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RUBABY15

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I know this is all hypothetical and theres been plenty of threads about Schiano coming back, but who would everyone ideally want to have if Ash were to be canned?

I was thinking Jim Leonhard, younger guy with a good pedigree coming from wisconsin. Know it smells like ash all over again but Leonhard seems to be more fiery.
 
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RUBABY15 said:
I know this is all hypothetical and theres been plenty of threads about Schiano coming back, but who would everyone ideally want to have if Ash were to be canned?

I was thinking Jim Leonhard, younger guy with a good pedigree coming from wisconsin. Know it smells like ash all over again but Leonhard seems to be more fiery.
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Schiano would always be my first choice.

Proven, winning Head Coach and more importantly he did it here once, he can do it again. Knows Jersey. Everyone knows him. Can recruit both Jersey and Florida.

Plus, I believe he is a much better coach now than when he was here the first time. He has learned a lot in the last 6 years.

Just like the Kansas State Coach, Snyder.
He will be successful here again.
 
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NickRU714

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ru1869 said:
Schiano would always be my first choice.

Proven, winning Head Coach and more importantly he did it here once, he can do it again. Knows Jersey. Everyone knows him. Can recruit both Jersey and Florida.

Plus, I believe he is a much better coach now than when he was here the first time. He has learned a lot in the last 6 years.

Just like the Kansas State Coach, Snyder.
He will be successful here again.
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There is also the possiblity of UConn and Edsell so.....
Edsell at least made a BCS game the first time around (technically I guess - didnt like 6 teams tie for the conference that year?)
 
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There is also the possiblity of UConn and Edsell so.....
Edsell at least made a BCS game the first time around (technically I guess - didnt like 6 teams tie for the conference that year?)
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Schiano would have brand new practice fields, locker room, weight room a $50 million payout a year. Compare that to what he had in the Big East it's lightyears. Edsell's Uconn team has been downgraded since he's been there. Connecticut isn't exactly busting out the seems with football talent. They're different situations.
 
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RUBABY15 said:
I know this is all hypothetical and theres been plenty of threads about Schiano coming back, but who would everyone ideally want to have if Ash were to be canned?

I was thinking Jim Leonhard, younger guy with a good pedigree coming from wisconsin. Know it smells like ash all over again but Leonhard seems to be more fiery.
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need a proven HC who can recruit. Somehow they need to start over. There is no way in today's college football a team can routinely get blown out and struggle to get to 10 pts, or get through a game where we have less completions than INT's....its like Ash is "coaching" to be fired.

I'd like to think Hobbs can get it right and not listen to "recommendations" again. Swallow your pride if Schiano is the only one willing to sniff this job (big if). Find a coach who can coach up guys...offensive minded wouldnt hurt.
 
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Schiano would give RU the buzz it needs.

Any other potential Head Coaches that would be a bigger buzz would probably not realistically be available. Hopefully, Schaino has learned from Meyer how important offense is.

If not schiano, an offensive minded coach.
How about Paul Johnson from Georgia Tech?

Bring the option to RU
 
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Matt Rhule! Did a great job at Temple. Doing well at Baylor.Great recruiter(beat out RU on several candidates).. Probably ready to leave Baylor with more sanctions coming.
 
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The question that really is out there is wood Hobbs make a real run at GS or would he seek more of a compliant coach that he could control, like Ash.To me that’s the question that I dont think is all that clear.

Brown may be the tipping point as Hobbs seemed intent on creating a post GS Rutgers oreviously.
 
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NickRU714

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Not a fan.

Got run out of Maryland.
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Sorry. I wasn't suggesting Edsall - god no!

To proving additional data point of a successful HC going back - like Schiano.

Edsall has gone back and it doesn't appear to be working out.
 
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RUBABY15 said:
I know this is all hypothetical and theres been plenty of threads about Schiano coming back, but who would everyone ideally want to have if Ash were to be canned?

I was thinking Jim Leonhard, younger guy with a good pedigree coming from wisconsin. Know it smells like ash all over again but Leonhard seems to be more fiery.
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We need an offensive coach.
 
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RUdude

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Its about stability..in order of likelyhood

1) Schiano on a escalating 6 year contract with low intial base pay that will help with the Ash payout..
2)Kyle Whittingham
3)Lance Leopold
4)Charlie Strong
5) Pat Narduzzi..
 
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rutgersguy1_rivals

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Joe Moorhead and his whole staff at Mississippi State, which includes Tem Lukabu who assisted Greg Schiano. Do not consider a candidate coach unless he is offensive-minded and can recruit areas way beyond NJ.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Moorhead
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Not likely realistic unless he has a real hankering to come back to the northeast and even then it might not be depending on what his buyout to get of the contract might be. Also if Miss. State really wants him they did pay Mullen over 4M/yr so they're capable of going higher than us likely especially with us having to pay off Ash and staff if by some crazy chance that happened.

He was my top choice of the potentials in last year's crop but we'll see how he does. He inherited a nicely stocked cupboard from Mullen too.
 
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rutgersguy1_rivals

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RUBABY15 said:
I know this is all hypothetical and theres been plenty of threads about Schiano coming back, but who would everyone ideally want to have if Ash were to be canned?

I was thinking Jim Leonhard, younger guy with a good pedigree coming from wisconsin. Know it smells like ash all over again but Leonhard seems to be more fiery.
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I've mentioned him as maybe a nice DC to pair with an offensive HC but that would only have a chance to be possible if we had a 1M plus budget. He makes like 700K at Wisconsin now and he's an alum and from the state too so probably would be hard to pull him out. As HC I wouldn't want him because worried he'd stick too closely to Paul Chryst's kind of offense which I don't think is suited for us.

Similar in profile to him though I've mentioed Wes Welker as possibly a WR coach for a possible offensive HC, especially if from the Leach tree because Welker played under Leach as well. Same hardnosed undersized NFL player who had a nice career and coaching quality control in Houston now. If he wants to advance in his career maybe like Leonhard he'd try college. I think his background could make him a good WR coach and under a Leach tree HC maybe in the future similar to Graham Harell he could be an OC too down the line...thinking ahead toward continuity, hiring from within staff etc...just like you saw with Stoops for some of his OC hires.
 
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I want Schiano back ! he is still the perfect fit and would have more tools than when he left. Recruiting would pick back up rapidly, marketing and promotion would step up..... just not sure if Hobbs has it in him to admit he was wrong in not pursuing him first, or at the very least, let Greg run the program without interference from Hobbs.... strong egos..
 
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Leipold. Obviously his offense scores points, but he's also very strong on Xs and Os. You don't win big in DIII without that.

But I don't know enough about his personality. I always will say that what Rutgers needs now is a football evangelist, someone who can take over a room whether it's a recruit's living room, a meeting of an out-of-state Rutgers club or the Board of Governors. We need somebody who kids (and their parents) willl say, "Wow. You've GOT to want to play for a guy like that."
 
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Jimpeg said:
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so a guy in his first year would leave to come to RU?...nonsensical
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Competing against Alabama and LSU and Auburn is a no-win job. Moorhead is a guy from the northeast with Midwest & Pennsylvania & northeast connections. As a Pittsburgh guy, he would make an interesting foil to Penn State. He might be able to recruit and land significant Pennsylvania talent (Penn State background) as well as Ohio talent (background includes Akron) in a way that we have never seen here. And he knows offense.
 
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Why do people think Schiano can just come back and win again. His offensive style is way more outdated now than it was then, and he doesn’t have a bad Big East to pad his wins to sell to recruits. 7 years is an eternity to not be a head coach then just “pick up where he left off”

Would he be better, yes, that’s not hard. Is he the best option, I sure hope not
 
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fsg2_rivals

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Jimpeg said:
Its about stability..in order of likelyhood

1) Schiano on a escalating 6 year contract with low intial base pay that will help with the Ash payout..
2)Kyle Whittingham
3)Lance Leopold
4)Charlie Strong
5) Pat Narduzzi..
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You dismiss someone else, then name a guy who makes $3.8 million coaching a team that's far surpassed RU in the PAC as your #2 choice?

C'mon man.
 
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NickRU714 said:
There is also the possiblity of UConn and Edsell so.....
Edsell at least made a BCS game the first time around (technically I guess - didnt like 6 teams tie for the conference that year?)
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He’s a good coach who overachieved. Wouldn’t be my first choice. Want Schiano but Edsel might be a decent cheap stop gap until B1G money arrived. Certainly better than what we have. Could live with it. Got a raw deal at Maryland. Golden too. Hell I would sign up Wanny. Guys we could get cheap but at least have some winning experience.
 
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RUwoz said:
Why do people think Schiano can just come back and win again. His offensive style is way more outdated now than it was then, and he doesn’t have a bad Big East to pad his wins to sell to recruits. 7 years is an eternity to not be a head coach then just “pick up where he left off”

Would he be better, yes, that’s not hard. Is he the best option, I sure hope not
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I’ll throw a question back at you — why do you think Schiano’s offensive style hasn’t changed?
 
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