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cathouse_rivals216755

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Put that Phoenix side out of bounds play in our playbook with Toppin on the receiving end of the lob, he should be fired for incompetence.

Toppin can soar with the eagles and has the hands to make that play without being called for goaltending........even though most NCAA refs would call it anyway.

Just gotta figure out who can make that perfect pass and that play is golden, Jerry.
Golden I tell you.
 
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Suns did this a couple years back... IIRC is was more in front court, and it looked like he was shooting at the basket
I was amazed no one else every picked up on it... or has even tried it again, until now.
You really need to save it, for that one time... if the defense is ready, it's not that hard to defend. Plant tall guy in passing line to rim and "goal tend"
Fire all them coaches...
 
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cathouse said:
Put that Phoenix side out of bounds play in our playbook with Toppin on the receiving end of the lob, he should be fired for incompetence.

Toppin can soar with the eagles and has the hands to make that play without being called for goaltending........even though most NCAA refs would call it anyway.

Just gotta figure out who can make that perfect pass and that play is golden, Jerry.
Golden I tell you.
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The former jailer here in town used to always say, “how you gonna soar with the eagles, when you’re flying with turkeys, bub?!” 🤣 Sorry, your wording made me think of that.

On topic, we do need some good OOB plays. Something other than just tossing it into a big. Would love to get easy buckets off some OOB plays this year. We rarely do seems like.
 
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Not sure why so many think this could even possibly be a goaltending. You can't shoot it from out of bounds so how can it be goaltending if its not a shot?
 
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cathouse said:
Put that Phoenix side out of bounds play in our playbook with Toppin on the receiving end of the lob, he should be fired for incompetence.

Toppin can soar with the eagles and has the hands to make that play without being called for goaltending........even though most NCAA refs would call it anyway.

Just gotta figure out who can make that perfect pass and that play is golden, Jerry.
Golden I tell you.
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topcatNtophat said:
Not sure why so many think this could even possibly be a goaltending. You can't shoot it from out of bounds so how can it be goaltending if its not a shot?
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because they've seen bad lob passes (while in play) over the rim be called goaltending
 
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St.PatterSoN-54-

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Blueaz said:
because they've seen bad lob passes (while in play) over the rim be called goaltending
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topcatNtophat said:
Not sure why so many think this could even possibly be a goaltending. You can't shoot it from out of bounds so how can it be goaltending if its not a shot?
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I see your point, but take it one step further and it becomes even more cloudy.

Say the player passing in bounds throws a ball that hits the rim, bounces around a few times, and is sitting on the rim. By your reasoning, an offensive player should be able to dunk it home off the rim, right? I guess I agree, but it would look weird as hell.
 
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Dude everyone runs that but u use 2 guys so the second one actually receives cause the overplayed defender. If u watch after Booker set that screen he would be the second option after he cleared.
 
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St.PatterSoN-54- said:
I see your point, but take it one step further and it becomes even more cloudy.

Say the player passing in bounds throws a ball that hits the rim, bounces around a few times, and is sitting on the rim. By your reasoning, an offensive player should be able to dunk it home off the rim, right? I guess I agree, but it would look weird as hell.
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yes if it bounces off the rim or even sitting on the rim it is not considered goaltending on an out of bounds pass. And vise versa a defensive player can swat it off the rim or even in the air right above the goal.
 
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St.PatterSoN-54-

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topcatNtophat said:
yes if it bounces off the rim or even sitting on the rim it is not considered goaltending on an out of bounds pass. And vise versa a defensive player can swat it off the rim or even in the air right above the goal.
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Interesting. I bet it'd get called. Especially in the last few seconds of a crucial game. Against us.
 
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Cowtown Cat said:
The former jailer here in town used to always say, “how you gonna soar with the eagles, when you’re flying with turkeys, bub?!” 🤣 Sorry, your wording made me think of that.

On topic, we do need some good OOB plays. Something other than just tossing it into a big. Would love to get easy buckets off some OOB plays this year. We rarely do seems like.
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We could just copy all the out of bounds plays that worked against us.
 
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From what I read, on an inbound pass, it doesn't matter if the ball is directly above the rim when it's touched. Since it's a dead ball until it's first touched by a player you can't have basket interference.
 
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KyFaninNC said:
When? Link?
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3rd post above. It's not exactly the same, but pretty damn close.

You can argue that the above was more of a smart play by the in bounder, than it is specifically what Cal designed.. but we'll never really know.

Still.. Toppin isn't Ayton.. none of our players will execute to that level, at least not likely.
 
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loublue22 said:
Everybody runs lob out of bounds plays. Phoenix fouled on that play and it wasn't called.
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wow, it was not a lob OOB play and there was a lot worse not called (Booker admitted he may have fouled)
 
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It was a baseline OOB situation and the play was a lob to Alton, not sure what's unclear there. I'm not mad the foul wasn't called, my point was that a lob OOB is not that hard to draw up, im sure we have one, and the players on the floor made it work.
 
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St.PatterSoN-54- said:
Interesting. I bet it'd get called. Especially in the last few seconds of a crucial game. Against us.
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no way! that would be like calling a T for celebrating a great play by accidentally bouncing the ball too hard, and causing the loss of a game, tourney and dropping 1 or 2 seeds...

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
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loublue22 said:
It was a baseline OOB situation and the play was a lob to Alton, not sure what's unclear there. I'm not mad the foul wasn't called, my point was that a lob OOB is not that hard to draw up, im sure we have one, and the players on the floor made it work.
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whatever, die on that hill...
 
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St.PatterSoN-54-

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Blueaz said:
no way! that would be like calling a T for celebrating a great play by accidentally bouncing the ball too hard, and causing the lose of a game, tourney and dropping 1 or 2 seeds...

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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yeah, that sh*t would never happen. Unless the refs need to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.....
 
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Now why would Cal do that when for the past 30 years all he's done is roll the ball out there with the cream of the crop every season.
 
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St.PatterSoN-54- said:
I see your point, but take it one step further and it becomes even more cloudy.

Say the player passing in bounds throws a ball that hits the rim, bounces around a few times, and is sitting on the rim. By your reasoning, an offensive player should be able to dunk it home off the rim, right? I guess I agree, but it would look weird as hell.
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Yes but since it isn't a shot the D can knock it away at anytime. If it's on the way down and a normal goaltend, the D can still knock it away. It's not counted as a shot
 
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