I can't help but feel

[messageboardsuperhero]

Like there is much more meat on this bone. Freeze was in Tampa and called a phone number with a Detroit area code that just so happened to be a Tampa escort service... While he was on an important recruiting visit days leading up to NSD (mind you, Shae Patterson just happened to be a recruit in that area at the time). UM initially did not believe it to be true and shook it off as a misdial, backing their coach once again- but then "came to their senses" and started reviewing his other phone records when it became apparent this going public. Could Freeze be the sacrificial lamb for something else?

It seems like we're only getting half the story. Given the way they've handled this from the beginning, I thing we have a right to be skeptical. Some enterprising journalists or NCAA investigator might be able to connect the dots on this, if there are any...

 

[Shmuley]

Time to get phone records of the assistant coaches (I'm looking at your ***, Fat Matt Luke) and determine whether those records show calls to escort services. Connect those call dates with recruiting activities. Boy, they better hope there's not more to this.

 

[msstate7]

Those phone records will be scoured over. Please let freeze have arranged escorts for recruits. Next question would be who paid for them

 

[missouridawg]

Like there is much more meat on this bone. Freeze was in Tampa and called a phone number with a Detroit area code that just so happened to be a Tampa escort service... While he was on an important recruiting visit days leading up to NSD (mind you, Shae Patterson just happened to be a recruit in that area at the time). UM initially did not believe it to be true and shook it off as a misdial, backing their coach once again- but then "came to their senses" and started reviewing his other phone records when it became apparent this going public. Could Freeze be the sacrificial lamb for something else?

It seems like we're only getting half the story. Given the way they've handled this from the beginning, I thing we have a right to be skeptical. Some enterprising journalists or NCAA investigator might be able to connect the dots on this, if there are any...

Here is the conundrum Hugh is in.... were the hookers for Hugh? Marriage is over. We're the hookers for recruits? OM in even deeper high cotton with NCAA.

With Nutts attorney in possession of 5 years worth of phone records... Hugh is not going to sleep easy for quite some time. Nutt and his attorneys has Hugh and OM by the nuts. And all they had to do was publicly apologize to prevent this from happening. Humility is a simple concept that escapes so many in Oxfords.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Yup. The OM administration has not been 100% truthful in the past 5 years, why start now. Until Bjork is gone, they're still lieing.

 

[PBRME]

Freeze is taking one for the team. Those were personal and recruiting professionals he was calling. They're trying to stop it here before more digging is done and the **** really hits the fan with the NCAA.

 

[missouridawg]

Freeze is taking one for the team. Those were personal and recruiting professionals he was calling. They're trying to stop it here before more digging is done and the **** really hits the fan with the NCAA.

Its too late. 5 years of phone records are being combed through by Nutts attorneys now.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

Time to get phone records of the assistant coaches (I'm looking at your ***, Fat Matt Luke) and determine whether those records show calls to escort services. Connect those call dates with recruiting activities. Boy, they better hope there's not more to this.

Wouldn't that fall under RICO? Who paid for it? Fall under IRS? Buying sex for minors. Criminal. I think there's a lot of layers yetto be peeled back from this onion.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Yeah but Bjork already said that Freeze redacted "personal calls" before the records were produced. Not sure why he was allowed to redact any calls on records of a university phone...

 

[Chesusdog]

Dear sweet baby Jesus And Nutt's lawyers, please continue to leak all your findings.

 

[Shmuley]

Ethics Commission has been clear. Personal use, even on phone issued by political subdivision, is not public record. Therefore, can redact.

I love the fact that the stupid, horny, buck toothed bastard got busted by his failure to catch that one phone number. Be sure your sins will find you out, indeed!

 

[PBRME]

Its too late. 5 years of phone records are being combed through by Nutts attorneys now.

That just puts team Nutt in a higher bargaining position. The offering plates being passed to keep them from leaking anything else.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

The next upvote/downvote had better be One Call/That's All.

 

[BiscuitEater]

Yup. The OM administration has not been 100% truthful in the past 5 years, why start now. Until Bjork is gone, they're still lieing.

Kellenburger had a couple of good points; this being the best ..


"They’re (Ole Miss) going to have to go in front of the Committee on Infractions and, for the sake of the university, argue that former staffer Barney Farrar was a renegade, but the guy whose personal life was deceitful and a sham acted honorably professionally. Good luck with that."

 

[DocHolliday.sixpack]

I'd be much more concerned with Rosebowl combing through 5 years worth

Its too late. 5 years of phone records are being combed through by Nutts attorneys now.

of phone records if I'm a Bear fan. Go get em Steve.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Did not know they have considered that. At first glance, it would seem to me that it should be the other way around. But I guess if you are allowed to use your work phone for personal business (which everyone is now, since you don't pay per minute any more), then it makes sense to allow redaction of those.

 

[NTDawg]

Yeah but Bjork already said that Freeze redacted "personal calls" before the records were produced. Not sure why he was allowed to redact any calls on records of a university phone...

I have wondered the same thing. It is my understanding that it is all a public record. Additionally I have been told if you conduct public business on a private phone that its records are also fall under the public records act.

 

[maroonmadman]

Hugh's reputation as a man of honest upstanding decent moral character has gone down the *******. Now the NCAA can look at everything he has told them with a jaded eye. Furthermore they can cast said jaded eye upon the administration that it occurred under as they were so stead fast in their support for this sanctimonious SOB. I'm sure Hugh didn't go on all these recruiting trips alone. I wonder who else has turned a blind eye to his marital infractions?

And just to make it worse. How do we know for sure it was ladies of easy virtue he was calling? Maybe he was a Shep Smith kinda guy?

Thank you ole miss for a cool breeze in a hot humid summer.

 

[DerHntr]

The next upvote/downvote had better be One Call/That's All.

Funniest thing I've seen in the last 18 hours. That's sayin a lot. Bravo.

 

[BossDawg78]

I think there's more meat on the bone, too. However, dinner has been served and now everyone is gonna start diggin in.

(Sorry, had to)

 

[AssEndDawg]

Am much as I think Freeze looks like a meth'ed up beaver I have to think he could get laid without paying for it. I mean, he could even take some tail with him on a recruiting trip and call her an "assistant to the assistant recruiting coordinator" or something like that. I also find Ole Miss' wording suspicious. I mean, had no one ever said the word "escort" then what they said was fine but given that it was already out there then why not say, "he called other escorts" instead of saying "we discovered a concerning pattern of conduct"? Really makes you wonder if it isn't something else and Ole Miss is going to take this opportunity to sweep the whole thing under the rug and hide behind "personal phone calls". They will just deny access and argue, "we already told you what happened and dealt with it!"

 

[Dogariffic]

I believe Steve Robertson knows a heck of a lot more than even he has let on. This will go deep and wide!

 

[maroonmania]

Those phone records will be scoured over. Please let freeze have arranged escorts for recruits. Next question would be who paid for them

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[KeyserSoze1999]

Well, the "Flagship" folks are finally coming around...

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[maroonmania]

Those phone records will be scoured over. Please let freeze have arranged escorts for recruits. Next question would be who paid for them

Exactly, remember how we got put through the meat grinder because a couple of our players took a few recruits to the Pink Pony?

 

[Shamoan]

there is little doubt about that....

 

[patdog]

The "misdial" excuse didn't last long, but the fact they even tried it at all does how desperate they were to somehow still save Freeze's job. What are the odds that a wrong number dialed would be to an escort service? I would guess maybe 1 in 100,000. It's laughable they even tried it.

 

[G-Dawg]

Rabbi,

I have a question. So Freeze can redact "personal" calls from the list before handing it over. What's to prevent him from saying, "Escort Service...yeah, strike that one. It's personal." "Hookers.com, that's also personal." "Blow on the GO....also personal"... He could be "redacting" information that's NOT personal. Who polices this? Is there an authority standing next to him while he has a sharpie saying "and who is this one to?"

Sincerely,
Hillary Clinton

 

[patdog]

I'm still not sure they can redact anything. To my knowledge Steve didn't say he had redacted phone records, he said he had all of them. If they allow them to be redacted, that's a loophole a mile wide. Certainly if they're subpoenaed, they can't be redacted.

 

[bulldogbaja]

If Hugh arranged and paid for sex workers for minors, then I imagine he will do jail time.
He should.

 

[G-Dawg]

Pat Forde just said on SiriusXM's "The Playbook" that when he called Bjork and the school last FRI that THEY said they had gone through the other 39,000 or however many records and didn't see anything untoward. They also chalked it up to a "misdial". Only way off the hook now is for them to say they didn't see anything "the first time they looked" and only found it after they looked again or were given a tip.

 

[Dawg1976]

Steve said this morning....the best is yet to come.

 

[blacklistedbully]

Hugh's reputation as a man of honest upstanding decent moral character has gone down the *******. Now the NCAA can look at everything he has told them with a jaded eye. Furthermore they can cast said jaded eye upon the administration that it occurred under as they were so stead fast in their support for this sanctimonious SOB. I'm sure Hugh didn't go on all these recruiting trips alone. I wonder who else has turned a blind eye to his marital infractions?

And just to make it worse. How do we know for sure it was ladies of easy virtue he was calling? Maybe he was a Shep Smith kinda guy?

Thank you ole miss for a cool breeze in a hot humid summer.

No way it was for himself, IMO. That was for recruits.

 

[Drewbowski]

Exactly, remember how we got put through the meat grinder because a couple of our players took a few recruits to the Pink Pony?

I thought a recruit tweeted about the pony but never actually went.

 

[Shmuley]

The requester, if dissatisfied with the records that are produced (documents missing, questionable redactions, etc.) files a complaint with the Ethics Commission. The Ethics Commission undertakes a review of the documents that were produced, without redaction, and makes the call as to whether what was redacted is truly personal. If not personal, the Ethics Commission orders disclosure. If personal, the redactions stand. If the requester is still not satisfied after Ethics Commission review, he/she is able to file a petition in state court for review. This is the process.

 

[RocketDawg]

No way it was for himself, IMO. That was for recruits.

Bjork said last night something about Freeze hurting his family (or at least mentioned family) implying that the other evidence they had indicated a pattern of him using ladies of the evening. And he also emphaized that none of this impacted the NCAA investigation.

What if he was lying? What if Hugh really was setting up the "escorts" for the recruits? That would be a big NCAA violation, and also illegal, especially if they were under 18. Maybe Bjork was just trying to deflect, and in doing so further throwing Hugh's character under the proverbial bus, since it was already shattered?

 

[RocketDawg]

The "misdial" excuse didn't last long, but the fact they even tried it at all does how desperate they were to somehow still save Freeze's job. What are the odds that a wrong number dialed would be to an escort service? I would guess maybe 1 in 100,000. It's laughable they even tried it.

Odds would be much higher than that. Unless ... he had it in his contact list, was doing a redial, or was returning a call. The probability of pocket calling a new 10-digit number is nothing short of astronomical, and when combined with the call being to an escort service would be next to impossible. It would be pretty much the same odds as the old saying "give enough monkeys enough typewriters and they'd come up with the complete works of Shakespeare". In other words, approaching zero.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Seems to me when you're the AD and someone has to give you "tips" that your HC is frequently running hoes on top of everything else he's 17ed up you just may be the poster boy for LOIC. But that's just my take.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

The next upvote/downvote had better be One Call/That's All.

I imagine we'll see many of those signs every time the two teams play.