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Wittymoniker1

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RockSoup said:
Two last things Wit so we can return Edgy's board back to a HS football board and not a St. Rita admissions site:

You wondered if we can compete athletically with the big boys still and there is no doubt that this class will.

And second, this has been slowly happening without the spotlight on for awhile (the curriculum change, individual path, stronger academics) which is why private school rankings like Niche have Rita ranked ahead of any of the south side high schools by many spots.

To a fellow alum, the future is bright, now back to HS football. Love your passion Witt!
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+1. Now, this might be considered homer, tough-guy talk, but I did hear great things about this incoming class, especially a certain RB.

And to your second point, that's why we don't need a 135 cutoff; it's gradually getting there!

Yes, go Rita go! Mustang to the end! I wonder how CPA feels about this?
 
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Topiarydan1

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Heard that over time Rita's full tuition would be $17,000. At Rice through endowment and other approaches we're trying to get our base tuition/fees/etc at $10,000 full tuition. Again only about 28-30% of students at Rice currently get any form of financial aid, but that is growing due to rising costs and shrinking pools of kids who would have gone to a Catholic school but can now go to a solid CPS magnet school or a suburban school like Sandburg, Stagg, Lincoln Ways, etc.
 
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Where I think a move has to be made is Laurence and Peace merging or combining then selling off the Peach building. I just can't see long term going further unless they can open up the Central Avenue corridor to make it easier for kids in Stickney, Cicero, Berwyn, Riverside, etc to get to Larry
 
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Heard that over time Rita's full tuition would be $17,000. At Rice through endowment and other approaches we're trying to get our base tuition/fees/etc at $10,000 full tuition. Again only about 28-30% of students at Rice currently get any form of financial aid, but that is growing due to rising costs and shrinking pools of kids who would have gone to a Catholic school but can now go to a solid CPS magnet school or a suburban school like Sandburg, Stagg, Lincoln Ways, etc.
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Thanks for the speculation. Sort of like when a Rita coach was leaving for Lockport a couple years ago. Or that this year's team wouldn't win a Blue game or make the state playoffs. Or that Rita's dying a slow death. This board's speculations about Rita's future do not have a good track record.

Message boards are great!
 
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Where do expect Rita's tuition to go? Down?
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Not much into speculating. All I know is with the excitement this weekend created when other families found out who tested where, 7th grade parents started asking me 'how can they have a shadow day at St. Rita'. Interest is sky high.

So don't know how that affects it all but good luck on your mission at Rice, (I think you mentioned you were on the finance committee before), I hope you reach your goals. Strong Catholic schools are something both you and I root for.
 
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SOUTHSIDECFD

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Thanks for the speculation. Sort of like when a Rita coach was leaving for Lockport a couple years ago. Or that this year's team wouldn't win a Blue game or make the state playoffs. Or that Rita's dying a slow death. This board's speculations about Rita's future do not have a good track record.

Message boards are great!
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Let's see SR was going to go winless in the Blue. Wrong.
SR would be lucky to stay open. 246 take the test. Wrong.

All of those comments seem to be coming out of supporters of two schools. This recruiting war thing was getting out of hand. If this plays out maybe SR can make referrals to other schools.

But my personal opinion SR worked hard at this recruitment thing and got better than expected results. If they had a smaller number like 200 they could have had gotten down to 135-150 w/o anyone knowing. Since the SR alumni seem to be paying a lot of the bills do they get a seat at the table?

Which H.S.'s have the biggest endowments? I was told SR was only like 5th or 6th in fundraising our the CCL schools.
 
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SOUTHSIDECFD said:
Let's see SR was going to go winless in the Blue. Wrong.
SR would be lucky to stay open. 246 take the test. Wrong.

All of those comments seem to be coming out of supporters of two schools. This recruiting war thing was getting out of hand. If this plays out maybe SR can make referrals to other schools.

But my personal opinion SR worked hard at this recruitment thing and got better than expected results. If they had a smaller number like 200 they could have had gotten down to 135-150 w/o anyone knowing. Since the SR alumni seem to be paying a lot of the bills do they get a seat at the table?

Which H.S.'s have the biggest endowments? I was told SR was only like 5th or 6th in fundraising our the CCL schools.
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Agree with the alumni at the table point. But I also remember a time when Rita moved from 63rd St. to 77th St. there were alumni saying 'Quigley's not my school, my Rita is on 63rd St.'. So alumni can be emotional at times and there has to be strong leadership that makes hard decisions as market forces evolve.

The second one about the endowments sounds like bar stool talk unless there is some public record I'm not aware of.
 
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Sorry CFD but to add on to a couple of your points. I do not know Rita's endowment number but I could find out. I do know that the school has operated in the black the last couple of years which is very healthy.

And you are correct about the recruiting shenanigans on this board. But those posters from other schools make my conversations with families so much easier. Especially when they go with the neighborhood one, like they're at a tavern. The types of families I talk to see those comments for what they are.
 
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Heard that over time Rita's full tuition would be $17,000. At Rice through endowment and other approaches we're trying to get our base tuition/fees/etc at $10,000 full tuition. Again only about 28-30% of students at Rice currently get any form of financial aid, but that is growing due to rising costs and shrinking pools of kids who would have gone to a Catholic school but can now go to a solid CPS magnet school or a suburban school like Sandburg, Stagg, Lincoln Ways, etc.
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The East Coast Augustinian High School is $17,300. More like the demographics of a LA (Wilmette).
 
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Topiarydan1

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When you have 135 per class then either your tuition needs to go up and/or your endowment needs to nearly double and/or you have to cut on expenses (i.e. let certain teachers/staff go). Simple economics. Rita I believe has a current Freshman class of around 155 this year so overall it does allow Rita to forge its niche and stay in that 600 range.
 
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Congrats to Coach DeCesare on getting named as a coach to the McDonald's AA Game (West team) and to the Crusaders for handing Marist its first defeat in hoops this year. And the Hawks won too
 
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CCLGUY1964

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When you have 135 per class then either your tuition needs to go up and/or your endowment needs to nearly double and/or you have to cut on expenses (i.e. let certain teachers/staff go). Simple economics. Rita I believe has a current Freshman class of around 155 this year so overall it does allow Rita to forge its niche and stay in that 600 range.
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Good win for BR. Beating an undefeated team is always big, beating that other school down the street makes even that much better.

Tuition will not be have go up if the ability to pay standards also go up with the academic standards. The school operates in the black now but the goal is to have a higher rate of four year retention. Former teacher and alum told me he understands the process but is very unhappy how it was handled. I have a nephew who tested so I have been concerned how it plays out. There are six kids in his traveling baseball team from Orland that tested. If they all don't get in he will be at Rita but the other five may all go to Sandburg and Andrew. It's sort of a package deal with them. I hope the people making the decision don't blow it. This could hurt the school for years if they do it wrong.
 
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Topiarydan1

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Athletics is such a double edged sword now. So many kids (and primarily their parents) feel they have to be ensured a spot on the team if they go there. Granted there was always some level of favoritism in the process, but I believe the travel teams have F'd up the objectivity and fairness of the tryout process - regardless of whether its a Catholic school or a public one (happens there bigtime too). I hope your nephew goes to Rita and gets a solid-fair shot to get on the baseball team. Package deals for kids (regardless of the school) seems like the parents playing a bush-league game
 
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Just to clarify package deal is they want to all go to school together. Their parents know four years from now they all will not be playing baseball. Although they all could be. Unusually level headed parents. Dads played football at PC SR and Sandburg.

What I see is three wide receivers and three d-backs. But that's me. And actually it's my grand nephew. He's a legacy and an honor student. I'm not worried about him. They will take the train to 79 and Kedzie and a mini bus picks them up. Pretty simple for them. Like I said I hope the new priest doesn't screw this up or he may poison the well out here.
 
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CCLGUY1964 said:
The East Coast Augustinian High School is $17,300. More like the demographics of a LA (Wilmette).
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Whatever you do, don't let them know that Malvern Prep's tuition is $31,500.

Such is the concern for the poor among Catholic school boards, that they seek to make us all one.
 
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SOUTHSIDECFD

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Dean how do explain MC's poor numbers? Or was it just a fluke year? 0-4 in the blue or the transfers out. Had I been a betting man going into last week I would say SR 206 MC 246.
 
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SOUTHSIDECFD said:
Dean how do explain MC's poor numbers? Or was it just a fluke year? 0-4 in the blue or the transfers out. Had I been a betting man going into last week I would say SR 206 MC 246.
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They got 206, with nearly 30 more testing this Saturday, so I don't think it's that low...it's not like they tested 150....they tested 12 less then last year...I don't think it had anything to do with football, they finished 8-5, and beat SR by 30 and BR in prep bowl...Freshman and Sophs went 7-2. How do you explain SR huge turnout after going 5-6 on Varsity and 2-7 on Freshman? And I'm asking that in a serious way, not in a smartass way. Like I stated before, it matters who shows in August.
 
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McCaravan said:
They got 206, with nearly 30 more testing this Saturday, so I don't think it's that low...it's not like they tested 150....they tested 12 less then last year...I don't think it had anything to do with football, they finished 8-5, and beat SR by 30 and BR in prep bowl...Freshman and Sophs went 7-2. How do you explain SR huge turnout after going 5-6 on Varsity and 2-7 on Freshman? And I'm asking that in a serious way, not in a smartass way. Like I stated before, it matters who shows in August.
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That's an impressive make up number. Did IMG have their entrance exam last week? Ok ok just kidding just kidding. Dean will laugh at that one. Rice has 7 or 8 now scheduled for make up. From a football stand point, heard Marist had a nice class. So another 8A runner-up could be in the making there.
 
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SOUTHSIDECFD

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McCaravan said:
They got 206, with nearly 30 more testing this Saturday, so I don't think it's that low...it's not like they tested 150....they tested 12 less then last year...I don't think it had anything to do with football, they finished 8-5, and beat SR by 30 and BR in prep bowl...Freshman and Sophs went 7-2. How do you explain SR huge turnout after going 5-6 on Varsity and 2-7 on Freshman? And I'm asking that in a serious way, not in a smartass way. Like I stated before, it matters who shows in August.
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That's why I asked if it was a fluke year?
 
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SOUTHSIDECFD said:
Let's see SR was going to go winless in the Blue. Wrong.
SR would be lucky to stay open. 246 take the test. Wrong.

All of those comments seem to be coming out of supporters of two schools. This recruiting war thing was getting out of hand. If this plays out maybe SR can make referrals to other schools.

But my personal opinion SR worked hard at this recruitment thing and got better than expected results. If they had a smaller number like 200 they could have had gotten down to 135-150 w/o anyone knowing. Since the SR alumni seem to be paying a lot of the bills do they get a seat at the table?

Which H.S.'s have the biggest endowments? I was told SR was only like 5th or 6th in fundraising our the CCL schools.
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Ignatius and Loyola must have the biggest endowments
 
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Great turnout for SJF to Rice.
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They get a nice enrollment each year. Wouldn't be far off to say 10% of Rice is from SJF.

Rita principal is from Barnabus and they should get a nice flow over there. Was surprised Romeo Burrell did not go to Rita but instead went to Morgan Park. I thought he was Barnabas kid.
 
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QUOTE="CCL08, post: 122379, member: 1948"]Johnson tested at SR[/QUOTE]
What the story on this kid?

MC and BR both got several kids from the Orland Park and Homer Glen area. If the kids all stayed home Sandburg would have a heck of a baseball team.
 
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