I am bored so....

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I am already drinking the KoolAid (somewhat diluted this year) and looking forward to next season. I looked at our schedule and at the roster we have coming back. So I thought I would venture a way, way, way too early prediction for this coming season.

Definite losses in my view: Oklahoma and Ohio State
Probable losses: Michigan and Wisconsin.
Probable wins (there are no definite wins for this team anymore): Illinois, Buffalo, Michigan State, Southeastern Louisiana,
Toss ups: Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota

Assuming we win all of our "probables" and that we split the toss ups that would put us at 6-6.
There are still so many variables and we do not even yet know if there will be fans in the stadiums in large numbers. If we lose AMart to injury we are down to Smothers. Yikes. And I doubt Martinez stays healthy the whole season. So depth at QB is probably going to cost us at some point. For that reason alone I think 6-6 is our ceiling.

On the other hand, if we catch some breaks this year, and AMart stays healthy, and a running back and receivers emerge, and our defense is improved, and our special teams don't lay turds, we just might have the talent to go 9-3 or 8-4. But I doubt all of those factors will line up.
 
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bshirt73

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My kind sir, it's AMart. Haha.....it's so easy to get them mixed up. I've done that too!
 

TampaBaySkers

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Sadly I think there are only three groups...definite losses, probable losses, and toss ups.

Now if we get TMart back then I really like our chances to make a bowl 😁.
 

WHCSC

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Seems reasonable so you'll probably get destroyed for your opinion.
 

Redscarlet

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SE Louisiana better be a definite win ..

It’s pretty apparent SF can’t keep losing to Wisconsin, Ioway and Minnesota...
 

TruHusker

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There are always qualifiers when talking about these Frost teams.

IF we can find a RB, IF we can find a WR, IF we can stop someone, IF we can keep guys healthy. When there are so many "if's" each year, they are bound to add up. It is one thing to have a questionable area but so many?

People want to be excited looking forward but they have been disappointed so much the last few years, it is difficult and for good reason. Eventually, they have to play above their expectations right?
 
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SE Louisiana better be a definite win ..

It’s pretty apparent SF can’t keep losing to Wisconsin, Ioway and Minnesota...
Probably right but who knows with any of our games these days? And I agree about Wisconsin and Iowa but I just can't predict those games as wins until we prove it. Since joining the B1G we have beaten Wisconsin once and only once. And that game required a comeback for the ages in a game played at night in Lincoln.
 

Redscarlet

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Probably right but who knows with any of our games these days? And I agree about Wisconsin and Iowa but I just can't predict those games as wins until we prove it. Since joining the B1G we have beaten Wisconsin once and only once. And that game required a comeback for the ages in a game played at night in Lincoln.

Jack Benny Riley should have won one of the games in 2015 or 2016 especially 2015 against Wisconsin..
 
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Jack Benny Riley should have won one of the games in 2015 or 2016 especially 2015 against Wisconsin..
Yep. But our defense couldn't get a damn stop when it really mattered allowing that last second field goal. That game killed me. Ha. But you are right, some of our games with them have been very close. Hopefully that will be the case this year.
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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I think more so than the Jimmys and Joes is the attitude the team plays with this fall. Nebraska had the talent to beat almost everyone they played the last three years IMHO. When they put their minds to it, like the first half against tOSU they played well. They would have a good win, then melt down the next week with mistakes and lack of focus. A lot of what we complain about as far as "play calling" is a couple guys taking the play off and it gets blown up. Nothing wrong with the play, just the execution. Without knowing whether Frost gets the inexplicable "mental" aspect of the team fixed, its hard to make a prediction. I'll put on my scarlet-colored glasses and predict the team is finally on the same page and we have more wins than losses next fall.
 

inthedeed

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my koolaid has been diluted so many times, under a bright white lite you can barely discern a red tinge. other than that we will have a decent defense, seems special teams is a doable upgrade and a miracle fix in the turnover department would bring smiles all around.
when does spring practice begin? can we get better than last year?
 
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JabroniBlvd

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I pull data and put it in a statistical win % at this time...

Illinois 54%
Buffalo 79%
@ Oklahoma 18%
@ Michigan St 55%
Northwestern 61%
Michigan 40%
@ Minnesota 50%
Purdue 56%
Ohio St 10%
SE LA 98%
@ Wisconsin 42%
Iowa 49%
 
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I think more so than the Jimmys and Joes is the attitude the team plays with this fall. Nebraska had the talent to beat almost everyone they played the last three years IMHO. When they put their minds to it, like the first half against tOSU they played well. They would have a good win, then melt down the next week with mistakes and lack of focus. A lot of what we complain about as far as "play calling" is a couple guys taking the play off and it gets blown up. Nothing wrong with the play, just the execution. Without knowing whether Frost gets the inexplicable "mental" aspect of the team fixed, its hard to make a prediction. I'll put on my scarlet-colored glasses and predict the team is finally on the same page and we have more wins than losses next fall.
Yep. You just nailed why it is so hard to predict this season. If Frost does not "fix" the same damn things he has been saying for three years that he will "fix, then we are in for a world of hurt. However, the talent is there for a solid season should those things get fixed. But I am splitting the difference and saying 6-6. How is that for fence sitting?
 
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I pull data and put it in a statistical win % at this time...

Illinois 54%
Buffalo 79%
@ Oklahoma 18%
@ Michigan St 55%
Northwestern 61%
Michigan 40%
@ Minnesota 50%
Purdue 56%
Ohio St 10%
SE LA 98%
@ Wisconsin 42%
Iowa 49%
So if those percentages hold we will be either 7-5 or 6-6. My thoughts too.
 

WHCSC

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I pull data and put it in a statistical win % at this time...

Illinois 54%
Buffalo 79%
@ Oklahoma 18%
@ Michigan St 55%
Northwestern 61%
Michigan 40%
@ Minnesota 50%
Purdue 56%
Ohio St 10%
SE LA 98%
@ Wisconsin 42%
Iowa 49%
Agree but I have Michigan State at 54%
 

JabroniBlvd

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So if those percentages hold we will be either 7-5 or 6-6. My thoughts too.

Yeah I would say so right now. Like you mentioned there are many toss up games. Ohio St has been proven to be the only team that we cannot beat, but even they will take a slight step back imo but still be way ahead of us. Northwestern literally lost their entire team and we get them at home - should be a win. The biggest game by far is Illinois...cannot start 0-1 in conference to a division opponent.
 

phoenix4nu

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I am already drinking the KoolAid (somewhat diluted this year) and looking forward to next season. I looked at our schedule and at the roster we have coming back. So I thought I would venture a way, way, way too early prediction for this coming season.

Definite losses in my view: Oklahoma and Ohio State
Probable losses: Michigan and Wisconsin.
Probable wins (there are no definite wins for this team anymore): Illinois, Buffalo, Michigan State, Southeastern Louisiana,
Toss ups: Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota

Assuming we win all of our "probables" and that we split the toss ups that would put us at 6-6.
There are still so many variables and we do not even yet know if there will be fans in the stadiums in large numbers. If we lose TMart to injury we are down to Smothers. Yikes. And I doubt Martinez stays healthy the whole season. So depth at QB is probably going to cost us at some point. For that reason alone I think 6-6 is our ceiling.

On the other hand, if we catch some breaks this year, and AMart stays healthy, and a running back and receivers emerge, and our defense is improved, and our special teams don't lay turds, we just might have the talent to go 9-3 or 8-4. But I doubt all of those factors will line up.
If Martinez improves his play (especially cutting down his turnovers) or special teams play improves, we should be able to get to .500 and a bowl game. If both happen, there's no reason why we shouldn't compete for the West.
 

99_BoothBalloons

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I pull data and put it in a statistical win % at this time...

Illinois 54%
Buffalo 79%
@ Oklahoma 18%
@ Michigan St 55%
Northwestern 61%
Michigan 40%
@ Minnesota 50%
Purdue 56%
Ohio St 10%
SE LA 98%
@ Wisconsin 42%
Iowa 49%
I think all the road games are overestimating Nebraska here.

Oklahoma's QB came on late in the year and is the preseason Heisman favorite. I think our odds of beating OSU at home with a new QB are definitely better than OU on the road. Should be single digits.

I know MSU was pretty bad last year, but so were we. I wouldn't consider us favorites at this point in East Lansing.

Minnesota has embarrassed us two years straight. No way we can call that a 50/50 game at their place.

I'd be hesitant to give us 42% in Lincoln against Wisconsin. That's way too high for a game in Madison.

I think the home estimates are pretty accurate.
 

FargoNDHusker

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I am already drinking the KoolAid (somewhat diluted this year) and looking forward to next season. I looked at our schedule and at the roster we have coming back. So I thought I would venture a way, way, way too early prediction for this coming season.

Definite losses in my view: Oklahoma and Ohio State
Probable losses: Michigan and Wisconsin.
Probable wins (there are no definite wins for this team anymore): Illinois, Buffalo, Michigan State, Southeastern Louisiana,
Toss ups: Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota

Assuming we win all of our "probables" and that we split the toss ups that would put us at 6-6.
There are still so many variables and we do not even yet know if there will be fans in the stadiums in large numbers. If we lose TMart to injury we are down to Smothers. Yikes. And I doubt Martinez stays healthy the whole season. So depth at QB is probably going to cost us at some point. For that reason alone I think 6-6 is our ceiling.

On the other hand, if we catch some breaks this year, and AMart stays healthy, and a running back and receivers emerge, and our defense is improved, and our special teams don't lay turds, we just might have the talent to go 9-3 or 8-4. But I doubt all of those factors will line up.
I'm looking forward to next season, I also think the upside for this team is high. My pessimistic side still see's 5-7 with the same mistakes cropping up and costing them winnable games. This team seemed to get pretty high on themselves following wins over Penn St and Purdue which were awful teams and followed those up with two inexcusable losses so I worry about the headspace of this team if things are going well. I'd need to see the turnovers and penalties severely cut down as well which I fear those are just going to happen with this team.

Talent is there on offense to turn things around it just needs to develop and get right which is something were yet to see, the defense was good last year and should only improve. They need a better pass rush and to create more takeaways but they kept us in most every game last year. 7-5 or 8-4 are very obtainable, it's just time to actually show the progress instead of say it. 6-6 or lower in my mind makes Frost a dead man walking in year 5.
 

GeorgeFlippin

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I am already drinking the KoolAid (somewhat diluted this year) and looking forward to next season. I looked at our schedule and at the roster we have coming back. So I thought I would venture a way, way, way too early prediction for this coming season.

Definite losses in my view: Oklahoma and Ohio State
Probable losses: Michigan and Wisconsin.
Probable wins (there are no definite wins for this team anymore): Illinois, Buffalo, Michigan State, Southeastern Louisiana,
Toss ups: Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota

Assuming we win all of our "probables" and that we split the toss ups that would put us at 6-6.
There are still so many variables and we do not even yet know if there will be fans in the stadiums in large numbers. If we lose TMart to injury we are down to Smothers. Yikes. And I doubt Martinez stays healthy the whole season. So depth at QB is probably going to cost us at some point. For that reason alone I think 6-6 is our ceiling.

On the other hand, if we catch some breaks this year, and AMart stays healthy, and a running back and receivers emerge, and our defense is improved, and our special teams don't lay turds, we just might have the talent to go 9-3 or 8-4. But I doubt all of those factors will line up.
 
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I am already drinking the KoolAid (somewhat diluted this year) and looking forward to next season. I looked at our schedule and at the roster we have coming back. So I thought I would venture a way, way, way too early prediction for this coming season.

Definite losses in my view: Oklahoma and Ohio State
Probable losses: Michigan and Wisconsin.
Probable wins (there are no definite wins for this team anymore): Illinois, Buffalo, Michigan State, Southeastern Louisiana,
Toss ups: Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota

Assuming we win all of our "probables" and that we split the toss ups that would put us at 6-6.
There are still so many variables and we do not even yet know if there will be fans in the stadiums in large numbers. If we lose TMart to injury we are down to Smothers. Yikes. And I doubt Martinez stays healthy the whole season. So depth at QB is probably going to cost us at some point. For that reason alone I think 6-6 is our ceiling.

On the other hand, if we catch some breaks this year, and AMart stays healthy, and a running back and receivers emerge, and our defense is improved, and our special teams don't lay turds, we just might have the talent to go 9-3 or 8-4. But I doubt all of those factors will line up.

Every year this time I fall for it, drink the Kool Aid too, spiked even. THen after the 1st game or 2 I'm on these boards complaining about the terrible coaching and getting banneed. Rinse, repeat, for the last 20 years.

The bottom line for Frost is that no one else in the BIG does less with more than Frost, and no one in the BIG does more with less than Fitzgerald. Coaching the talent on Nebraska roster has been terrible. Very inefficient designed scoring offense, and the D huge mental mistakes, rinse repeat.
 
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Yes, I fixed my mistake. I think people knew who I meant. Lol. So what do you think of my predictions?

TMart or AMart - it almost doesn't matter. The years of disappointing results and wait-till-next year themes are starting to blur together. The last two times I thought the program was moving in the right direction was following Pelini's 2009 season, and when Frost was first hired. My primary hope for 2021 is to be surprised in a positive manner for a change.
 
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Huskerz99

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AMagic will lead us for to 7 wins in his first senior season and 8 wins in his 2nd senior season.
 

Huskerz99

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Every year this time I fall for it, drink the Kool Aid too, spiked even. THen after the 1st game or 2 I'm on these boards complaining about the terrible coaching and getting banneed. Rinse, repeat, for the last 20 years.

The bottom line for Frost is that no one else in the BIG does less with more than Frost, and no one in the BIG does more with less than Fitzgerald. Coaching the talent on Nebraska roster has been terrible. Very inefficient designed scoring offense, and the D huge mental mistakes, rinse repeat.
This year is different. Scott got rid of some guys to change the culture. Kade was a captain but frost knew the mustaches wouldn’t work so he got rid of him. Wandale was the face of the program but he really didn’t do much so frost asked him to leave so he could change the offense. Luke was the future of the program but frost wanted him to be receiver so he left.
 

Huskerz99

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That is a valid question.
Even if we wait until after 5 years as Moos asks to evaluate the program I find it hard to believe Frost will have an above .500 win percentage. And let’s say he does get his win percentage above that is that acceptable after 5 years? Even with an 8-4 this year and an 8-4 in 2022 that’s a .500 win percentage. So we paid a coach 25
Million for that?
 

JohnRossEwing

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OU and OSU are good/great

The rest of the teams beat NU because NU sucks, not because those teams are good.

Once NU stops sucking those lame losses will stop.

We used to laugh at how lame Iowa was...They are still lame, the only difference is NU sucks. Iowa is the same team that we all laughed about 10 years ago, same with Northwestern and PU.
 
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After 4 years is that good enough to earn year 5?
Probably. Yes. Frost isn’t going anywhere so long as Mr. Moos is in charge. And with Covid budget cuts, and new facilities being built I don’t think Moos is going anywhere either.
However, if we have another losing season next year I think the University will have some pressure to fire Frost.
 

Husker Hambone

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Probably. Yes. Frost isn’t going anywhere so long as Mr. Moos is in charge. And with Covid budget cuts, and new facilities being built I don’t think Moos is going anywhere either.
However, if we have another losing season next year I think the University will have some pressure to fire Frost.
They already have pressure.
 
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With as bad as Michigan was this last year, how are they are probable loss and not a toss up?


What percentages fall into what categories?
 
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I am already drinking the KoolAid (somewhat diluted this year) and looking forward to next season. I looked at our schedule and at the roster we have coming back. So I thought I would venture a way, way, way too early prediction for this coming season.

Definite losses in my view: Oklahoma and Ohio State
Probable losses: Michigan and Wisconsin.
Probable wins (there are no definite wins for this team anymore): Illinois, Buffalo, Michigan State, Southeastern Louisiana,
Toss ups: Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota

Assuming we win all of our "probables" and that we split the toss ups that would put us at 6-6.
There are still so many variables and we do not even yet know if there will be fans in the stadiums in large numbers. If we lose AMart to injury we are down to Smothers. Yikes. And I doubt Martinez stays healthy the whole season. So depth at QB is probably going to cost us at some point. For that reason alone I think 6-6 is our ceiling.

On the other hand, if we catch some breaks this year, and AMart stays healthy, and a running back and receivers emerge, and our defense is improved, and our special teams don't lay turds, we just might have the talent to go 9-3 or 8-4. But I doubt all of those factors will line up.
If the Offense and Special Teams actually show up this year then I agree.

If they don’t, then Southeastern Louisiana is a probable win (maybe) and the rest guaranteed losses. SF will definitely be on the clock.
 
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With as bad as Michigan was this last year, how are they are probable loss and not a toss up?


What percentages fall into what categories?
Because Michigan has more raw talent than we do and lately we have made a habit of making bad teams look good (see Illinois game this year.). In other words ... we never pull off any upsets anymore. We never punch above our weight class and often punch down to a lower weight class. We have not had a really "special" win where we outplayed a team with superior talent and won in a long, long, long time.