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Keyser76

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He just said that to dumbasses that don't understand capitalism or economics, he is the last gasp of the old white guard but they won't go quietly, they think they are a majority still.
 
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These plants WILL NEED COAL to MAKE STEEL...

We found several examples of steel mills reopening or expanding in the two years, both before and after Trump announced the steel tariffs earlier this year.

In June 2018, Republic Steel announced plans to restart its furnace in Lorain, Ohio, after it had idled since 2016. It partially reopened in September 2018, bringing 80 new jobs to the city. The company credited the steel tariff. Republic Steel is also adding a shift at its Canton location.

JSW Steel USA initially planned to restart the Mingo Junction electric-arc furnace in September 2018. On Oct. 11, the company said it would restart in a "matter of weeks." The furnace has been idle since 2009. Plans to reopen precede Trump’s tariffs.

In January 2017, before the tariff, Charter Steel announced plans to build a new $150 million mill in Cuyahoga Heights, Ohio. In April 2017, Nucor Corp. announced it would invest $85 million to upgrade the rolling mill at its steel bar mill in Marion, Ohio.

Many additional mills in Ohio are actively hiring workers, according to Hill. The active hiring started about three years ago for the first time since 1997.
 
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eerdoc

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~IRWT~ said:
...yet coal-fired plants are closing at a record rate. Was super easy to take Hillary out of context in stump speeches to a desperate group to gin up votes; although he knew the real culprit all along was cheap, cleaner, and plentiful natural gas.

http://ieefa.org/ieefa-report-u-s-likely-to-end-2018-with-record-decline-in-coal-fired-capacity/
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Are the coal mines producing more coal now than in 2015? Are the miners working more hours and drawing bigger checks than in the 5 years preceding Tump's election? Do we care if the coal is going to more coal fired electricity producing plants in the USA or being shipped elsewhere?
 
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eerdoc said:
Are the coal mines producing more coal now than in 2015?
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No.



Thanks for playing.
 
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Obama Kept His Promise, 83,000 Coal Jobs Lost And 400 Mines ...
This Labor Day, America has 83,000 fewer coal jobs and 400 coal mines than it did when Barack Obama was elected in 2008, showing that the president has followed through on his pledge to "bankrupt" the coal industry.

Sky-high Electric Bills Courtesy of Obama EPA's War on Coal
As Obama's EPA institutes new regulations on coal-fired power plants, the number of operating plants will steadily dwindle, causing increased costs and job loss.

Obama's War on Coal - George Jarkesy - Townhall Finance
During the Bush administration coal production from Federal land averaged 515 million tons/year but in three years under Obama it is only 272 million tons, a reduction of almost 50%.

Obama Halts All New Federal Coal Projects: This Week's ...
Obama previewed the news on Tuesday during his State of the Union address, when he promised to "push to change the way we manage our oil and coal resources so that they better reflect the costs ...


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Trump signs bill undoing Obama coal mining rule | TheHill
President Trump on Thursday signed legislation ending a key Obama administration coal mining rule.

Trump plan scales back Obama's coal emissions standards
Even so, the Obama plan has been a factor in a wave of retirements of coal-fired plants, which also are being squeezed by lower costs for natural gas and renewable power and state mandates that ...

Trump EPA overhauls Obama-era regulations for coal-fired ...
Even so, the Obama plan has been a factor in a wave of retirements of coal-fired plants, which also are being squeezed by lower costs for natural gas and renewable power and state mandates that ...

Trump Orders a Lifeline for Struggling Coal and Nuclear ...
WASHINGTON — President Trump has ordered Energy Secretary Rick Perry to "prepare immediate steps" to stop the closing of unprofitable coal and nuclear plants around the country, Sarah ...


like a reverse bell curve...

it's going to take time...

let's check his progress after he's reelected...
 
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eerdoc said:
Are the coal mines producing more coal now than in 2015? Are the miners working more hours and drawing bigger checks than in the 5 years preceding Tump's election? Do we care if the coal is going to more coal fired electricity producing plants in the USA or being shipped elsewhere?
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Yes miners are working more hours.
 
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~IRWT~

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dave said:
After 8 years of Obamas war he should just to be fair. Barrack was by far the dumbest president in history.
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And you are by far the dumbest voting block in history, baby boomers. Scared shitless of your own shadow and completely self entitled. Make Millennials look down right selfless. Cant think past your personal life span and piggyback off forbearers achievements like they are your own.
 
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And you are by far the dumbest voting block in history, baby boomers. Scared shitless of your own shadow and completely self entitled. Make Millennials look down right selfless. Cant think past your personal life span and piggyback off forbearers achievements like they are your own. Pathetic.
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I am far from a baby boomer. So who is dumb?
 
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~IRWT~

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And you are by far the dumbest voting block in history, baby boomers. Scared shitless of your own shadow and completely self entitled. Make Millennials look down right selfless. Cant think past your personal life span and piggyback off forbearers achievements like they are your own.
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The Donald make your feel good because h
dave said:
I am far from a baby boomer. So who is dumb?
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Good comeback. Potsy.
 
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~IRWT~ said:
And you are by far the dumbest voting block in history, baby boomers. Scared shitless of your own shadow and completely self entitled. Make Millennials look down right selfless. Cant think past your personal life span and piggyback off forbearers achievements like they are your own.
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They voted for Obama.
 
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BigAL.

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Yes he did save coal and he is not done. In the process to make coal competitive. Will be getting rid of more unnecessary regulations that purposefully drove up the cost of mining coal.
 
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BigAL. said:
Yes he did save coal and he is not done. In the process to make coal competitive. Will be getting rid of more unnecessary regulations that purposefully drove up the cost of mining coal.
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The compariaon of coal vs NG price as fuel for generation is the best argument I can make to outline the devastation done to coal by the Obama admin. NG operations have a distinct regulatory advantage in permitting due to actions by the Bush administration that set a low hurdle for operators while coal on the other hand was dealt regulatory blow after blow. First permits to mine new coal were almost shut down so operations were limited to their current permits and then the EPA enacted rules to make electricity generation via coal much more expensive. Suggesting coal has been hurt by low cost NG is like saying the reason it is snowing is because it is cold.
 
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Seriously? No chance. His vocabulary is 3 times that of Tiny. And vocabulary is widely accepted as a measure of intelligence.
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Trump has a very high IQ. Vocabulary has a stong correlation to intelligence but knowing a lot of words and knowing how to use them are important. Few politicians including Obama write their own speeches so their vocabulary is more correlated to the intelligence of their own Toby Ziegler and Josh Lyman.
 
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BigAL.

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Coal would be soon completely dead if Trump had not geen elected. I know lots of people that have gone back to work in the coal industry. Mines that have not shut down but have gotten new coal contracts. There is now confidnce among coal people. Thanks to our president Donald Trump.
 
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BigAL. said:
Coal would be soon completely dead if Trump had not geen elected. I know lots of people that have gone back to work in the coal industry. Mines that have not shut down but have gotten new coal contracts. There is now confidnce among coal people. Thanks to our president Donald Trump.
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A few mines in Mcdowell coubty have reopened.
 
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