I certainly don't ask this question in a negative light...

[drt7891]

But has Steve R. Said anything wrong in regards to the investigation? I genuinely want to know because everything I can recall he has said has come to fruition. He has a killer source somewhere in this that is very close to what's been going on.

The second question was brought up last night in chat... Do you think Steve thought it would be as big and involved as it is now when he first started talking about this earlier in the year?

Is anyone genuinely surprised the CL has basically turned a blind eye to all this since it started? They basically have reported talking points and commented on a few articles, but that's about it.

 

[AlCoDog]

My question is, Yancy and Ben have come out calling him a liar, but have either stated what he has lied about specifically? I haven't seen it.

 

[tatedog]

Yancy and Ben have been lied to so frequently and blatantly by Ole Miss sources that they are probably just confused.

 

[drt7891]

This is exactly why I ask.

 

[Drebin]

The only thing I can think of that Steve has been wrong about is the big story that was supposed to break during media days. There was a relatively mild story that hit about a week before media days, but nothing beyond that.

He's been pretty on-point with most everything else.

 

[drt7891]

That's true... But even then, he called it "rumblings of a hit piece," I believe. Even then, that's more in regards to media response than the actual facts of the case.

 

[ShrubDog]

Steve has been accurate in my eyes. I have enjoyed his commentary on the subject and I do not think he thought it would turn into a spectacle like this. He leads on having more info than he is releasing because you never show your hand.

I missed chat again. Is that on certain nights or does DS pick random nights?

 

[tatedog]

I still think on a national level the importance of that piece is underrated. For people like us who have followed the case closely from the start, it didn't add much, but for the less initiated it was pretty damning.

 

[Drebin]

Yeah, I agree...but even after it came out, Steve said that he felt another one was coming.

 

[archdog]

The only thing I can think of that Steve has been wrong about is the big story that was supposed to break during media days. There was a relatively mild story that hit about a week before media days, but nothing beyond that.

He's been pretty on-point with most everything else.

Story was probably halted to wait for the next round of allegations and the comments made by the staff prior to those allegations. It's going to be gold.

 

[Xenomorph]

It's pretty obvious that story was coming but got put on the shelf... Evidence of that is when bears like Yancy started talking about "very positive developments" the day before Bucky took the stage at media days.

 

[philduckworth]

But has Steve R. Said anything wrong in regards to the investigation? I genuinely want to know because everything I can recall he has said has come to fruition. He has a killer source somewhere in this that is very close to what's been going on.

The second question was brought up last night in chat... Do you think Steve thought it would be as big and involved as it is now when he first started talking about this earlier in the year?

Is anyone genuinely surprised the CL has basically turned a blind eye to all this since it started? They basically have reported talking points and commented on a few articles, but that's about it.

I don't think Steve saw the potential 2nd LOA or at the very least, the addendum coming when he first started talking about it. No one could have predicted what happened on draft night.

The newspaper business is hurting and can't afford to lose subscribers. Steve has no allegiance to anyone so he is free to report on the OM stuff without fear of losing his job. He has tons of sources with all the players he has talked to thru the years and people give him info. Steve has become and investigative reporter and is the only one in the state willing to report the truth. Yancy and those guys can't risk getting cut off from the university.

 

[HD6]

Steve was reporting there would be an addendum well before the draft.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

Who knew our hero would come in the form of a long haired, tatted up 80's rocker. Keep on keeping on you beautiful creature....:bows

 

[coach66]

Didn't Steve suggest that "Exemplary Cooperation was a Myth" but it is in fact

helpful in the NCAA's eyes. I think they have hung their hat on that in trying to breakdown his credibility.

 

[Rockydawg]

Sorry Man.

nm

 

[121Josey]

I don't think Steve saw the potential 2nd LOA or at the very least, the addendum coming when he first started talking about it. No one could have predicted what happened on draft night.

The newspaper business is hurting and can't afford to lose subscribers. Steve has no allegiance to anyone so he is free to report on the OM stuff without fear of losing his job. He has tons of sources with all the players he has talked to thru the years and people give him info. Steve has become and investigative reporter and is the only one in the state willing to report the truth. Yancy and those guys can't risk getting cut off from the university.

You're wrong on all accounts, except that Freezus' sheep cannot afford to stray.

 

[philduckworth]

Steve was reporting there would be an addendum well before the draft.

Damn, impressive.

 

[mount lefroy]

helpful in the NCAA's eyes. I think they have hung their hat on that in trying to breakdown his credibility.

Chuck Roundsaville, right after the draft night fiasco said that OM was being described by the NCAA as giving 'exemplary cooperation' in an effort to deflect some of the bad press and make it look like the investigation had gone just the way they wanted it. Steve said something like "that's not even a thing" to which OM fans went crazy on twitter. The reason they knew Steve was wrong was where Roundsaville got that term: namely the way the NCAA described ULL's actions and why they got the MINIMUM punishment even though they'd been caught with Saunders in the ACT test scandal.

The most important thing to remember is that 'exemplary cooperation' only means something if the NCAA describes the school as having done it. It doesn't count if the school uses the term in the RESPONSE TO THE NOA to describe itself. Kind of like the term 'class' when you think about it.

NOTHING the NCAA has put out about Ole Miss has used that term.

 

[57stratdawg]

I noticed that too the other day. I think OM basically took that press release and changed the name on it.

They self imposed the same scholarship reduction over the same number of years, used that term, etc.

 

[Drebin]

I noticed that too the other day. I think OM basically took that press release and changed the name on it.

They self imposed the same scholarship reduction over the same number of years, used that term, etc.

What's funny is how they're killing Steve for being wrong about it being "a thing."

It's pure deflection. Do we really think the NCAA is going to cite "exemplary cooperation" when they haven't been able to get off their campus for 3 plus years? I mean, seriously, if we all set our biases aside and look at this on its face - the NCAA has been investigating these people for YEARS. They investigated Tunsil, did interviews, got info, and then learned of more info on draft night. Exemplary cooperation would've turned up all of this stuff in the first place. "But we didn't know about it..."; yeah, we all know how that's going to go over.

Steve says they are investigating stuff other than Tunsil now. Spirit Ben says there is nothing outside of the Tunsil stuff. Steve's track record is a lot more credible at this point.

 

[Shamoan]

better question, why do we, as a state, continue to put up with this crap considering the state looks like this:


ole miss is the vast minority state-wide outside of northern mississippi, so why do they continue to control the message through mediums like the clarion ledger?

 

[msstate7]

Perhaps reporting the biggest story of the offseason would help the CL gain subscribers

 

[drt7891]

Scandals sell papers. You are 100% right about that. Unbelievabable how passive they have been on this issue.

I used to not believe in conspiracy theories that "the CL was biased." Not anymore. If it were us, there would be daily front page articles about the investigation. Not with OM. Just McDonald's puff articles and asking unrelated players if they got paid.

 

[KeyserSoze1999]

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