I-65 (MM)

GhostOfJackie

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After that game I don't even want to look at our baseball team for the remainder of the day. So let's change the subject to something I think is extremely important.

Where do we go with Initiative 65 from here? After talking with my representative (who is for applying i-65 directly into Mississippi Law), he seems to think that there will not be enough republican reps to pass legislation worded exactly as 65 was worded. This is extremely disturbing to me, and it has nothing to do with marijuana or the supposed benefits. The fact that our elected officials are able to take something as intentional as a ballot initiative that was passed overwhelmingly, and pass their own watered down ******** version of it. This type of power grab should disturb every citizen of Mississippi, and it shouldn't matter what your opinion is on the topic at hand.

As much as I hate it, the Supreme Court actually made the right decision as to what was presented to them for a ruling. We should not blame them, the blame should be squarely on the Legislators who FAILED to update the ballot initiative wording in the Mississippi code after we lost a district. But that's all water under the bridge. We have to demand that Tate Reeves call a special session.

Are Mississippians going to stand up and demand that their Legislators get their *** back to Jackson immediately to fix this? Even Chris McDaniel thinks it should be passed immediately and exactly as worded because it's what the people voted on. As much as I disagree with him, at least he has the balls to stand up.
 

Shmuley

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No 17n way the legislature doesn't 17 with the revenue controls. It always comes down to $. Always. Also, there is no 17n way the legislature leaves the local zoning controls/local regulatory authority as they are in I-65. That right there was Queen Mary's #1 reason for attacking.
 

GhostOfJackie

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No 17n way the legislature doesn't 17 with the revenue controls. It always comes down to $. Always. Also, there is no 17n way the legislature leaves the local zoning controls/local regulatory authority as they are in I-65. That right there was Queen Mary's #1 reason for attacking.

No doubt. I just don't see how (in this case) we aren't screaming from the rooftops since it was a ballot initiative and the wording was extremely important. It seems like that's a line they wouldn't want to cross, but I'm likely to be wrong. I actually think there should have been a way for local municipalities to opt out of this, and that was very fair to not force a community who doesn't want it.

And it this "Mayor Mary" character not going to pay a heavy political price for this?
 
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PBRME

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One thing I’ve learned is that Kevin Blackwell will not be getting my vote. I’m seeing a lot people feeling the same way.

I hope the people of Madison do the right thing and oust Queen Mary.
 

Shmuley

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Mayor Mary will die in office, if that's what she chooses. Untouchable. Now, if she ran for anything else, including county-wide in MadCo, she would get *****-slapped as badly as she did when running for statewide.
 

Russ Wheeler

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One thing I’ve learned is that Kevin Blackwell will not be getting my vote. I’m seeing a lot people feeling the same way.

I hope the people of Madison do the right thing and oust Queen Mary.
She's great for Madison. Why mess up what's working?

I obviously disagree with here on I-65, but that's a separate issue.
 

GhostOfJackie

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She's great for Madison. Why mess up what's working?

I obviously disagree with here on I-65, but that's a separate issue.

That’s fine, but can you at least agree that if a voter led ballot initiative was passed by an overwhelming majority of voters, and then struck down because of some technicality in the wording of the process (not the initiative itself), that our elected officials should be tasked with making sure that particular initiative moved forward as written?
 

Duke Humphrey

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Well, since you asked….

After that game I don't even want to look at our baseball team for the remainder of the day. So let's change the subject to something I think is extremely important.

Where do we go with Initiative 65 from here? After talking with my representative (who is for applying i-65 directly into Mississippi Law), he seems to think that there will not be enough republican reps to pass legislation worded exactly as 65 was worded. This is extremely disturbing to me, and it has nothing to do with marijuana or the supposed benefits. The fact that our elected officials are able to take something as intentional as a ballot initiative that was passed overwhelmingly, and pass their own watered down ******** version of it. This type of power grab should disturb every citizen of Mississippi, and it shouldn't matter what your opinion is on the topic at hand.

As much as I hate it, the Supreme Court actually made the right decision as to what was presented to them for a ruling. We should not blame them, the blame should be squarely on the Legislators who FAILED to update the ballot initiative wording in the Mississippi code after we lost a district. But that's all water under the bridge. We have to demand that Tate Reeves call a special session.

Are Mississippians going to stand up and demand that their Legislators get their *** back to Jackson immediately to fix this? Even Chris McDaniel thinks it should be passed immediately and exactly as worded because it's what the people voted on. As much as I disagree with him, at least he has the balls to stand up.

My guess is that 75 percent (conservative estimate) of those that voted for 65 had no clue of the details in went into, primarily tax rate, revenue control, zoning, etc. They voted “aye” because they wanted med marijuana.

Of that group, probably about 60 percent (again conservative) probably agree it should be taxed at a higher rate, Legislature should have control of the revenue, local communities have zoning capabilities, or they just don’t care about those semantics.
 

patdog

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Me too. I though he was going to say after that game 17 it, I’m going to the beach.
 

patdog

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You can “guess” all you want. But the fact is, an overwhelming majority voted for medical marijuana. If the legislature doesn’t get something very similar passed, there’s gonna be a lot of legislators fighting an uphill battle to get re-elected.
 

Duke Humphrey

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Oh, they will have a program and the majority of those that voted for 65 will think they have done their job, even if it is different when it comes to zoning capabilities and where the revenue goes.
 

Dawgtruc

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After that game I don't even want to look at our baseball team for the remainder of the day. So let's change the subject to something I think is extremely important.

Where do we go with Initiative 65 from here? After talking with my representative (who is for applying i-65 directly into Mississippi Law), he seems to think that there will not be enough republican reps to pass legislation worded exactly as 65 was worded. This is extremely disturbing to me, and it has nothing to do with marijuana or the supposed benefits. The fact that our elected officials are able to take something as intentional as a ballot initiative that was passed overwhelmingly, and pass their own watered down ******** version of it. This type of power grab should disturb every citizen of Mississippi, and it shouldn't matter what your opinion is on the topic at hand.

As much as I hate it, the Supreme Court actually made the right decision as to what was presented to them for a ruling. We should not blame them, the blame should be squarely on the Legislators who FAILED to update the ballot initiative wording in the Mississippi code after we lost a district. But that's all water under the bridge. We have to demand that Tate Reeves call a special session.

Are Mississippians going to stand up and demand that their Legislators get their *** back to Jackson immediately to fix this? Even Chris McDaniel thinks it should be passed immediately and exactly as worded because it's what the people voted on. As much as I disagree with him, at least he has the balls to stand up.

All I know is I'm gonna retire in 5 yrs or so, and I want to, by that time, be able to go buy some high quality stuff and get blitzed.
 

Cooterpoot

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I've got a trip to CO next week. Mary and our MS politicians can suck it! Or should I say gum it? These same old white *** guys claiming to be conservative but wanting to ban the voice of the people will die in office because of the illiterate fools & commies voting for them.
 
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SheltonChoked

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My guess is that 75 percent (conservative estimate) of those that voted for 65 had no clue of the details in went into, primarily tax rate, revenue control, zoning, etc. They voted “aye” because they wanted med marijuana.

Of that group, probably about 60 percent (again conservative) probably agree it should be taxed at a higher rate, Legislature should have control of the revenue, local communities have zoning capabilities, or they just don’t care about those semantics.


Add in possible local approval of locations (like Colorado does). And I'd also bet on a multi tier tax system, (tax on growers, distribution, and retail)
 

$altyDawg

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If the legislature doesn’t get something very similar passed, there’s gonna be a lot of legislators fighting an uphill battle to get re-elected.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but I'll be very surprised if any of these jackasses don't go right back into office. I have no dog in the fight over I65, and from the outside looking in, I think it's shameful that they've gone the route they have to override it. I'm disgusted by their actions, but certainly not surprised. I'll only be surprised when voters actually start replacing these people that call themselves our "representatives".
 

PBRME

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She's great for Madison. Why mess up what's working?

I obviously disagree with here on I-65, but that's a separate issue.

The problem I have with it is she, without any shadow of a doubt, has shown she doesn’t care what the voters want if she doesn’t like it.

I have a problem with any politician that can see over 70% of the population is in favor of something , and still fight it. Aren’t they elected to represent us and not their interests?
 

maroonmadman

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No 17n way the legislature doesn't 17 with the revenue controls. It always comes down to $. Always. Also, there is no 17n way the legislature leaves the local zoning controls/local regulatory authority as they are in I-65. That right there was Queen Mary's #1 reason for attacking.

This is the answer. Control of the money and it wasn't the legislature. The legislators needed some one who could challenge the result and weather the political fallout. Mary was the perfect foil for this as she is politically stable, as long as she stays in the City of Madison as Schmuley say. It all boiled down to the money. Now stand by and watch which marijuana distributors start pumping bucks onto certain legislators campaign funds and you will find those responsible for this. Now the legislature will control the money and the real graft will begin.

It would not surprise me one bit to find out that certain legislative power brokers looked the other way, on purpose, when we lost a congressional district. That way they had the power to challenge, and overturn, voter initiatives. This initiative is small peanuts but imagine if the voters put forth say a campaign funds initiative to keep legislators from using campaign funds as their personal piggy banks. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the legislature to change the voter initiative law any time soon.
 

GhostOfJackie

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This is the answer. Control of the money and it wasn't the legislature. The legislators needed some one who could challenge the result and weather the political fallout. Mary was the perfect foil for this as she is politically stable, as long as she stays in the City of Madison as Schmuley say. It all boiled down to the money. Now stand by and watch which marijuana distributors start pumping bucks onto certain legislators campaign funds and you will find those responsible for this. Now the legislature will control the money and the real graft will begin.

It would not surprise me one bit to find out that certain legislative power brokers looked the other way, on purpose, when we lost a congressional district. That way they had the power to challenge, and overturn, voter initiatives. This initiative is small peanuts but imagine if the voters put forth say a campaign funds initiative to keep legislators from using campaign funds as their personal piggy banks. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the legislature to change the voter initiative law any time soon.

THIS IS 100%^^^^

It seems like they purposely ignored the wording, knowing in the back of their minds that sooner or later the voters would come up with an initiative they didn't like or didn't approve of. They were saving this Supreme Court challenge for a time when they really needed it to take control of something they didn't like. There was no secret that the #MSLEG did not like I-65 as a whole.

They pulled out their "Mayor Mary Card" that has been in their back pocket all along. This is MS Politics at it's finest, and it should make every one of you mad to no end, because this could have happened to something else that you support. Or something else you worked hard to get signatures for. It's ******* terrible for the State. Both Parties (but we all know the party I support is really to blame for this one) Shame.
 

dorndawg

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The problem I have with it is she, without any shadow of a doubt, has shown she doesn’t care what the voters want if she doesn’t like it.

I have a problem with any politician that can see over 70% of the population is in favor of something , and still fight it. Aren’t they elected to represent us and not their interests?

 

Shmuley

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At the moment we have no viable voter initiative process. Assuming the legislature moves to correct the situation, which they have very little incentive to do, it will erect significantly more impediments to an already cumbersome, difficult process. Count on it.
 

maroonmadman

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At the moment we have no viable voter initiative process. Assuming the legislature moves to correct the situation, which they have very little incentive to do, it will erect significantly more impediments to an already cumbersome, difficult process. Count on it.

You can bet the farm on this.
 
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