No person on earth is perfect. Calipari’s record speaks for itself. As you say, people are emotional today. And as we already know, some of our posters do not believe they should be held responsible for what they post when they are feeling emotional.
I Support Cal
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I've been guilty of emotional posts. I try to give people a day of forgiveness after a loss. A couple days after a tournament loss. I think people were happy with our team at the end, but folks are just pissed at the lost opportunity.
Ok since you apparently are an expert tell us who Mitch should go after that’ll do better than what we’ve had the last 9 years. Please enlighten me lol.
Cal's version of OAD is a disaster for the program. Make some intelligent changes and Cal can stay. He's not getting the best talent now, Coach K is. Wholesale reloading each season is insane unless you CAN get the very best...he clearly IS NOT. If Cal doesn't change, UK is foolish to keep him. He likes to say it's about the kids but isn't it also about him? Do OAD smart or be gone, IMO. I'm confident UK can get any coach they want but the choice will need to be well considered for best results. The program will, in many ways, make the coach as long as the coach is not Tubby-like or have Gillispie-like dysfunction. Those were both BAD hires for a program like UK and should have gotten the AD fired. We need a younger coach with attitude, solid experience, and moxy. Cal is aging out and his priorities are in question. As to your question of who is my 'smart' choice for coach...I don't know, I'm not that smart. When UK puts me in charge of the search and make that hire, I'll be sure to post it here first.
I won’t have the high expectations with the next coach which will make things easier to deal with when we eventually lose in the tournament.
You don't have to be a fan, ya know. Never seen your posts before (but love the screen name), but maybe let the emotions settle a bit.
I'm 59 years old and have been alive for 4 of the eight national championships we've won, the first being in 1978. No one would dispute that UK is a blue blood program; most wins, second in NCs. Yet we've only won 8 and I've seen all the coaches, Rupp, Joe B, Eddie...etc., all the way up to Cal. Winning a NC is tough to do, one bad night, like last night, and you're through; Just ask Coach K, Izzo, Self, Boeheim...the list goes on of supposedly the best coaches in the game that lost when they shouldn't have. Much of what Cal has done at UK is unprecedented. Who would those that are done with him replace him with? Does he need to do a better job at times? Sure. I don't like the OAD era, but it is what it is. I'm tired of hearing him say how young they are, even if its true, and how he should have called a timeout, he should have, but I like knowing we have a shot at a NC every year. 1948 was the first NC and in the next 70 years we've only managed to win 7 more and only one team has won more in that time-frame. Be careful what you wish for, Billy G could be just around the corner.
All of that and you don’t have an answer. Just faaaaar Cal lol. Newsflash for you. Cal isn’t perfect but he’s the best for the job. This year was going to be difficult for a number of reasons. We lost 8 players off last years team including 3 seniors. K has taken his recruiting mojo but that’s another discussion. Cal is too much of a competitor to sit back and not make some adjustments. I’m willing to be patient and see what he does.
Been a fan for many years, decades. You can be a fan without posting here too, you know. Emotions are in check...trying to deal with stone cold reality while others seem to live in delusion. If your handle implies your military service, hats off with respect and thank you.
Thank you, Elwood. Well, my personal opinion is (which is think most fans share) is that Cal isn't perfect, but he's perfect for HC at Kentucky. We really couldn't get, nor ask, for any better.
I am just saying that his current version of OAD isn't ever going to work if NC titles matter. Coach K is kicking his tail in recruiting. I think wholesale reloading every year is flawed unless you can recruit the absolute best each year and he cannot do that year in and year out. Cal should recruit two or three OADs each year surrounded by solid core of talented four year players. I think if he recruits wisely this way, he will beat Coach K at the game K has co-opted from him. His players first approach sounds good but undermines the program and fans.
I'm fairly sure, through his entire tenure at UK, fans have been wanting a good mix. Problem is, seems like most players think they're guaranteed to be a OAD just by setting foot in Lex.
Just so you know, not looking in your direction for my newsflashes. You laugh that I didn't specifically answer your simplistic question whose answer is one in need of serious consideration...and you "laugh out loud"? How much patience does it take before you "figure out" whats going on. In your case, patience may not be a good idea. Some kind of change needs to come soon.
Elwood? I know an Elwood...rare breed. Not me though. I am very common.
Agreed, Cal not perfect. Almost perfect for UK. Won't agree that we couldn't get better. Love Cal as a person, certainly, but he's getting beat at his own game and looking bad at the same time. He needs more consistent quality of 4 year talent year in and year out and less quantity of OADs each year. His current model is flawed, IMO. That's all. Don't hate the man...I just love my PROGRAM more.
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It’s a simple question you won’t or more realistically can’t answer. That’s the funny part. If you’re gonna fly off the handle and say Cal needs to go and many coaches out there are better then you should be able to name a few.
Not true. There was a poll on this exact same topic at the end of last season and it was dead even at 50-50. I’d be willing to bet the approval rating for Cal’s system is a little less this year. It’s been dipping slightly every year for the past 2-3 years. His swinging door policy isn’t going to get us #9.
The program has to matter first. Unchecked OAD delusions must be managed to some degree but players need to be targeted for three or maybe four year commitments to sustain the program year to year. That's all I'm saying. I think this model would be better than wholesale reloading every year especially now since Cal cannot get the best talent. What we saw this year could easily become the norm.
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1. I support Cal.
2. Last night, and all games are absolutely are Cal's "fault" good or bad. He is responsible for assembling and coaching his team.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
2. Last night, and all games are absolutely are Cal's "fault" good or bad. He is responsible for assembling and coaching his team.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Was the poll on a message board? If so, spare me. Hardly an accurate cross section of UK fans. I'd bet the timing of the poll lent itself to negative results also.
I said that if changes aren't made, I want him gone. Who would be his replacement? Simple answer is, I'll say it again, I don't know at this point and going through a list of names is more your speed apparently, but pointless. What I know is that most look at the obvious has-beens, which is always stupid. Georgia made a stupid hire with Crean, classic AD ***-cover. Years ago, UMass hired a young upstart named Calipari...who landed in the NBA, then Memphis. Are you suggesting there are no younger coaches with the mojo to coach at UK? The AD and board will need spine to hire the right coach rather than the safe coach to protect their decision from potential criticism. I don't sit around and study coaches, I just study the one in front of me and because of his mismanaged OAD experiment at UK, without adjustments, you can prepare for this years team to become the norm and that's just not acceptable if you care about the program. If you don't care and willing to settle-for whatever Cal says, then you're good but as is, I'm not. This thing called UK basketball is about the Tradition and The Program, it's NOT about Calipari (or any one coach) and some grand OAD experiment that's now been co-opted by Coach K. Cal got himself into this mess and Cal needs to make adjustments or be gone, IMO. I hope he's smart enough to make it happen.
Love Coach Cal and there’s still nobody I’d rather have on the sidelines. Everyone had a bad night last night, just the way it goes sometimes. Hopefully some of our guys do the smart thing and return next year to help lead the freshmen and we can be a serious title contender.
Wait. I've been that K is kicking his *** in recruiting.., it can't be both.
K has most talent last two years and next three.
K has most talent last two years and next three.
Yep. Let's see if Travis or Pel. can turn this around.
I hear there is a coach down in Fl looking for work