"If it's your son..."

ruppcat

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Hey that's not what he said. I hate when people turn **** for their agenda. Reminds me of liberal college kids. He said no matter what he loves this program and wants to win. He mentioned in these times these young men's stability is a concern. He also said multiple times he said it wrong. Cal came out and said what he needed to say. This is confusing times. He is dealing with young men at their mental state at this time. Cal is as confused as most. He has 15 young men and their families looking to him for answers. I couldn't imagine. Cal loves this program. That's all I needed to know. I believe that. Mistakes made ? Ya. Cal knows that. Let's help instead of destroying this program with
Dealing with young mean at their mental state at this time. Cry me a river.

They are not in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc being shot at.

They are not sleeping in the dirt.

They are not eating MREs.

They are coddled athleltes playing a game....and not very well at this point.

They are getting as much to eat as they want.

They have access to the best medical treatment possible.

Their classes are paid for....which many in US would love to have.
 

sam_o

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The sad thing is, BJ is learning that he doesn't have to live up to the same standard that Cal has for other players. Conversely, Allen is learning that busting your *** and being a better player doesn't matter, only how many stars you had by your name coming out of high school matters. Since when did earning what you get become such a hated philosophy?
I have no idea but that seems to be how it is these days. I would prefer he treat my son like a man and make him earn it but that kind of thinking is shunned these days
 

IFerg1969

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Dealing with young mean at their mental state at this time. Cry me a river.

They are not in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc being shot at.

They are not sleeping in the dirt.

They are not eating MREs.

They are coddled athleltes playing a game....and not very well at this point.

They are getting as much to eat as they want.

They have access to the best medical treatment possible.

Their classes are paid for....which many in US would love to have.
But to many of today's OADs, they don't care about the free education. They are only there for the basketball so they can get to the league. An education they don't care about is worthless to them. Wendell Carter's (Duke) mom basically said the kids were like slaves because they were playing for free. I guess she forgot that a college education is extremely expensive nowadays. Or maybe it's that she and her son just didn't value that free education. I think that's the more likely scenario.
 

*CatinIL*

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Cal is confused as most? I don’t know how to respond to this lol. But yeah, true statement and then some. Donkeys are as confused as cows when a coyote waltzes through the herd of newborn calves and chases a possum. Head scratcher.
That's comic gold! [laughing]
 

ruppcat

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But to many of today's OADs, they don't care about the free education. They are only there for the basketball so they can get to the league. An education they don't care about is worthless to them. Wendell Carter's (Duke) mom basically said the kids were like slaves because they were playing for free. I guess she forgot that a college education is extremely expensive nowadays. Or maybe it's that she and her son just didn't value that free education. I think that's the more likely scenario.
Just another talking point of the Left.

Everything is slavery.

Pretty soon even the money in the nba will be slave wages.
 
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Can Cal just shut his mouth because everytime he opens it he says something else that makes you scratch your head. He just keeps digging that hole deeper and deeper!
 

TortElvisII

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Yeah I think over the years when he references this type of stuff I've always wondered why someone's experience during their time in college or working toward their dreams would be any different just because of the projected draft status. The experience generally means the same to those kids regardless of what their future holds.

It may be that he has promised things to some that he didn't to others.
 
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Bratkartoffeln

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Hey that's not what he said. I hate when people turn **** for their agenda. Reminds me of liberal college kids. He said no matter what he loves this program and wants to win. He mentioned in these times these young men's stability is a concern. He also said multiple times he said it wrong. Cal came out and said what he needed to say. This is confusing times. He is dealing with young men at their mental state at this time. Cal is as confused as most. He has 15 young men and their families looking to him for answers. I couldn't imagine. Cal loves this program. That's all I needed to know. I believe that. Mistakes made ? Ya. Cal knows that. Let's help instesad of destroying this program with
That is what he said, that if it's your son, how would you want me to coach them and treat them.

That aside, I'm still very much in Coach Cal's court. I am not a great fan of the "send 'em early" philosophy, especially now that we see how it can at times be a "house of cards." I hope he stays a long time, and certainly hope he gets this bunch of "Bad News Bears" playing a lot better right away.

The talent is there! But, he cannot be everything to these kids--he cannot be a surrogate father, not a reverend, not a psychiatrist, and not really their good friend who might offer a safe space for these kids any time they feel bad about the world and want to retreat. Kentucky Basketball is not for kids who want to curl up occasionally into the fetal position.

He has to coach them solely in basketball. If he wants them to be tougher, he needs to be tougher on them. He is a basketball coach that must teach and then demand to see fundamentals performed at an exquisitely high rate of success and effectiveness. He's not pressing the right buttons, and maybe is just a lot worse of a coach during pandemics than he is when 20,000 can cheer them on in Rupp. His effort is diluted by the "clutter," to use his words. They need top sharpen their focus right now or this season is over.
 
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Soupbean

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The five best productive and most intense players I see are Ware, Toppin, Allen, Mintz and Askew. Those five seem to go the hardest all the time and is the reason they make little things happen that is not in the box score. Maybe a couple of the other guys would be more motivated to play that hard all the time if they didn't start because if they did see they had to play that hard to start their production on the little things would be better.
Agree but I'd throw Ware in there as a sixth one
 

Cats_2010

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Aren’t all of the players someone’s son? What the hell is cal even trying to sell here. He needs to just STFU and do what he’s hired to do and coach the game of college basketball, college, not the NBA. If he can’t do that he needs to kick rocks
 

Soupbean

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It may be that he has promised things to some that he didn't to others.
That may be part of it but the other part is I think Cal feels a personal obligation to the ranked guys because there is an expectation on their part of Cal making their "dreams" come true. Meanwhile Doesn't see the other guys as having those expectations & I think he feels like they are kind of okay waiting their turn. This is especially true of the homegrown talent who Cal thinks are just happy to be there.

Not trying to excuse Cal, its still BS but Cal believes & thats why he seems somewhat oblivious to the hypocrisy in his comments.
 

CB3UK

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Here's why it DOES matter who starts games...

The guys who start have the largest chance of any player to play the MOST during the game. You should want the players who give you the best chance to win playing the most minutes overall.

Further, if you START the players that give you the best chance to win, your team has a better chance to start off doing well from the beginning so you can dictate the pace, make the other team play from behind, etc. (The team with the lead at any given time in a game is statistically most likely to win something like 74% of the time).

To say, "what matters most is who is playing at the end" is coming from the false premise that the two options are mutually exclusive. It is VERY doable to have the players who start ALSO be the ones playing at the end!!!
His comments tonight that who starts doesn't really matter anyway, it's all just about ego, was a steaming pile of bull.

Its ego, because it makes the statement that those players who start are your best guys. They take pride in that, as they should. And until Billy Clyde came along, I was 100% certain it was foolproof logic that you start your best guys. I guess Cal believes in moneyballl analytics, and now we're using openers on the mound so to speak, and THEN we bring in the starting pitcher.

Toppins comments about players playing me ball says it all. Not a chance the team isn't ticked about Cal refusing to cut back BJs playing time.

The kid is trying but Cal is doing him a disservice by not teaching him the hard lesson now and benching him. Maybe the light bulb will go off but he needs to earn that PT from here on. Hell, we're past that point
 
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LadyCaytIL

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I'm sure Mrs Boston loves that you f***** up her son Cal by putting together beyond sh*tty offense... not having any shooting coaches on staff and putting together a squad of abysmal offensive talent. all because someone was so beyond arrogant and stupid that he thought he could always do just good enough to get by without shooting.
 
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Catman100

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Here's why it DOES matter who starts games...

The guys who start have the largest chance of any player to play the MOST during the game. You should want the players who give you the best chance to win playing the most minutes overall.

Further, if you START the players that give you the best chance to win, your team has a better chance to start off doing well from the beginning so you can dictate the pace, make the other team play from behind, etc. (The team with the lead at any given time in a game is statistically most likely to win something like 74% of the time).

To say, "what matters most is who is playing at the end" is coming from the false premise that the two options are mutually exclusive. It is VERY doable to have the players who start ALSO be the ones playing at the end!!!

I don't know about you guys, but I prefer that human victory cigars are playing at the end. That used to be an option a long time ago.
 

STL_Cat

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I don't know about you guys, but I prefer that human victory cigars are playing at the end. That used to be an option a long time ago.


You could bet your *** it was a good night when you saw good old Todd Svoboda going over to the scorer’s table to check in.