He got permission from diddy now.
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1285299379746811915?s=21
ICU beds
- Thread starter L4Dawg
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1285299379746811915?s=21
hah...yeah. Exactly the point I made in a post in another thread..too late now.
it must be real damn scary for him to finally do this.
Trump and Reeves totally reactionary to this..
Here’s the ICU bed numbers for Mississippi in this daily report from the Department of Health
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/9827.pdf
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/9827.pdf
Kotter tomorrow:
"Masks are 99.96% effective."
We are United in our effort to defeat the Invisible China Virus, and many people say that it is Patriotic to wear a face mask when you cant socially distance. There is nobody more Patriotic than me, your favorite President! pic.twitter.com/iQOd1whktN— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 20, 2020
"Masks are 99.96% effective."
We are United in our effort to defeat the Invisible China Virus, and many people say that it is Patriotic to wear a face mask when you cant socially distance. There is nobody more Patriotic than me, your favorite President! pic.twitter.com/iQOd1whktN— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 20, 2020
You ever notice after a tornado or hurricane hits an area there are electrical trucks and crews that come from all over to get those people's power back on? Also I thought NY had a boat and the Javits Center converted to a hospital (that I believe they never used) during their heightened Covid situation. We are not allowed to do that here? I know they had a bunch of respirators they never used.
But but....its so highly contagious how could everyone not get it ?? I guess I should say its .04 of total US citizens. How come everybody at walmart isn't dead by now ? The homeless should all be dead by now too
Furloughed nurses were mainly clinic or outpatient procedure area nurses. They're not gonna work at the bedside and probably couldn't function there at this point anyway.
Look, the states with the strictest lockdowns and mandatory masks early on, such as NY NJ PA MA IL MI and CA, still have the highest cases and deaths. The masks do not stop the spread like people think. It’s a false sense of security and as hard as it is to understand people are going to catch it and die. Much has been proven that all the numbers are off from positive tests And actual deaths FROM COVID. That’s not to say Covid is not deadly.
Just watch NY NJ and the others cases and deaths start spiking as the reopen even with masks. People expect this to just stop spreading by social distancing and masks. OK then let’s open everything back up, sports, schools, concerts, you name it, and if the masks and all really work then we should be fine, right?! If that’s not the case then let’s all stay in our houses until a proven vaccine comes.
Just watch NY NJ and the others cases and deaths start spiking as the reopen even with masks. People expect this to just stop spreading by social distancing and masks. OK then let’s open everything back up, sports, schools, concerts, you name it, and if the masks and all really work then we should be fine, right?! If that’s not the case then let’s all stay in our houses until a proven vaccine comes.
Ok. So, what are our options? Let’s shut everything down and force business and the national economy over a cliff OR ask the collective society to act responsibly and look out for their own individual welfare as they see fit while not sacrificing the negative impact on hundreds of million Americans....hummmm....all these choices....
Talked to someone about that today. They took it down because it wasn't needed at the time but the problem with that is that the decisions seem to be made while we were on lockdown and not waiting to further out once we got back and going and people were fully interacting. was also told they are still doing stuff outside of the hospital just not in those units that you set up and took down. Said they need to open up it up again or have an acf set up to allow more of a backup plan for patients to free up some space now that they are at capacity.
Typical that decisions are made based on numbers during lockdown. It was set up to prep for scenario we have now but apparently someone thought it wasn't going to get worse or that or they didn't think the units set up would be useful for the needs.
Typical that decisions are made based on numbers during lockdown. It was set up to prep for scenario we have now but apparently someone thought it wasn't going to get worse or that or they didn't think the units set up would be useful for the needs.
I've had a number of people complain they can understand or hear people talk with the masks on. I just tell them oh well. But it does blow my mind seeing that too
You don't understand the point. Those "don't take my rights" people are not the ones spreading the virus. They aren't having the huge get togethers. The people you are mad at are not the ones responsible.
The problems are the kids and poors. They don't give a 17 and never will.
Perhaps the "don't take my rights" group should have a modicum of intelligence to understand that Trump and Pence get tested just about every day and pretty much operate inside a bubble. They don't need to wear masks.
The acs were taken down Friday a week and a half ago. The power is still there running the testing center. It was already into the surge at that time and they were already on the news talking about it.
Personally I understand not wanting to put patients and healthcare professionals in that facility as it was designed and set up. 30 tons of normal AC recirculating air in a confined space. Prob 10ish times as bad as an average house because of the amount of air that has to be moved to effectively cool a tent. We’ve got the ability to overcome that and go positive pressure on those tents, could probably even put vent fans and pull air out of the top basically creating updraft, but it requires a lot more AC and general labor to accommodate it(read far more expensive).
The real solution here is UV returns, but they are almost impossible to get right now as one might imagine.
Personally I understand not wanting to put patients and healthcare professionals in that facility as it was designed and set up. 30 tons of normal AC recirculating air in a confined space. Prob 10ish times as bad as an average house because of the amount of air that has to be moved to effectively cool a tent. We’ve got the ability to overcome that and go positive pressure on those tents, could probably even put vent fans and pull air out of the top basically creating updraft, but it requires a lot more AC and general labor to accommodate it(read far more expensive).
The real solution here is UV returns, but they are almost impossible to get right now as one might imagine.
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Nobody even hinted that COVID would take over ICU. The concern was, and has always been, that the additive effect of COVID would stress the system beyond what it could handle. You know, like you go get a load of pavers in your truck and then you go get some sand to help with the brick foundation, but just as the front end loader is dumping the last half yard into the truck your suspension breaks. Are you gonna argue that the sand didn't break the suspension, but the bricks did, or are you just gonna be worried about having a broken suspension? The healthcare system is not designed to handle all of normal ICU and hospitalizations PLUS a new pandemic. It isn't that complicated!
"...as they see fit..." is the big issue. People have proven that they are selfish and common sense isn't common. If it was, we wouldn't need people to force us to wear masks to reduce the chance of us passing it on to others. Of course we also wouldn't need the majority of the laws that we have to punish bad behavior.
This is an unbelievable post. You expect Billy Bob to have more "modicum of intelligence" that the acting dumbotus.
ICU staff is not the same as regular staff. You can't just take a nurse of the regular floor and stick them in the ER.
O please. I agree that Trump should have a showed some better leadership earlier in this whole thing with the mask wearing, but let's not peddle the ridiculous theory that our Covid problem would have been solved if he would have simply walked around in public with a mask. If you honestly believe that nonsense, then you need serious help.
CDC is doubling down on that using Antibody testing, the actual number of Covid cases is 10X what is being reported... per CDC Twitter today. Which is good news.
But they don’t have a modicum of intelligence and that’s the problem. Trump and staff should have set an example for the lowest common denominators of the people and his base more specifically.
And it’s not just his base. Here in NC, people are gnashing their teeth because of the disproportionate infection rate among Hispanics. Ironically** I don’t see most Hispanics wearing masks.
And back to the whole mask thing. I’ve used this example before... let’s say you know I’m positive for Covid. And you are standing 6ft in front of me. I’m going to cough..in your direction. Would you feel any better if I had a mask on? Only an idiot would say no. But people’s effed up pride or ignorance gets in the way.
this video explains the obvious
https://apple.news/AqCmMK22NRumDVD81plrcUA
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What a hilarious fail. Are you really this dumb, or do you just play dumb on a message board?
Anyone else get confused with Kotter and Horshack and which side their on? Thank goodness we don’t have an Epstein and Vinny Barbarino.
Yup. A lot of the Karen's are acting the way they are because they have trouble accepting that something really bad happened and there's not much we can do about it. We have been extremely blessed/spoiled that we just haven't had to deal with anything like this in a while, especially in western europe and the USA. We haven't had any wars threaten our shores or involve anybody that didn't voluntarily join the military. We haven't had any really scary epidemics. Even in what was (hopefully) a once in a generation economic shock, it was mainly about finances, not people wondering whether they could feed themselves. Combine a population unprepared to accept that something like this can be unavoidable* with a click bait driven media that also hates the president, and this is what we get. A really bad thing made even worse.
*over time it's unavoidable that something like this will happen. Obviously China could have either prevented this or made it a lot less bad had they been less corrupt, but given that a lot of governments are going to be corrupt and are going to make mistakes even when they aren't, things like this are unavoidable.
Horshack is the one with a pic by his name and is well reasoned in his posts. Its how I keep em straight.
Itd be hella tough if we had a Mary Kate Olsen and an Ashley Olsen on the board and one were reasoned while the other was cartoonishly extreme.
But that would never happen because there is only one of em per John Oliver. Oooh- this belongs in the conspiracy thread too!
At yesterday's rate with 1/10th positives caught, MS is 46 days from the 40% threshold. 92 days away if 1/5 actual positives are confirmed going forward. @ 10x confirmed, we're less than two weeks from the 20% threshold where it's previously slowed down or been slowed down worldwide.
I hope this is true. I've been trying to find the reasons why our numbers continue to increase while other countries are on the decline. But looking at NY and some of the area hit initially, likely due to all the travelers, it now finally reaching our area and spreading. Makes you wonder if we would've waited to lock down until this summer instead of initially with everyone else, how our numbers would look. OR if we just need to reach that certain threshold and it slows down.