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57stratdawg

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[FONT=&quot]“we’re really at the verge of pushing our system over its capacity. In large measure, we’re already there,” Dobbs said.

Wow. Not good. [/FONT]
 

57stratdawg

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It would certainly be easier from a messaging perspective. You’re asking a lot out of your citizens to constantly try to keep up with rather their county is included or not.
 

engie

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Tough to take any of it particularly seriously when no one is doing anything to actually expand capacity, sans shutting down "elective procedures", while also removing the initial emergency measures for overruns that were already in place, and not calling in healthcare reinforcements from places like NY that have already essentially beaten this thing and have an army of healthcare professionals with tremendous COVID experience that are operating at less than 10% of what they were before.

I know that our hospitals in the Jackson area are filling up from talking to people in the profession. That part is true. But if it actually overruns -- it's 100% on administrative failure. They are too busy talking about it on the news to be solving any of the problems and doing any of the planning to minimize it seems to me.
 

Irondawg

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The scariest part is that 40% number, not necessarily the number of beds b/c those probably run at 80% or high capacity normally. I would have never guessed it would be above 25% taken by COVID patients
 

SteelCurtain74

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Yes masks need to be worn in public when social distancing is not possible but can we please teach people how to wear the damn things correctly. It's not difficult. I went to Lowe's and Kroger today and quit counting the number of people, including employees, who had thing below their nose or were constantly taking it down to talk. Wtf. Even Dobbs today would take his mask off every time someone asked him a question and put it back on when he was finished talking all the while Tate and the Mema guy are sitting there with no mask.
 
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msstate7

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Still boggles my mind why Reeves doesn’t just issue a statewide mandate.

I wear my mask whenever I've in public, but not sure what a mask mandate will change. Look at Los Angeles... they've had a mask mandate since mid-June, but the cases just keep going up.
 

SirBarksalot

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Yeah, your story about taking down extra space just a week ago sounds really ridiculous at this point..
The average health of a Mississippian is no mystery. And officials had to expect a higher percentage rate of hospitalizations.
I remember looking at data way back in April, and it showed MS seemed to be “ok” as far as number of beds for the population...can’t remember where I saw that.
 

EngDawg

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if people truly want their freedom and don’t want to be locked down again...just wear a mask in public. I don’t get the pushback. This is one that I think the administration really dropped the ball on...waiting too long to wear masks on camera. Trump, Pence, Macenany.

This is the answer. If Trump came out and wore a mask the day the guidelines were updated, we would not be in this position right now.
 

SirBarksalot

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I wear my mask whenever I've in public, but not sure what a mask mandate will change. Look at Los Angeles... they've had a mask mandate since mid-June, but the cases just keep going up.
If they didn’t have a mandate, it might have been worse. And I’m not sure but don’t think hospitals are in bad shape.
 

L4Dawg

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Yeah, your story about taking down extra space just a week ago sounds really ridiculous at this point..
The average health of a Mississippian is no mystery. And officials had to expect a higher percentage rate of hospitalizations.
I remember looking at data way back in April, and it showed MS seemed to be “ok” as far as number of beds for the population...can’t remember where I saw that.
He said he took down a triage facility. Y'all do know that's not ICU or even a standard hospital bed right?
 

Leeshouldveflanked

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If ICU beds are a concern.... why have they been shuttering the Covid Overflow units? There is a $60Million 401 bed Covid Overflow ICU Unit in Memphis that hasn’t had a patient.... why did UMMC take down their overflow unit? Why are we taking patients from Alabama?
 
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L4Dawg

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If ICU beds are a concern.... why have they been shuttering the Covid Overflow units? There is a $60Million 401 bed Covid Overflow ICU Unit in Memphis that hasn’t had a patient.... why didn’t UMMC take down their overflow unit? Why are we taking patients from Alabama?
The real problem is staff.
 

My Bru

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This is the answer. If Trump came out and wore a mask the day the guidelines were updated, we would not be in this position right now.
Absolute bullcrap. Let's not act like masks (or lack of wearing them) are the reason for the breakouts. People aren't picking this **** up at grocery stores. It's localized.

I'll wear that terribly uncomfortable, hot piece of crap mask if I have to. But besides a random sneeze, it's not really doing much regarding the spread as long as people are distancing. The people spreading this won't wear a mask even if you pay them to do so.
 
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RocketDawg

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Don't you live in Huntsville? Wife said today that Spiller (CEO Huntsville Hospital) said were were OK with ICU, plus they have capability to expand ICU if needed. They have a lot more Covid patients now than they did a month ago.
 

RocketDawg

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Agree. And I don't understand their hesitancy to do so. Just doesn't make sense. Kayleigh McEnany doesn't need to since she's briefing the press well away from the "reporters", but it wouldn't hurt if she did for optics.
 

RocketDawg

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Absolute bullcrap. Let's not act like masks (or lack of wearing them) are the reason for the breakouts. People aren't picking this **** up at grocery stores. It's localized.

I'll wear that terribly uncomfortable, hot piece of crap mask if I have to. But besides a random sneeze, it's not really doing much regarding the spread as long as people are distancing. The people spreading this won't wear a mask even if you pay them to do so.

I think if Trump and Pence wore them, it would convince many of the "don't take my rights" dudes to follow suit. Masks aren't a cureall, but shouldn't be a left/right political issue either.
 

MrKotter

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99.96% - covid survival (includes gunshot victims and motorcycle wrecks)
99.98% - flu survival rate

Keep up the fear mongering though. Y'all are doing great.
 

RocketDawg

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Not to mention that the virus doesn't stop at county or state lines. I'm not sure what his hesitation is. I wouldn't mind if there was a nationwide order, and it should be for more than just a couple of weeks (like Ivey's order) - needs to be longer to be effective, in my opinion. The politicians are more worried about being reelected than they are citizen safety, or so it seems.
 

RocketDawg

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I wear my mask whenever I've in public, but not sure what a mask mandate will change. Look at Los Angeles... they've had a mask mandate since mid-June, but the cases just keep going up.

It's because they're not enforcing the mandates, and in some cases have publicly said they would not enforce. I'm not sure how they have the option to pick and choose what is enforced. The mandates are not laws, but are executive orders. Maybe they need to be laws.
 

SirBarksalot

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He said he took down a triage facility. Y'all do know that's not ICU or even a standard hospital bed right?
Ok, yeah, I know what a triage facility is. I didn’t go back and see what engine said in detail.

Perhaps they should have planned better in any case was my point.
 
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Jeffreauxdawg

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Not arguing with your survival rate... Can you show me where you are coming up with that. Trying get the wife to let me send the kids back to school.

I ask because when I went to Mississippi State we learned that 99.94% is 4 in 10,000. Which would mean we are done with all the fake deaths in the US. Based on population and current deaths. I try to explain to her that it's all a big lie, most people are not dying from Covid, hospital administrators are fudging the death certificates to get that Rona money.

She then explained that administrators are not signing death certificates, doctors are and I told her the doctors must be lying too. She then asks me who said it was safe for kids to go back to school and I said the doctors. Now she has me in a corner. Cause are the doctors lying the deaths or the fact kids aren't getting it?

She then proceeded to ask me when people usually get sick from colds and flus... And then when do they die. I said winter. She asks how can we come up with a death rate when we have not even sniffed peak season yet?

I need help boys. She's got me in a corner. Can I get some Facebook links or something from the dark web to cite...
 
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dudehead

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Tough to take any of it particularly seriously when no one is doing anything to actually expand capacity, sans shutting down "elective procedures", while also removing the initial emergency measures for overruns that were already in place, and not calling in healthcare reinforcements from places like NY that have already essentially beaten this thing and have an army of healthcare professionals with tremendous COVID experience that are operating at less than 10% of what they were before.

I know that our hospitals in the Jackson area are filling up from talking to people in the profession. That part is true. But if it actually overruns -- it's 100% on administrative failure. They are too busy talking about it on the news to be solving any of the problems and doing any of the planning to minimize it seems to me.

Money. We don’t have the money to staff the ICUs we need. Makes us look damn foolish leaving $1 billion a year on the table by refusing to expand Medicaid. There’s a way to do it (see the Waller or Hood plan).

I think we want to be 50th in everything.
 

codeDawg

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99.96% - covid survival (includes gunshot victims and motorcycle wrecks)
99.98% - flu survival rate

Keep up the fear mongering though. Y'all are doing great.

That number makes no sense. .04% of 328MM, the US population, is 131K, or less than the number of people who have died so far.
 

SirBarksalot

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Yes masks need to be worn in public when social distancing is not possible but can we please teach people how to wear the damn things correctly. It's not difficult. I went to Lowe's and Kroger today and quit counting the number of people, including employees, who had thing below their nose or were constantly taking it down to talk. Wtf. Even Dobbs today would take his mask off every time someone asked him a question and put it back on when he was finished talking all the while Tate and the Mema guy are sitting there with no mask.

haha..my wife hasn’t been out hardly at all since March. We all went to the grocery a month or so ago..every time she started to talk she pulled her mask down. I was like, wtf are you doing that for? She said, “so you can hear me”..I laughed and said I could hear her fine.

It takes getting used to. But the people wearing it on their chins and not covering the mouths drive me nuts. I’m just trying to ignore it.
 

QuaoarsKing

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99.96% - covid survival (includes gunshot victims and motorcycle wrecks)
99.98% - flu survival rate

Keep up the fear mongering though. Y'all are doing great.

140,000 ÷ 0.04% = 350,000,000

That's 100 times as many cases have been reported in the US. In fact, it's higher than the entire population of the US. Might want to double check your math there. Did you do 140,000 ÷ 3,500,000 = 0.04 and not multiply by 100 to properly convert to a percent?

Even with the correct calculation, we can't really say 96% survival rate, because we don't have a reliable estimate of how many undiagnosed cases there have been, nor how many undiagnosed deaths, and we also don't know how many of the currently active cases will eventually be deaths but aren't yet.
 

Ralph Cramden

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Well there are 331 million people in this country give or take and how many deaths ? 135,000 ?? So....even leaving the portion of the 135k that are flu, gunshots, etc what are those percentages ?? Looks like .04 to me
 

TNT.sixpack

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Money. We don’t have the money to staff the ICUs we need. Makes us look damn foolish leaving $1 billion a year on the table by refusing to expand Medicaid. There’s a way to do it (see the Waller or Hood plan).

I think we want to be 50th in everything.

Dude -we won’t even face the gold eagle on the capital toward DC like all other city capitals do. We say 17 Washington. Do u really think we’d take Federal money for expanding Medicaid and then potentially giving Obama care a chance? Ummmm. No. We won’t.
 

QuaoarsKing

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Well there are 331 million people in this country give or take and how many deaths ? 135,000 ?? So....even leaving the portion of the 135k that are flu, gunshots, etc what are those percentages ?? Looks like .04 to me

That's not a survival rate unless 100% of Americans have contracted the disease
 

SirBarksalot

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Dude -we won’t even face the gold eagle on the capital toward DC like all other city capitals do. We say 17 Washington. Do u really think we’d take Federal money for expanding Medicaid and then potentially giving Obama care a chance? Ummmm. No. We won’t.

assuming your talking the MS Capitol. Which way does it face?
 

SirBarksalot

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Agree. And I don't understand their hesitancy to do so. Just doesn't make sense. Kayleigh McEnany doesn't need to since she's briefing the press well away from the "reporters", but it wouldn't hurt if she did for optics.
in a past press conference she was asked if she would wear a mask at one of the past rally’s, (OKC I think) she was adamant, very clear...that she would not. That type of **** from the administration was completely irresponsible and now it can’t be walked back from the diehards and Q types.


Its really unfortunate that the administration turned a really passive, easy thing to do into a political protest statement, that some part of the base will never walk back even though Trump now,is saying wearing a mask is “patriotic” ... too ******* late Trump.

This insane ****** dude could have run away with this election, but he cannot shut his twitter mouth, and he cannot listen to level headed people in his crew if there are any left.

I said it in 2016, but even more so today...I cannot believe the options I have to vote for, for the President of The United States.
 
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