If someone had Covid 19 months ago

[thatsbaseball]

and got well. Is there a way to know they had it ? I searched briefly and couldn't find a straight answer.

 

[Nunya.sixpack]

No survivors.

Must buy more TP.

 

[Raiderdawg.sixpack]

If it’s developed, you would be able to use a serological based test to determine if you have memory B cells in your blood, indicating a past exposure. They wouldn’t be able to tell you when it happened, just you were exposed to the virus and your body mounted an immune response.

For example, at some point prior to my current job, my blood work indicated I had Q Fever at some point or was at least exposed to the bacterium that causes Q Fever.

The odds of this being in humans 19 months ago is really low based on the data.

 

[msstate7]

If it’s developed, you would be able to use a serological based test to determine if you have memory B cells in your blood, indicating a past exposure. They wouldn’t be able to tell you when it happened, just you were exposed to the virus and your body mounted an immune response.

For example, at some point prior to my current job, my blood work indicated I had Q Fever at some point or was at least exposed to the bacterium that causes Q Fever.

The odds of this being in humans 19 months ago is really low based on the data.

What about hitting here from November - February?

 

[thatsbaseball]

Sorry i was just calling Coronavirus, Covid 19. I didn't mean 19 months ago.

 

[thatsbaseball]

This is what I meant.

 

[My Bru]

Fever, cough, shortness of breath are 3 solid symptoms, per pretty much all sources.

 

[Raiderdawg.sixpack]

What about hitting here from November - February?

It’s possible and almost likely a few people were here infected with this virus in December or January, and just thought they had the flu/cold.

 

[thatsbaseball]

But aren't those also symptoms of other respiratory viruses also ?

 

[Walter White.sixpack]

I've seen many speculate because they or their family member had something very similar to these symptoms but tested negative for flu in previous months.

 

[Bullldawg78]

I am an ER physician and the other staff and I were just having this conversation last night. We had a lot of patients with what appeared to be severe flu symptoms in late fall/early winter last year into this but they were testing negative for flu. Just anecdotal but interesting. Also as I stated in previous post all coronovirus is not COVID19. But overall I think the stuff earlier this year was more likely another virus, possibly one of the 4 typical Coronavirus, but not likely COVID19.

 

[ClintonInHelen]

I’d hit it...

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

Yes, you'd want to have two different tests though to definitively rule out any previous infectious. One test that tests for the virus itself (normally referred to as PCR where the genome of the virus itself is detected) and one that tests for the antibodies to the virus. Usually IgM antibodies have a long enough life span to where they are detectable 2-4 months after an infection. But detecting IgM antibodies to CoV-19 is likely only being performed by the CDC and probably a handful of R&D labs as an investigational tool. Getting access to something like that would be a long shot.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Thank you. I'll probably get a couple of "tin hats" for this but I just believe it's been around longer than we think. Not years longer but maybe a couple on months and there are a number of people who have unknowingly had this and recovered.

 

[Raiderdawg.sixpack]

Yes, you'd want to have two different tests though to definitively rule out any previous infectious. One test that tests for the virus itself (normally referred to as PCR where the genome of the virus itself is detected) and one that tests for the antibodies to the virus. Usually IgM antibodies have a long enough life span to where they are detectable 2-4 months after an infection. But detecting IgM antibodies to CoV-19 is likely only being performed by the CDC and probably a handful of R&D labs as an investigational tool. Getting access to something like that would be a long shot.

You sound like a fellow micro/immunology nerd. I think you’re right-the antigen and antibodies are commercially available now to make the ELISA, but I have only seen a few companies going this route for diagnostics.

My guess is long-term the ELISA might be available if someone has reduced lung capacity in the future and the physician is trying to determine if it was caused by SARS-Cov2 or some other issue is going on. But that would be added to a panel way down the road.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Thank you also

 

[paindonthurt_]

Some officials are speculating that it was actually in the US before 2020 due to it actually being in China in November 2019 and no real travel restrictions.

IF that is accurate, it’s a good thing.

It means it’s either not as infectious as thought or not nearly as lethal as 3.8% as thought.

 

[J-Dawg]

Some officials are speculating that it was actually in the US before 2020 due to it actually being in China in November 2019 and no real travel restrictions.

IF that is accurate, it’s a good thing.

It means it’s either not as infectious as thought or not nearly as lethal as 3.8% as thought.

I find it hard to believe we just so happened to be paying attention right at the moment the first case jumped over here.

Kinda how we happened to find the first dead deer from CWD on the side of the road to a hunting camp.**

If you test for something, you’ll start to find it. Mississippi had a huge uptick in tests ran the same day we had our largest uptick in confirmed cases. probably wasn’t due entirely to a quick spread as much as the increased magnifying glass.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I just think it would be really helpful to know who has had this crap and WHEN they had it, but that could possibly put a lot of egg on a lot of faces so there probably won't be a big effort put into it.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

There’s a family at our church that I firmly believe had it in December. Exact symptoms And were negative for the flu.