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[GhostOfJackie]

I don’t want to derail this, but maybe that’s why a lot of people can’t understand the protest and the feelings of angst. We just assume everyone person, cop, retail employee is a decent person like us so it doesn’t make sense why people of color are so up in arms. On the flip side those terrible people make the biggest impression on poc in their daily life so they may forget that the majority of Caucasian people are good, decent, human beings. The riots suck and are ********. Tearing down statues violently is not the way to go. But these protest and conversations have opened up a tough dialogue between the two sides and the good guys on one side and the good guys on the other side can see eye to eye and slough off the **** that needs to be left behind and slowly dies with every generation.

Good point. Trust me, I’ve learned a lot that I didn’t know about our history over the past week. As someone who is usually annoyed by the constant anger and activism by people on both sides, I usually just turn the blinders on and go about my daily life without bothering to learn what motivates either of them. I’ve taken time this week to actually learn about flags and their history, and more about our states history. This is so I could at least back my position for change up to my some of my friends who were slinging mud at me. The fact that our state is so passionate about this will end up being a good thing once it’s over (hopefully today).

I know it’s difficult she see that now, but anytime an entire state looks deep within itself, it’s good for progress.

 

[WilCoDawg]

Has it opened up DIAlogues? All I see happening are monologues. If there’s any opinion against, then “racists!” is yelled. Or “white privilege” or whatever to shut down an actual adult dialogue. There must be give and take, but all I’m seeing is “take” and no “give”. This is just one man’s observation and opinion.

 

[mstateglfr]

No kidding. I said this in the past, but I’ve been watching his daily update videos just to see what we’re up against. It’s absolutely mind boggling to see what some of the people say. And I guess I didn’t realize there were so many of them. I thought I surrounded myself with what you would consider “normal Mississippians” but I clearly do not.

There is a whole gaggle of people in our state that just don’t have a clue. Is gaggle the right word?

I could see gaggle, but prefer murder- like a group of crows.
It works since as a group, Mississippians against the flag change are murdering the future of the state.

 

[Bcash2]

I doubt you've had actual conversations then. Comment sections, twitter, and message boards don't count.

 

[CreekFishin]

It's an expression. So are you in agreement blb's Lost Cause dissertation?

 

[CreekFishin]

Ha, you calling anyone a blowhard is rich. Nothing I can say will prompt you to give up your Lost Cause fairy tale.

 

[WilCoDawg]

I can tell from social media that no one wants a dialogue. Look at all of the “if you do/act/feel X, then you’re Y.” It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see this.

I bet you haven’t had an actual conversation either. You fellow white liberals don’t count either.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I swear you’re just a troll but I’m going to bite on this.

That’s not the Lost Cause and he’s not making the confederacy out to be some noble or heroic cause. He’s just pointing out that there were other things at play than just slavery. Slavery is far and away the reason for the Civil War. No one is downplaying that.

 

[Bcash2]

Thanks for confirming my thoughts.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

That’s not the 17ing Lost Cause.

 

[CreekFishin]

This state used to teach that it was 90% about states' rights. That got shot down a long time ago, but as we see, there are holdouts. Now he writes a dissertation that seeks diminish the role of slavery in secession decisions by a smidge here and there, when he could just read the articles of secession.

 

[patdog]

You need to re-read the secession documents. They couldn’t possibly make it more clear that it was about slavery.

 

[patdog]

Except the current flag includes a racist flag from the civil war. So yeah, it’s kind of relevant.

 

[WilCoDawg]

And thank you for confirming mine. It’s settled then!

 

[blacklistedbully]

I swear you’re just a troll but I’m going to bite on this.

That’s not the Lost Cause and he’s not making the confederacy out to be some noble or heroic cause. He’s just pointing out that there were other things at play than just slavery. Slavery is far and away the reason for the Civil War. No one is downplaying that.

This all day. This is exactly the entire point. Some people are either just too ignorant, too emotional to be rational, or just too "woke" to grasp the real points. Creek is a great example. I very clearly never espoused "The Lost Cause", clearly stated slavery was evil, the Confederacy wrong to justify it, and that it was the main and overriding cause of the Civil War. My only point has been that it wasn't the only cause, especially for the 95% of Southerners who didn't own any.

Think about how shallow-minded someone must be to read that, backed by documented factual evidence, and come away with the impression I was either supporting or excusing slavery & in denial about it being the main cause. I'm stunned by how impervious to facts one must be to arrive at that viewpoint, much less to act morally appalled about their blatantly false assumptions.

 

[HamSammich]

Best mashed potatoes? Skin on or skin off?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

That’s not even what he said. Now you’re just trolling.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

This all day. This is exactly the entire point. Some people are either just too ignorant, too emotional to be rational, or just too "woke" to grasp the real points. Creek is a great example. I very clearly never espoused "The Lost Cause", clearly stated slavery was evil, the Confederacy wrong to justify it, and that it was the main and overriding cause of the Civil War. My only point has been that it wasn't the only cause, especially for the 95% of Southerners who didn't own any.

Think about how shallow-minded someone must be to read that, backed by documented factual evidence, and come away with the impression I was either supporting or excusing slavery & in denial about it being the main cause. I'm stunned by how impervious to facts one must be to arrive at that viewpoint, much less to act morally appalled about their blatantly false assumptions.

You can post this 1000 times if you want, but slavery was the ONLY cause. They could not have made it clearer in their own documents and statements.

No Abraham Lincoln (who didn't actually promise to end slavery, but was elected by a political party founded on that purpose), no secession. President Douglas? No secession. President Breckinridge? No secession. Constitutional amendment to protect slavery passes? No secession.