I thought Vanderbilt was having surgery?

[CatfanMike47]

Not sure this is accurate. I thought they could go to the combine and then pull out of the draft. It would not make sense if this rule applied only to those who have used up their eligibility.

No the NCAA states that if an inderclassmem enter after the the 10 they can’t come back it was posted in another thread with a link

 

[BBUK_anon]

I think he's deciding if he's willing to go regardless of his draft stock or how teams feel about him, or if he wants that first round guarantee.

For example, Harry Giles needed another surgery. Nerlens was coming off ACL surgery and couldn't test or play or anything. Kyrie Irving needed surgery for most of the NBA season this year.

So maybe the surgery he needs is just to clear things up permanently so that it's not a lingering issue down the road. Like cleaning up a knee with a scope. It doesn't mean he can't run until the surgery is finished.

Thanks, I like Vanderbilt, I do but Vanderbilt is no Nerlens Noel...

 

[uk78_rivals88018]

Hey, thank you for the compliments on my question. But, why didn't I think to ask Tipton, he knows everything!

 

[Pete391]

Yahoo had a story on this a couple weeks ago....Said if he decided to test the waters for the NBA that he would wait to have the surgery after tryouts was over....I dont know what happened but thats what it said..

 

[westerncat]

Yahoo had a story on this a couple weeks ago....Said if he decided to test the waters for the NBA that he would wait to have the surgery after tryouts was over....I dont know what happened but thats what it said..

That is what is hard for me to understand. If he could not play on that foot in SECT Or NCAAT how was he going to tryout for the NBA on that same foot ?????????????

 

[nealau76]

I keep reading on how Vanderbilt hasn't decided yet to test the NBA waters. How can he go to the combine or have any evaluation if he needs or is having surgery? With all those who have declared already or exploring going to the combine why would any NBA scout take their chance of being fired for recommending someone they can't currently evaluate and then missing on others? Was the surgery need just a rumor?

J Vanderbilt is the biggest mystery in Kentucky Basketball history!

 

[crpoore]

Vanderbilt isn't even projected to go in the 2nd Rd. If he has a lick of sense, he will get healthy, stronger, and come back and try to win a title.

 

[ganner918_rivals60369]

The only thing I can find regarding the date April 10 - including looking at cached versions of now broken links - is that prior to the new rule, April 10 was the NCAA deadline to WITHDRAW for a player who had put his name into the draft. There are no articles from any source, including that I can find on the NCAA website, mentioning a "enter by April 10 or you can't come back" rule. It also doesn't pass a common sense check - if the NCAA lets players withdraw up through May 30, it is nonsensical to mandate that they have to declare before April 10 that they're putting their name in in the first place.

 

[PowerofPelphrey]

Great question would like to know the answer to this as well

He was the difference in us getting not to final four last year.

I feel pretty good saying we would have beat KSU if Vanderbilt played.

One or more of PJ’s 12 bricks from the line would have been rebounded or kept in play by Vando.

 

[KyFaninNC]

I know the answer as does everybody else, but no one wants to admit it.

 

[Ben101er]

Not for underclassman. If he declares now he won’t be able to return per the NCAA

Show me where it says this.

 

[Ben101er]

Not for underclassman. If he declares now he won’t be able to return per the NCAA

Sorry, but, you are incorrect. Here are all the rules for declaring for the draft.

• Two days after the NCAA Championship game, which takes place Monday, April 2, underclassmen can request feedback from the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee. That committee is made up of NBA executives and is designed to give prospects a fairly small window of where he might be selected in the upcoming draft. Those evaluations can be available to players about two to three weeks after an initial request. The final day for advisory requests is April 14. Making an advisory request does not mean the player is declaring for the draft. Last year, a reported 107 players asked for information from the committee.
• On April 22, 11:59 p.m., every underclassman who wants to declare for the draft needs to declare for the draft by submitting a letter to the NBA office. That's the deadline.
• On April 24, the NBA office will circulate a list of early-entry candidates. Only then can NBA teams contact those players to schedule workouts or watch workouts.
• On April 27, the combine invitations are sent to players.
• On May 16-20, the NBA Combine will be held in Chicago. Typically, about 70 players are invited to the combine, where they will be tested on various physical skills (running, jumping, etc.), weighed and measured. Some will compete in scrimmages. Some will compete in shooting drills. Some of the invited -- read lottery picks -- won't compete at all. The Chicago gym is crammed with all sorts of NBA coaches and talent evaluators.
• By 10 days after the combine ends -- May 30 (11:59 p.m.) -- potential early entrants who decide to stay in school must submit that request in writing to retain their college eligibility and continue their college careers.
• June 21, NBA Draft

The NCAA permits college underclassmen who declare for the draft and get invited to the combine to spend up to four hours per day and 20 hours per week working out with their college coaches in anticipation of the combine and/or the draft.

Underclassmen can work out for NBA teams in NBA cities, which the NBA can finance if the trips last 48 hours or fewer.

 

[caneintally]

Show me where it says this.

This true . It does read very odd . I am on my phone and can't find it at the moment but I am sure someone else can. To be very clear it is a NCAA rule . Has zero to do with NBA .

 

[caneintally]

Sorry, but, you are incorrect. Here are all the rules for declaring for the draft.

• Two days after the NCAA Championship game, which takes place Monday, April 2, underclassmen can request feedback from the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee. That committee is made up of NBA executives and is designed to give prospects a fairly small window of where he might be selected in the upcoming draft. Those evaluations can be available to players about two to three weeks after an initial request. The final day for advisory requests is April 14. Making an advisory request does not mean the player is declaring for the draft. Last year, a reported 107 players asked for information from the committee.
• On April 22, 11:59 p.m., every underclassman who wants to declare for the draft needs to declare for the draft by submitting a letter to the NBA office. That's the deadline.
• On April 24, the NBA office will circulate a list of early-entry candidates. Only then can NBA teams contact those players to schedule workouts or watch workouts.
• On April 27, the combine invitations are sent to players.
• On May 16-20, the NBA Combine will be held in Chicago. Typically, about 70 players are invited to the combine, where they will be tested on various physical skills (running, jumping, etc.), weighed and measured. Some will compete in scrimmages. Some will compete in shooting drills. Some of the invited -- read lottery picks -- won't compete at all. The Chicago gym is crammed with all sorts of NBA coaches and talent evaluators.
• By 10 days after the combine ends -- May 30 (11:59 p.m.) -- potential early entrants who decide to stay in school must submit that request in writing to retain their college eligibility and continue their college careers.
• June 21, NBA Draft

The NCAA permits college underclassmen who declare for the draft and get invited to the combine to spend up to four hours per day and 20 hours per week working out with their college coaches in anticipation of the combine and/or the draft.

Underclassmen can work out for NBA teams in NBA cities, which the NBA can finance if the trips last 48 hours or fewer.

All those guidelines are true. But there is a NCAA guideline if you want to keep your eligibility you needed to put your name in by last night. But you , in terms of the NBA , have til 22nd. People have been arguing this exact point for 2 full days and neither side can prove it to the other side as these things read so damn weird. LOL

 

[Anon1636470744]

Show me where it says this.

I don't know how to link it but a quick google search tells me that the deadline for college underclassmen is April 10. You lose your eligibility if you enter after that date.

 

[KentuckyStout]

Great question, I'd like to know the answer as well.

 

[caneintally]

it is a damn confusing thing though I will admit .

 

[Ben101er]

I don't know how to link it but a quick google search tells me that the deadline for college underclassmen is April 10. You lose your eligibility if you enter after that date.

Then don't link it. Copy and paste it, because I cannot find it. I think that the NCAA moved the deadline for withdrawal, 2 years ago, but, I don't think that there is a difference in the deadline for declaring, between the NBA and NCAA. Of course, I could be wrong, but, I have looked everywhere, and every thing that I have seen, corresponds to what I pasted earlier in this thread. That date is April 22.

 

[ganner918_rivals60369]

I don't know how to link it but a quick google search tells me that the deadline for college underclassmen is April 10. You lose your eligibility if you enter after that date.

Google shows the text from a link to the NCAA website that no longer exists, because the rule changed before last season. April 10 used to be the deadline to withdraw from the draft if you wanted to stay in college. I can't find, nor can anyone else, any NCAA rule or any article on the NCAA website or any sports or news website referencing such a rule - that you must enter by April 10 or you can't withdraw. That rule wouldn't even make sense.