A
East

1- Warren County
BYE

17- Northwest Halifax Collegiate and Tech
16- Bishop McGuinnes (Team in the Hat)

8- East Bladen
BYE

9- Bertie
BYE

5- Southside
BYE

21- Lejeune
12- Camden

4- Edenton Holmes
BYE

13- Perquimans
20- Pamlico
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3- Manteo
BYE

19- West Columbus
14- Union

6- North Duplin
BYE

11- Gates County
22- Triangle Math & Science

7- Lakewood
BYE

10- Rosewood
23- American Leadership- Johnston

2- Tarboro
BYE

15- Hobbton
18- East Carteret

West

1- Starmount
BYE

17- Swain
16- South Stokes

8- Community School of Davidson
BYE

9- Mountain Island Charter
BYE

5- Cherokee
BYE

21- Highland Tech
12- East Wilkes

4- North Rowan
BYE

13- Langtree Charter
20- Hayesville
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3- Corvian Community
BYE

19- South Stanly
14- Avery

6- Christ the King
BYE

11- Mitchell
22- Bradford Prep

7- Murphy
BYE

10- Cherryville
BYE

2- Alleghany
BYE

15- Albemarle
18- Elkin

 

[TarVikes1]

Why isn’t Northampton county listed in the 2A rpi any more? They have been missing the last couple weeks and that would probably push bishop back to the west

 

[encflatlander]

Why isn’t Northampton county listed in the 2A rpi any more? They have been missing the last couple weeks and that would probably push bishop back to the west

That’s a good catch. I didn’t even notice they weren’t up there anymore. But yes that would definitely push Bishop west and leave no team to be “put in the hat”. Maybe they folded their team? Not sure

 

[TarVikes1]

That’s a good catch. I didn’t even notice they weren’t up there anymore. But yes that would definitely push Bishop west and leave no team to be “put in the hat”. Maybe they folded their team? Not sure

No they are still playing. They weren’t listed a few weeks ago when Tarboro played against them.

 

[vikandpirate4christ]

No they are still playing. They weren’t listed a few weeks ago when Tarboro played against them.

I wonder if it could be due to their name change? You know now they are called northampton collegiate and technical. If you look on maxpreps and try to select previous seasons, it will not let you.

 

[vikandpirate4christ]

I expect Warren County to drop. In their conference, they have two teams who haven't won a game yet, two teams that have only won one, and the last has only won 2 games.

 

[encflatlander]

I expect Warren County to drop. In their conference, they have two teams who haven't won a game yet, two teams that have only won one, and the last has only won 2 games.

Just imagine if Tarboro was still in that conference... sheesh

 

[vikandpirate4christ]

Just imagine if Tarboro was still in that conference... sheesh

haha, no thank you! Very thankful that we are in the conference that we are in now.

 

[encflatlander]

I have Northampton with an RPI of .3292 which would put them 38th overall in 2A. Just ahead of Pamlico County in the East.

 

[ncfootball_17]

Seems like they have two pages on MaxPreps. One that shows the past years, even though they updated the name on the page. However, it doesn't show anything for the current season. Then they have a new page with this years records. Based on not seeing them on the NCHSAA RPI page, it would seem that NCHSAA is using the old page for their data.

Here is the old one. - https://www.maxpreps.com/nc/gaston/northampton-county-jaguars/football/schedule/

Here is the new one - https://www.maxpreps.com/nc/gaston/northampton-collegiate-and-technical-jaguars/football/schedule/

 

[Tarboroviking18]

Just imagine if Tarboro was still in that conference... sheesh

It's funny because some Warren county fans believe they'd be undefeated playing Tarboro schedule including their conference schedule. I personally think that's a reach but admire the confidence

 

[vikandpirate4christ]

It's funny because some Warren county fans believe they'd be undefeated playing Tarboro schedule including their conference schedule. I personally think that's a reach but admire the confidence

They may end up beating us this year, but this just shows they haven't won very much. One good season, and now they think they can beat the likes of Hunt, and Havelock.

 

[vikandpirate4christ]

Seems like they have two pages on MaxPreps. One that shows the past years, even though they updated the name on the page. However, it doesn't show anything for the current season. Then they have a new page with this years records. Based on not seeing them on the NCHSAA RPI page, it would seem that NCHSAA is using the old page for their data.

Here is the old one. - https://www.maxpreps.com/nc/gaston/northampton-county-jaguars/football/schedule/

Here is the new one - https://www.maxpreps.com/nc/gaston/northampton-collegiate-and-technical-jaguars/football/schedule/

Yea, I'm sure that's the issue.

 

[Wow71]

There are a few teams that have came out of the gate with higher records that may lose a few games the last five weeks or so and still may be a higher seed than the teams that beat them. H2H should still count in playoff seeding IMO. In 1A, some of those teams are going to move up or down but the percentages are not going to move that much for RPI.

On the 1A side, WS Prep got a big win over 2A Bishop which opened up the 1A/2A Greater Triad race again for several teams. They are a tough 2-4 team with some really good players.

 

[WCEagle]

They may end up beating us this year, but this just shows they haven't won very much. One good season, and now they think they can beat the likes of Hunt, and Havelock.

They may end up beating us this year, but this just shows they haven't won very much. One good season, and now they think they can beat the likes of Hunt, and Havelock.

Actually this is the third season Warren County has been very good. The difference this year is that the class with the majority of the special players is now the senior class. Thats why I think its this year or bust for us as far as making a run at a title. We will still be good next year because the progam has been established and the culture is strong. But when your best players are younger vs older it makes a difference. Tarboro losing so much and not really missing a beat is very impressive. Time will tell if we can sustain that type of excellence every year.

 

[WCEagle]

I expect Warren County to drop. In their conference, they have two teams who haven't won a game yet, two teams that have only won one, and the last has only won 2 games.

Yes our conference does suck. Im disappointed because last year Kipp was 9-0 and we were 8-1 when we played and it was a helluva game and we came up short at their place. I was looking forward to another battle but evidently they lost too much. I love good competition but I dont see right now where we are going to get it prior to the playoffs. But you never know. Thats why they play the games. lol.