I heard a rumor yesterday...

DvlDog4WVU

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Larry Hogan was in NH and rumored to join Bill Weld to potentially primary Trump. If Larry Hogan runs, I’ll be voting for Larry Hogan and I encourage everyone left and right to do so.
 

dave

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Larry Hogan was in NH and rumored to join Bill Weld to potentially primary Trump. If Larry Hogan runs, I’ll be voting for Larry Hogan and I encourage everyone left and right to do so.
He is hinting he will run.
 

Boomboom521

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Larry Hogan was in NH and rumored to join Bill Weld to potentially primary Trump. If Larry Hogan runs, I’ll be voting for Larry Hogan and I encourage everyone left and right to do so.
He made some pretty blunt statements about Trump and his disapproval of his administration while in NH. Said NH people like to meet their candidates face to face, and that’s why he’s up there
 

WVUCOOPER

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Larry Hogan was in NH and rumored to join Bill Weld to potentially primary Trump. If Larry Hogan runs, I’ll be voting for Larry Hogan and I encourage everyone left and right to do so.
You mean join on the same ticket? Would Weld be the top of that ticket? I think primary is a lost fight. Would be outstanding if they ran as a choice in November.
 

dave

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You mean join on the same ticket? Would Weld be the top of that ticket? I think primary is a lost fight. Would be outstanding if they ran as a choice in November.
He is going to run in the primary
 

mule_eer

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Who is Larry Hogan?
Republican Governor of Maryland. I know more about Weld (former GOP Gov of Massachusetts). I like Weld, have a suspicion that I would like Hogan too, but would like to hear his platform first. I'm not a huge fan of most of the current leaders on the Dem side. I think the mayor from Indiana sounds reasonable, but he hasn't really built a platform yet. He's on a popularity tour right now, and I think he's really setting himself up to be someone's running mate. I tend to like Klobuchar, but she's not gaining much momentum right now. She's moderate and can take the heat IMHO.
 

Mntneer

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A primary run is a waste. His best bet.... learn to embrace the Libertarian platform and run on it.

My problem with Hogan, is while he's Republican in a Democratic state... it's such a bad example of a Democratic state that bothers me.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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A primary run is a waste. His best bet.... learn to embrace the Libertarian platform and run on it.

My problem with Hogan, is while he's Republican in a Democratic state... it's such a bad example of a Democratic state that bothers me.
Expound on the latter. I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying.

I like Hogan, I like Hogan a lot.
 

Boomboom521

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Expound on the latter. I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying.

I like Hogan, I like Hogan a lot.
 

Mntneer

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Expound on the latter. I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying.
I like Hogan, I like Hogan a lot.

Doing business in Maryland. Sucks. Gun laws in Maryland. Sucks. Having to drive through Maryland to get to other parts of WV. Sucks. Terrapins. Sucks.

But I'm sure Hogan is a decent guy.

He loathes you Marylanders (Marys?). It was pretty obvi.

;)

He lives in Martinsburg. He doesn’t know if he’s from WV, MD, or VA.

We are our own state. [banana]
 

DvlDog4WVU

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You mean join on the same ticket? Would Weld be the top of that ticket? I think primary is a lost fight. Would be outstanding if they ran as a choice in November.
No, they’re both going to challenge Trump independent of each other. I’d love to see 1 or both run 3rd party. Hogan would wreck the election and I don’t know for which side.m, maybe both. Him as a 3rd party would certainly pull the Dem candidates back towards center lest they lose centrist independents to him.
 

Mntneer

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No, they’re both going to challenge Trump independent of each other. I’d love to see 1 or both run 3rd party. Hogan would wreck the election and I don’t know for which side.m, maybe both. Him as a 3rd party would certainly pull the Dem candidates back towards center lest they lose centrist independents to him.

If it came down to only Hogan, Trump and Sanders/Harris/Biden/Beto/Bedadeickcuck.... I'd vote for Hogan.
 

WVUCOOPER

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If it came down to only Hogan, Trump and Sanders/Harris/Biden/Beto/Bedadeickcuck.... I'd vote for Hogan.
Our votes (You and I) truly don't matter. I doubt Dog's will either. I can't imagine we'll see many "protest" votes in competitive states. One way or the other.

Is Hogan a (((Globalist)))?
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Our votes (You and I) truly don't matter. I doubt Dog's will either. I can't imagine we'll see many "protest" votes in competitive states. One way or the other.

Is Hogan a (((Globalist)))?
Of the field, Hogan and Weld are the only 2 with a track record of working across the aisle.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Of the field, Hogan and Weld are the only 2 with a track record of working across the aisle.
Do you think there's a significant number of voters that actually care about that?

Also, you didn't answer if he was a (((Globalist)))?
 

roadtrasheer

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Repub Gov of MD and a great human being.....I'd vote for him.
Well now i have to research him a little...i cant see me voting for any Democrat right now & i truly love the idea of a strong independent, cause i believe the two party system is broken & to many people are indebted one way or the other to party politics...
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Do you think there's a significant number of voters that actually care about that?

Also, you didn't answer if he was a (((Globalist)))?
No idea. I’d hazard and say yes but I’m not sure. He is fiscal and he’s pro business. Despite the Baltimore Sun’s efforts, he had Democrats on the ticket lining up for his endorsement this last election. He’s pro-common sense.
 

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No idea. I’d hazard and say yes but I’m not sure. He is fiscal and he’s pro business. Despite the Baltimore Sun’s efforts, he had Democrats on the ticket lining up for his endorsement this last election. He’s pro-common sense.

If you think that running someone against Trump in the primary is good for the Republican party, I'll gladly sell you some WV oceanfront property. If a 3rd party "republican" runs, it will 100% guarantee that even Bernie Sanders (or whoever) would win. This would be Ross Perot all over again.

Moderates would not bring democrats to the table, only allow them to gain more control to move us further left. Look no further than the Bush's, they were moderates and all the left did was attack them over and over again and gave us Clinton and Obama.
 

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Hogan might be betting on what will happen when the other 12 criminal referrals in the Mueller report drop.
 

Pospecteer

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Hogan might be betting on what will happen when the other 12 criminal referrals in the Mueller report drop.

Do you really think the the 12 criminal referrals will bring Trump down? If they had anything, they would have moved forward as they wound want to maintain control.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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If you think that running someone against Trump in the primary is good for the Republican party, I'll gladly sell you some WV oceanfront property. If a 3rd party "republican" runs, it will 100% guarantee that even Bernie Sanders (or whoever) would win. This would be Ross Perot all over again.

Moderates would not bring democrats to the table, only allow them to gain more control to move us further left. Look no further than the Bush's, they were moderates and all the left did was attack them over and over again and gave us Clinton and Obama.
I don’t really care. I vote my conscience regardless. I voted for Reagan in the last election. If Weld or Hogan run, I’ll be voting for them. There isn’t a single Dem on the ticket currently that I’d vote for. If neither Weld or Hogan are in the general, I don’t know who I’ll vote for. Maybe Trump, or I might write in again like last time.
 

MOUNTIE IN MD

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I hope Hogan runs, he's not into this partisan crap that continues to plague our country. I've had a chance to meet Gov Hogan...very down-to-earth man. They were saying on the radio that he's the only Gov in MD history to have over 60% approval ratings in all categories (Rep, Dem, men, women, all ages and demographics). He's a moderate Republican so would probably pick up a good deal of the Independent voters along with some Dems.
 

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I don’t really care. I vote my conscience regardless. I voted for Reagan in the last election. If Weld or Hogan run, I’ll be voting for them. There isn’t a single Dem on the ticket currently that I’d vote for. If neither Weld or Hogan are in the general, I don’t know who I’ll vote for. Maybe Trump, or I might write in again like last time.

Good for you, glad you vote your conscience. The US is a two party system and a 3rd party candidate only gives the underdog a better chance of winning. While I am not a fan of Trump's style, he is 100% better than anyone the Dem's will offer. What stance has he taken that a moderate republican could deliver a better solution?
 

bornaneer

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Hogan might be betting on what will happen when the other 12 criminal referrals in the Mueller report drop.
Evidently....you know very little about Larry Hogan. Those referrals will have nothing to do in any decision Hogan makes.
 

bornaneer

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Despite the fact that Democrats outnumber Republicans 2–1 in Maryland and Hogan
has enjoyed high approval ratings and is popular even among Democrats.
A June 2018 poll showed that Hogan had a 60% approval rating among Democrats
 

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Despite the fact that Democrats outnumber Republicans 2–1 in Maryland and Hogan
has enjoyed high approval ratings and is popular even among Democrats.
A June 2018 poll showed that Hogan had a 60% approval rating among Democrats

Gov. Christie of NJ had the same approval ratings until he wanted to go national, and then the dem's went after him and lost everything to something called bridgegate,
 

bornaneer

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Gov. Christie of NJ had the same approval ratings until he wanted to go national, and then the dem's went after him and lost everything to something called bridgegate,
Christie is/was a snake. As someone who lived in Anne Arundel County MD for 36 years and knows a lot about Hogan......Hogan is no Christie.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Good for you, glad you vote your conscience. The US is a two party system and a 3rd party candidate only gives the underdog a better chance of winning. While I am not a fan of Trump's style, he is 100% better than anyone the Dem's will offer. What stance has he taken that a moderate republican could deliver a better solution?
Trade
Budget
Debt
Healthcare

That’s a pretty large chunk of a platform.
 

Pospecteer

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Trade
Budget
Debt
Healthcare

That’s a pretty large chunk of a platform.

Trade- I could a difference here, but what is the next president going to do? Go back to allowing our trading partners to continue to take advantage of us? It may not be popular but the tariffs are in place, they will either crush our economy or our trading partners will cave in. Right now, we have a strong economy and the rest of the world is slowing, and China is at its lowest point in the last 40 years. If not now, then when?

Budget- what could he do different? Bush tried to balance the budget, the libs killed it. Obama expanded the budget, the moderate republicans went along with it. Do you think a moderate Republican can get the liberals to defund social programs? It will never happen! That leaves raising taxes or defunding our military, which poison pill will you choose?

Debt- Not sure what any president can do with debt without the entire gov. buying in. Without balancing the budget, debt will continue to rise. A strong economy is the only way to lesson debt.

Healthcare- I have worked in healthcare for over 30 years, Trump is giving the Legislature full reign to come up with a solution to no avail. If you remember, the Republicans took control of the Legislature by promising to get rid of the AMA, where is the solution? The ACA was built to fail, the only thing a president can do is drive us to a single payor system but it will take all hands on deck to fix the system.
 

WVUCOOPER

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what is the next president going to do? Go back to allowing our trading partners to continue to take advantage of us?
How dare our trading partners, make us the the wealthiest country in human history. I hate to be an ***, but your comment just shows complete and utter ignorance when it comes to trade. Kroger is not taking advantage of me, just because I have a trade deficit with them.
 

Pospecteer

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How dare our trading partners, make us the the wealthiest country in human history. I hate to be an ***, but your comment just shows complete and utter ignorance when it comes to trade. Kroger is not taking advantage of me, just because I have a trade deficit with them.

Utter ignorance- and you use Kroger as your example? Are you really trying to compare buying stuff at Krogers to the trade deficit we have with China? We are the wealthiest county in the world because we allow for free trade and allow private business's to run their business the best way possible. That is not true with many of our trading partners who we have major deficits with.

Explain China to me? We have a huge trade deficient with them, they own our debt, they steal our intellectual property rights, they spy on our gov. and on top of that defend our enemies and have human rights violations that are beyond what a modern day country should allow. Yet until this year, we subsidized postal service for any chinese company shipping to the US?
 

lenny4wvu

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Do you really think the the 12 criminal referrals will bring Trump down? If they had anything, they would have moved forward as they wound want to maintain control.
[pfftt]...Dims,criminal referrals?![pfftt] "Legit sources" other than the dip ***** on the mockingbird propaganda networks..I'll wait for an "intelligent" sourced response :popcorn:
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Trade- I could a difference here, but what is the next president going to do? Go back to allowing our trading partners to continue to take advantage of us? It may not be popular but the tariffs are in place, they will either crush our economy or our trading partners will cave in. Right now, we have a strong economy and the rest of the world is slowing, and China is at its lowest point in the last 40 years. If not now, then when?
The trade war shot his economic growth strategy in the dick. Period. The TPP could’ve serve the same purpose without the collateral damage. But in general, the trade wars need to stop.
Budget- what could he do different? Bush tried to balance the budget, the libs killed it. Obama expanded the budget, the moderate republicans went along with it. Do you think a moderate Republican can get the liberals to defund social programs? It will never happen! That leaves raising taxes or defunding our military, which poison pill will you choose?
I’d take cuts across all sections and I’d have done it when I had all three houses. Regardless, we have to reduce spending.
Debt- Not sure what any president can do with debt without the entire gov. buying in. Without balancing the budget, debt will continue to rise. A strong economy is the only way to lesson debt.
Reduce spending. Period.
Healthcare- I have worked in healthcare for over 30 years, Trump is giving the Legislature full reign to come up with a solution to no avail. If you remember, the Republicans took control of the Legislature by promising to get rid of the AMA, where is the solution? The ACA was built to fail, the only thing a president can do is drive us to a single payor system but it will take all hands on deck to fix the system.
I agree the ACA was built to fail. The GOP dropped the ball on healthcare with repeal and replace. It’s why they were replaced in 18.